How buff do I have to be to get hot chicks?

[marx77]

I'm not saying 9's - and no woman is a 10, unless she's dating me - but to get some reasonable high 7's and 8's?

I'm naturally a really skinny person, I can't help it. I'm mostly okay with it and I go like to work out a bit so I'm not scrawny, but I'm still very thin, I just have some muscle. I don't really like working out but I like the result.

What I'm asking is, how buff do I gotta be to get a good looking babe? Women don't have to do that; I'm not expecting to snag a super-athletic chick, since I'm not one myself, I'm more of the intellectualish type. I can be very charming, but when it comes to looks, I feel I'm at the disadvantage here.

So I'm asking, how important is working out and getting "big" to getting hot chicks? I will not date fatties or girls I don't attractive in the face, but is that so hard to get? I wonder.

I'm not ragging on bodybuilder types, that's cool, it's just not my thing. I don't want to be weak, but I also kind of resent having to become someone I'm not just to get chicks. Does that make sense?

Women don't have to work out, they just put on some make up, some nice clothes, do their hair and bam, guys flock to them like flies. Maybe they gotta watch what they eat, but it's like, I'm busting my ass to look good for these women and they don't have to do anything - I kind of think that's bullspit.

 

[TheCWord]

In my opinion you just gotta stay fit and wear nice, slim-fitting clothes that will accentuate whatever muscles that you do have.

You simply won't attract the girls who always go for the bodybuilder types. And that's fine. You could always bang one of those down the road if she sees you as a high-status type (I.e. You become a celebrity or, barring that, you have a well-paying, high position in an industry that the babe who goes for muscle-heads also works in as a junior).

 

[Iceberg]

Agree with CWord.

Think about it this way, marx. I'm sure in your town you see cute girls walking around with boyfriends all the time. Are those guys "buff"? Probably not. It's important to stay in shape. But you don't need to spend 7 days a week in the gym to get girls.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Depends on how short you are and how ugly your face is. Also how broke you are and your age.

Height, money, status, fame, facial features, etc. can trump muscles. Its about balance in the end.The less of one thing you have, the more you have to make up for it in another department.

I pull 7's and 8's pretty easy and I'm not buff. I actually do better than some of my buffer friends. But I'm not skinny or fat either. I'm in shape.. just not a meat head.

I have one friend who is shorter than me and more out of shape.. but he has a great face. He matches and even exceeds me sometimes.

 

[JoeMarron]

You can be skinny as fvck and still attract the hottest women as long as you have the attractive face to make up for your skinniness. Combine that with money and game and you'll be swimming in hot pvssy.

 

[Mr Wright]

Just look better than 80% of guys and thats not even that hard, there are so many fatties out there. I play rugby a few times a week and go to the gym for that and thats more than enough to get girls to approach me and say sh!t like "do you work out", if you have an angular face it helps because women love that and they always mention my jaw and cheekbones.

Depending on how old the girl is the younger ones want a guy who's nice but they can actually show off to their friends and they can say "oh hes hot because of XYZ" muscles make all that so much easier to achieve. I have lots of female friends and they are more shallow than me sometimes when we go out. Looks, money and status will get you hot girls, you actually dont need game.

 

[Jaylan]

As a former "skinny guy" who works out regularly and has added mass to my frame over the past 8 years, I can tell you from my experience that a certain level of buffness will NEVER appeal to ALL women.

In my opinion, there's NOTHING wrong whatsoever with using women as a motivator to hit the gym. But no matter how hard you try, no matter how muscular and/or ripped you get, you will NEVER reach that imagined perfect fit level that leads you to reel in the babe of your dreams.

But I will say that hitting the gym regularly and maintaining a healthy diet will definitely INCREASE your chances of attracting more women.

There will ALWAYS be certain women on this planet who WILL fvuck a guy based solely on his fit physique. You can lack money, status, etc. etc. But if you're exceptionally fit, certain women will be attracted. Just like there are women on this planet who will fvuck guys who have lots of money but are 5'4, balding, and wear 1" thick glasses.

So why not just hit the gym and make it part of your lifestyle? MORE fit is a good thing...just like MORE money. Being MORE fit, having MORE money, driving a MORE expensive car...these all appeal to the majority women to some degree.

And besides attracting hotter chicks, hitting the gym and eating right and just living clean makes us feel better, more confident.

Also, read this post...very entertaining read, if nothing else.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=60002

This. Hitting the gym just makes you more productive in many areas of life. With work, with women, on the field/court when playing weekend sports. You just feel great.

And true, certain girls will screw a guy on his physique alone. Heck Id say many girls get reeled in that way. I noticed an increase in female attention when I started working out and also when I grew out my hair. Definitely helps.

Plus leaning out and putting on muscle ends up helping your face too. As you lean out, usually your face will become my masculine and aesthetic. Depending on how you shed fat, you may lose some face fat and get that sexy jawline girls like.

To directly answer the OPs question, no you dont need to be really buff. Id say as long as you have a soccer player or swimmers build, girls will be wanting the body. Chicks seem to like that lean look with some muscle, but not too much buffness. Think Cristiano Ronaldo, Didier Drogba, or Michael Phelps.

 

[nismo-4]

Mucsles, money, Mercedes. They all help. Game is a small portion of this pie.

 

[floydb25]

You can be skinny as fvck and still attract the hottest women as long as you have the attractive face to make up for your skinniness. Combine that with money and game and you'll be swimming in hot pvssy.

So this. Most hot girls are skinny and short themselves, and seek the same in guys. Being in shape is good enough; not necessarily skinny OR athletic. Even a little flab isn't bad, and can even make you look better in certain areas... just like with women. Skinny girls don't usually have appealing body parts compared to those with a little extra. Even when they become skinnier, they usually lose it. I knew / dated hot girls who were a little extra, and they had great asses and solid builds. Then they tried to look thinner, and lost it. Now they look like any other skinny ***** with no body. And they weren't bad AT ALL before. Even preferred how they were.

It's mostly your face that determines what you'll get; how many, and how easily. IME, you attract what you are. If you have a "hot" face, decent build, nice ass - that's what you're going to attract. If you're skinny and "hot" with no build - likewise. As well as your personality, style, etc. Experienced it personally, AND witnessed it countless times through others.

Unfortunately, a lot of hot girls are shallow, vain, retarded, fake, crazy, immature, and obsessed with status, so you kind of have to be the same way yourself. They LOVE the bad boy players, and aren't all that quality, loyal, or mature themselves.

 

[SirFratserlot]

Girls here in my town only like beer muscle.

 

[Ronaldo7]

You are a complete idiot. You are doing this to get women? Wow. You should be doing this for yourself ONLY. You should be doing this to improve yourself ONLY. This sh1t is what's wrong with people in this day and age. They do things to impress others. In reality, they SHOULD ALREADY be doing these things to better themselves, progress, and achieve new goals.

You also said you don't like working out. Sacrifices always need to be made to achieve the things we want. OF COURSE you will like the results. They are your WORK after all. Life isn't easy and people, such as yourself, that just like the results, but shun the hard work, will never get anywhere.

If you are going to the gym for yourself, you will succeed. If you are doing this to impress some broad, have some self-respect and don't do it at all.

 

[Big Nuts]

Working out will raise your confidence and a natural by-product of confidence is women.

Big gut, jowls, poor style, ill-fitting clothes, smoke, stink, yellow teeth...no chance, may as well fap to death.

 

[DonGorgon]

buff does not matter at all they just have to like how you look in the face as long as you are not fat

 

[Chamber36]

OP you should work out as much as you can.

I started working out at least daily a month ago, because the weather was really nice. I go to the park and do stuff on the bars.

I do at least 20 minutes there, then some pull ups and push ups throughout the day.

I have certainly lost weight, I am on my way to 6 pack abs. I am gonna see if I can get a properly nice physique.

Here is an example of how I like to work out.

 

[OldGoat]

edit nvm

 

[floydb25]

I would put it dead last on the "looks" portion of attracting hot women. In total its prob 10% of attraction overall. The rest being 25% facial symmetry 15% height 35% game 5% status 10% money. That's for the average male deciding what to focus on, obviously if you are a billionaire you can ride that into lots of hotties. Same with MR Olympia riding body and status to run wild on groupie chicks.

So false, my man. It's all about looks, status, and money to these bishes. Because they consider themselves "high class" and seek the same. They're also lazy, spoiled, and entitled, and expect a free ride from everyone. If you talk to, or attract these bishes, it's all about hot this, and hot that. And if you fit the bill, all they talk about is wanting sex... in addition to complaining about jerks "using" them for sex (HA HA), wanting to marry a rich guy, asking you to get a better job and be more exciting, so you can be hot and rich and exciting, so they can get everything they want... they're too dumb to realize how shallow they are.

But definitely... if you have the looks - hot girls WILL approach you, and make it very easy. It's almost ALL looks. It's all they talk about, and the only reason they're interested in people. They become VERY infatuated and lust over good looking guys. ****, they even admit it. "He's hot, you're hot, because he's hot, hot hot hot".

 

[Jules_Winfield]

Here is my experience:

I've been in-shape, fat, and skinny. I've had girls attracted to me at every level, but being in-shape widened my appeal. What I discovered about being in shape is that each woman will find a certain part of your body appealing to them, and they'll respond to it. You don't need to be big, you just need to look good.

 

[escaleraroyal]

I have a big belly and I can get girls. I remember I used to work out and not have a belly and couldn't get girls. You go figure it out.

 

[marx77]

As a former "skinny guy" who works out regularly for the past 8 years, I can tell you that looking buff will NEVER appeal to ALL women.

In my opinion, there's NOTHING wrong whatsoever with using women as a motivator to hit the gym. But no matter how hard you try, no matter how muscular and/or ripped you get, you will NEVER reach that imagined perfect fit level that leads you to reel in the babe of your choice.

But I will say that hitting the gym regularly and maintaining a healthy diet will definitely INCREASE your chances of attracting more women.

There will ALWAYS be certain women on this planet who WILL fvuck a guy based solely on his fit physique. You can lack money, status, etc. etc. But if you're exceptionally fit, certain women will be attracted. Just like there are women on this planet who will fvuck guys with lots of money, even though they might be 5'4, bald, and wear 1" thick glasses.

So why not just hit the gym and make it part of your lifestyle? MORE fit is a good thing...just like MORE money. Being MORE fit, having MORE money, driving a MORE expensive car...these all appeal to the majority women to some degree.

And besides attracting hotter chicks, hitting the gym and eating right and just living clean makes us feel better, more confident.

Also, read this post...very entertaining read, if nothing else.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=60002

So, I'm basically fvucked then, going by that old post? Great.

I'm always going to be thin, and it kind of sucks that I have to completely change myself before having any chance with anyone that isn't fat or grotesque.

I've had girls show me interest many times in real life, at school, whatever, but since I lacked any confidence and feared approaching, I never did well for myself with most of them. That was when I was working out, but I was still thin (though it still happens from time to time now).

I have no confidence to even bother approaching random women IRL at this stage, unless it's in a club, so I guess I'm fvucked. Some of us are born winners in the genetic lottery, others have to settle for fat, ugly broads that we feel are beneath us. I'd rather just be alone. I can keep all my money and not waste it on some broad who bores me to tears.

 

[marx77]

So false, my man. It's all about looks, status, and money to these bishes. Because they consider themselves "high class" and seek the same. They're also lazy, spoiled, and entitled, and expect a free ride from everyone. If you talk to, or attract these bishes, it's all about hot this, and hot that. And if you fit the bill, all they talk about is wanting sex... in addition to complaining about jerks "using" them for sex (HA HA), wanting to marry a rich guy, asking you to get a better job and be more exciting, so you can be hot and rich and exciting, so they can get everything they want... they're too dumb to realize how shallow they are.

But definitely... if you have the looks - hot girls WILL approach you, and make it very easy. It's almost ALL looks. It's all they talk about, and the only reason they're interested in people. They become VERY infatuated and lust over good looking guys. ****, they even admit it. "He's hot, you're hot, because he's hot, hot hot hot".

Maybe.

I'm not just looking for a quick lay, but I understand enough that you still have to play the game to get a number, hookup or date that can potentially lead to an actual relationship at some point. I can't imagine being able to stand someone for more than an hour with an attitude like those women's, not matter how hot they are, or think they are.