How bad is sugar and artifial flavor?

[ThreeStorms]

Hi there,
for bulking, i mix half a litre of milk with two tablespoons of whey protein, one spoon of oil, and 500grams of yoghurt. Its around 1000 calories altogether.
New I'm a bit worried about the sugar in the yoghurt (I'm sure there is a lot of it) and the artificial flavors.
How bad is sugar really for you? I am not worried about getting fat right now, as I'm bulking, but can you get a serious illness, like diabetes? I drink this stuff every day now...
Maybe I could just use plain yoghurt with neutral flavor, but its just not very good tasting and has way less calories. Opinions?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Everything is bad in excess. In training and conditioning the less refined sugars you take in, the better. However, when taken in moderation with other nutrients (protein, complex carbs, fiber, etc) with appropriate exercise, you will have little to worry about.

 

[ThreeStorms]

Yeah, sounds sensible.
I will replace half of the yoghurt with a sugarless one, to be sure.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

Sugar is something you should just not eat, period. This includes staying away from most all fruit juices, candies, sugary snacks, etc.

Artificial flavorings/colorings are in the same boat. Avoid them.

And get plain yogurt, instead.

 

[ScrewIt]

what about whey protein with artificial sweetener? i know in the long run stuff like artificial sweeteners are bad for your body...like cancer causing and **** like that

cause i bought whey protein with it and found out it had it after i had started using it.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by WORKEROUTER
Sugar is something you should just not eat, period. This includes staying away from most all fruit juices, candies, sugary snacks, etc.

Artificial flavorings/colorings are in the same boat. Avoid them.

And get plain yogurt, instead.

Personally, I wouldn't cut it out completely. No, it doesn't have any real value but there are a couple of reasons to keep it(moderately) in your diet.

First, there's the problem with cravings. Most diets don't work just because people go to the extreme to remove something from their diet. Limited consumption will not greatly hurt your body unless you are training professionally for a body building or aerobic competition.

Second, it is way too difficult to cut sugar completely from your diet. It's the same with carbs and fat. Although sugar has less nutritional value than complex carbs and monosaturated fat, cutting it out completely will take an Herculean effort to do so completely.

It's a fact that most people will take the path of less resistance. It's much easier to find supplements with limited sugars than those without any. The same goes with food. Fruits by nature have some sugar, it may not be refined but again, withing moderation it's not too bad.

I say just monitor sugar intake as well as standard carbs, saturated fats and the like. Couple this with regular exercise and everything will work out fine.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

It's not that hard to cut sugar out of your diet. Also, one can use honey or stevia as a substitute (of course, in light moderation).

 

[Alpine]

If you're skinny, just shove it all down your neck. Now's not the time to start worrying about a bit of sugar and sweetner.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by WORKEROUTER
It's not that hard to cut sugar out of your diet. Also, one can use honey or stevia as a substitute (of course, in light moderation).

Name a brand of meal supplement that doesn't use sugar. Also, should fruit be stricken from your diet since they contain some form of sugar?

 

[fatkins]

Originally posted by WORKEROUTER
Sugar is something you should just not eat, period.

Your dumb

Please don't make me explain why this comment was so idiotic.

 

[Alpine]

Sorry, but I can't take anybody seriously on a dietry thread called Fatkins.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

Originally posted by fatkins
Your dumb

Please don't make me explain why this comment was so idiotic.

Why dont you instead name one nutritional benefit of consuming sugar.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Name a brand of meal supplement that doesn't use sugar. Also, should fruit be stricken from your diet since they contain some form of sugar?

When I say "sugar," I mainly mean it as an additive, not sugars naturally found in whole foods such as fruit.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by WORKEROUTER
When I say "sugar," I mainly mean it as an additive, not sugars naturally found in whole foods such as fruit.

Got'cha. Sometimes it helps giving an explanation when making statements that could be misconstrued as absolutes.

 

[Alpine]

I had a chocolate bar the other day

Did I drop down dead? Did I fvck. If you live on the stuff sure it's not good.

Oh, and honey is alright is it? Think you'll find most honey you buy today is basically sugar, and even decent stuff is fructose, it's a myth that honey offers any 'magical' properties.

Sugar may not offer nutrition, but it sure brightens up desert.

And anyone who disses sugar better be tea total otherwise they are a bloody hypocrite

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

suguar is only bad in large quantitys as it causes diabetes on the long run if eaten in large quantitys because it premotes insulin release and some how eventualy you stop releasing insulin, maube the gland is over worked.

i think an intresting point that few people know is that sugar is not fattening, it does not turn in to fat more so then say pasta for example.

The insulin which is realeased due to the increase in blood sugar levles, premotes fat to be stored.

health experts try and simply things for the public and tell them do not eat sugar, so its easy to see how people have started to think sugar is fattening in itself.

experts simplfy things all the time and it causes problems because they simplfy it so much that the worng message gets across.

for example, you know how lactic acid is apprntly the unwanted waste product of anairobic respiration, well that is complety wrong.

straying off topic now but basicly the lactic acid, which is not really lactic acid but actuly only lactate is not a waste product, it is infact created by the body and transported to the muslces as 1 of the substances that is vital for anerobic respiration. as you excersize more, more is created, and it is only when it is created faster then it can be processed that problems occur, but apprntly it does not cause fatigue or the burning sensation in your muslces which it is so infamous for alegidly causing. I do not no anymore aobut it then that, so if some one could fill me....

 

[WesCottII]

suguar is only bad in large quantitys as it causes diabetes on the long run if eaten in large quantitys because it premotes insulin release and some how eventualy you stop releasing insulin, maube the gland is over worked.

I really wish people wouldn't make statements like this without doing the proper research. Eating suger, per se, doesn't give you diabetes, as long as your pancreas can produce enough sugar to break it down, your pancreas doesn't shut down after a certain amout, however , becoming overwieght does increase your chances of becoming diabetic, not soley sugar,

 

[Lifeforce]

Originally posted by Alpine
If you're skinny, just shove it all down your neck. Now's not the time to start worrying about a bit of sugar and sweetner.

Don't, keep it somewhat clean!

i think an intresting point that few people know is that sugar is not fattening, it does not turn in to fat more so then say pasta for example.

The insulin which is realeased due to the increase in blood sugar levles, premotes fat to be stored.

Please read up... what do you think will **** up your insulin levels the most? Monosacharids as in pure saccarose or polysacharids like starch?

I really wish people wouldn't make statements like this without doing the proper research. Eating suger, per se, doesn't give you diabetes, as long as your pancreas can produce enough sugar to break it down, your pancreas doesn't shut down after a certain amout, however , becoming overwieght does increase your chances of becoming diabetic, not soley sugar,

By pancrea creating suger you mean insuline right? :]

Sugar is something you should just not eat, period. This includes staying away from most all fruit juices, candies, sugary snacks, etc.

Word!

 

[Double]

1.)the glykemic index of fructose is 22 and of fruit juice is 45.......and now tell me what is so bad for me as a skinny guy to eat/drink that stuff........yes it's not for cutting but why do ya think it is so bad for bulking up?

2.)i want u to tell me what happenes when i drink every hour a shake whey with water and 2litres of fruit juice. what's so bad about the insulin spike?? that the fat ,which I don't consume b/c it's only protein and carbs, would be stored?


hmm i am a bit angry b/c u mention fruit juice in one row with candys which is just a shame in my opinion

 

[WesCottII]

Originally posted by Lifeforce




By pancrea creating suger you mean insuline right? :]

oops. Typo, i stand corrected. By pancrea, i assume you mean pancreas? :]

By the way, i've meant to say this for ages, that post you added to Pook's fifteen lessons was awesome.