Hitting the EJECT button during the FIRST DATE. TEN Reasons.

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1. She's more than 20 minutes late. This is an insult after you've prepared and planned for this. YOURE there on time, right?
One time I just got up and walked out of the living room.

2. SHe is rough looking, hasnt put any effort into looking presentable.

3. There's another guy there she needs to "talk with"

4. She takes more than one cell phone call

5. She is pushy/obnoxious on any level

6. She starts spouting feminist nonsense while YOURE paying!

7. She flirts with another guy

8. She acts preoccupied or rude

9. She begins to order expensive stuff without being asked to

10. You discover her in a lie(she has kids, she has a boyfriend, etc.)
 

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I think a lot of those could be summed as simply 'not a good match'. I wouldn't necessarily walk out because it would reflect on me as rudeness, but I probably wouldn't make another date.
 

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I go along with the entire list with the exception of the first one. Being late isn't good, but if you can tell that she has put a lot into the meeting by dressing to the nines and she is extremely apologetic (especially if she initiates and reciprocates kino), I wouldn't hold it against her. But note that she isn't doing the other things in the list.
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
I go along with the entire list with the exception of the first one. Being late isn't good, but if you can tell that she has put a lot into the meeting by dressing to the nines and she is extremely apologetic (especially if she initiates and reciprocates kino), I wouldn't hold it against her. But note that she isn't doing the other things in the list.
Actually, you should still hold her tardiness against her and walk out. It doesn't matter how attractive she made herself look -- she was late, and she needs to realize that you won't tolerate that sort of behavior. Look at it this way, if you were 20 minutes late for a job interview, would you expect a future employer to ignore your tardiness simply because you spent a great deal of time making sure your tie was straight?
 

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A date is supposed to be fun, not feel like a job interview... I wouldn't hold it against her if she ran a little late because of being nervous, not knowing what to wear, etc. It would be a problem if she was habitually late, though.
 

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Originally posted by Jay Gatsby
Actually, you should still hold her tardiness against her and walk out. It doesn't matter how attractive she made herself look -- she was late, and she needs to realize that you won't tolerate that sort of behavior. Look at it this way, if you were 20 minutes late for a job interview, would you expect a future employer to ignore your tardiness simply because you spent a great deal of time making sure your tie was straight?
I've been told that I was a hard @ss in nexting a woman if she steps way out of bounds. But with an initial tardiness where she is genuinely sorry AND gives a lot of kino AND has a genuine high interest level, why possibly fvck things up by dogging her about her tardiness. She could be in a VERY giving mood to make things up.

True, I am qualifying her but if she is doing all that she can to make it up, why be a hard @ss?
 

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If it is the first date and she is not there on time, you will not know wheter if she was being dressed up nice or not, you would leave before that. The reason most women are late on first dates is to test the men she is dating. Something you probably know. If she has problem with putting on the right dress would you like that later in the relationship? Think about every party you are going to and she is changing dress 10 times. The only thing you can do to **** things up is to lessen your standards in the beginning, it will come back at you later when you are togheter.

Just like Jay says, if you went on a job interview(first date) would the employer employ you if you were late? The employer would think that that person is going to be late every morning (every date) while employed (in relationship).

You don't have to be a time fascist, just the two or three initial dates to see how she is like.
 

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Whatever, I just think someone who is such a nitpick about every little detail will end up sabotaging some potentially good relationships.
 

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It's not about nitpicking. If she's going to be domineering or a control freak - it's best to steer clear of these biatches. The late thing is also a big one too.. sometimes people show up late to show "power." If a girl is going to be plate.. I'd like her to give me a call right away and give me a more approximate time if her showing up.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I think you guys are a little too as*holish on this one. how about if she calls and lets you know she's going to be late? girls have a LOT to do when getting ready for a date. I think that guys should be a little less critical and more understanding.

but as for the other parts of the list, i agree, except for 2 and 3. Some girls aren't preoccupied with their looks, and you should appreciate not having a high-maintence girl who will expect you to buy her gifts, always pay, etc. Maybe she had a bad day too, and thats no reason to walk out on a date.

with 3, her best friend could be a guy. How is that threatening to you? they'll never sleep together, they'll never go out, etc. If she explained it, and it was an EX, then thats bad. but what if she needed to talk to her brother? i think guys just make too many assumptions too often.
 

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Originally posted by Slashco
I think a lot of those could be summed as simply 'not a good match'. I wouldn't necessarily walk out because it would reflect on me as rudeness, but I probably wouldn't make another date.
Why would it matter if she thinks it's rude, if she deserved it, AND you won't date her again?
 

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Originally posted by LuvMyArmyMan
I think you guys are a little too as*holish on this one. how about if she calls and lets you know she's going to be late? girls have a LOT to do when getting ready for a date. I think that guys should be a little less critical and more understanding.

but as for the other parts of the list, i agree, except for 2 and 3. Some girls aren't preoccupied with their looks, and you should appreciate not having a high-maintence girl who will expect you to buy her gifts, always pay, etc. Maybe she had a bad day too, and thats no reason to walk out on a date.

with 3, her best friend could be a guy. How is that threatening to you? they'll never sleep together, they'll never go out, etc. If she explained it, and it was an EX, then thats bad. but what if she needed to talk to her brother? i think guys just make too many assumptions too often.
For #3 - girls who have male best friend(s) (NOTE PLURAL) are Attention H0z - I find it more attractive to date girls that have several girlfriends rather than a bunch of guy friends. Understand this.. she has plenty of guys to give her attention.. it makes it EASIER for her to ignore you as a guy.

Even though she will choose you sexually/intimately over the other guys - it still doesn't matter because it explains her personality real easy. A girl that has a lot of guy friends and one or zero female friends are freaks. Guys who have dated these type of girls will AGREE with me.
 

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Originally posted by MetalFortress
Why would it matter if she thinks it's rude, if she deserved it, AND you won't date her again?
Because she might tell her friends. Word spreads about this stuff.
 

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Originally posted by DJ_Dork
For #3 - girls who have male best friend(s) (NOTE PLURAL) are Attention H0z - I find it more attractive to date girls that have several girlfriends rather than a bunch of guy friends. Understand this.. she has plenty of guys to give her attention.. it makes it EASIER for her to ignore you as a guy.

Even though she will choose you sexually/intimately over the other guys - it still doesn't matter because it explains her personality real easy. A girl that has a lot of guy friends and one or zero female friends are freaks. Guys who have dated these type of girls will AGREE with me.
This is spot on. I've never encountered anything in my experiences to disprove this. This is right along the lines of what I've seen.

And my reason for avoiding these women is exactly that - if I'm in her life, I should be the only guy. I shouldn't have to waste time competing with these 'friends' for her attention - that's just disrespect on her part. I don't want to have a relationship built on jealousy.
 

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I'm wondering, would you then also avoid having female friends, or is this a rule only for the woman?
 
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this applies to guys. and for you army whatever, you said you have lots of girlfriends so that's ok. Trust me folks, there is something wrong with a girl if all has 70%+ friends consisting of just guys.
 
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