hey friend, help me with your opinion on this please.

GREAT WHITE SHARK

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 19, 2001
Messages
682
Reaction score
1
Location
EVERYWHERE!!
Ill make it short.

I have been in a ltr for 2 /1/2 years. But after the first year all the dreams I had with her, of getting married, living together, etc.. falled apart, and she also kinda gave up on her dreams too. She use to try to show me ads on the news paper on real state "hey, look here with me, lets look for an apartment.." but I didnt want to.

The dreams I use to have (living together) were abandoned because of 2 things:
1, I noticed that I couldnt make enought money to pay for our expenses - I just started working on the sotck market, and it difficult to learn this
2, she had a graduation party and you had to buy the ticket, her mother gave her money to buy for all of us.. but she didnt buy mine!! Her excuse is that I wasnt interested, well, I really cant say, but I wanted to go.

After this those dreams went to trash, I felt cheated.

Our relationship was deterioring, once or twice a month this whole thing would come to top water and whe would cry, and we fighted, argued but in the end we were still together.

.... its hard to write everything down here....

Then she received a scollarship to study in Italy.

She went and stayed there the whole month of October. I could feel that she was going to do something, I just knew.

It is important for you to know to give me your opinion, that our relationship was kind of... hmn... superficial. I assume that I was ashamed of going out with her, I would get nervous and willing to get out of her house the moment she started talking about marriage and the apartment.. I didnt reply her questions.

But I always tried to understand her.

In the meanwhile I use to go out and flirt very lightly with other girls, I even went to this girls house, got in to her bed, she was there willing to do everything, but I remembered that I was in a ltr and did nothing, but stood up and left.

Ok, back to Italy.

She kissed another guy. Didnt have sex. Just kissed.

Then she came back yesterday.

I knew there was something in the air... I kept on asking her,, did you cheat on me?

She was afraid of my reaction.. bingo. She did it, my intuition was confirmed.

On the first minutes I tried to think (keep it cold and dont act on emotions - traders rule #102).

I left the place and went to a church on an university, its a place that calms me down - and its full of hot girls hehehehe - then I returned to where she was to talk more. I needed to know why she did that to me.

Because, I went to the edge, but never jumped. Understand?

Then on the talk we had she told me that did it because she wanted to get revenge on me, because I did not gave her an engagement ring, because I did not talk about our future, because I didnt treat her like my woman.

but I can tell you DJs. I always treated her good. I made severe efforts to be with her, (she lives in a near town , about 15 miles).

I always did whatever necessary to give her the best. I even ate her mothers food!!!!!! ehehheheeh

Now, I dont know what to do, I woke up today feeling very angry with her.

...oh yes, gotta write another important things...

On the middle of october all those wishes of living together were reborn and I started planning everything again, and when she was yet in Italy, I told her by the phone that we should live together, we should rent an apartment. I sent her a message on the phone "bring something for our apartment".. she didnt bring.

in this whole time, I were always lightly flirting with other girls, going out with my friends, but I never kissed another woman.

When we spoke about she giving me her money for me to work on the stock market with it I told her I would charge her 25% comission - I dont know, but this makes clear we were not a real couple....

What I realize is that:

1 Our ltr was in pieces before she traveled. Assuming this she did what she did because I was not the man I should be.. ? She did not have a man at all, so she went to find one. We were not a couple, it was just fake.

2 Even tough we werent REEEALLY together I did not actually cheated.

3 She told me that she kissed the guy because he proposed her marriage, but she knew it was just an ilusion, so why do it after all???


Jesus, Im confused... give me your opinion. What would you do in my situation?
 

Big Pappy

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 30, 2003
Messages
699
Reaction score
1
I wouldn't get myself in that situation in the first place.

That being said, what is it that you want out of this? Do you want the girl or not?
 

NewMan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 29, 2003
Messages
2,406
Reaction score
16
Location
Los Angeles
This was over a long time ago.

In general women love to talk about the future - with you - what your going to do, where your going to live, kids etc. etc. etc.

The fact that you would not reply to her - or talk about it with her - pushed her away. She saw you as a person she was going to build her future with and you pretty much dashed that for her.

She in on the way out - why would she stay? She wants a house, kids, marrage in her future - and you were not bringing that to her.

Don't expect your phone call - when she was in Italy - to make a difference. She was gone - you missed her - and then decided to late to do something about it.

Her feelings for you are more than likely dashed - and it would be an uphill battle for you to get them back. To much a## kissing and sucking up to her. It's not worth it.


Learn your lesson. Move on.

Don't lose your dignity.



***
that our relationship was kind of... hmn... superficial. I assume that I was ashamed of going out with her, I would get nervous and willing to get out of her house the moment she started talking about marriage and the apartment.. I didnt reply her questions.
***

This statement paints the correct picture.

If you were ashamed of going out with her - why would you stay with her?

Move on.
 

Gangster Of Love

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 27, 2002
Messages
2,578
Reaction score
66
Age
50
Location
Los Angeles
This one sounds like she was the one in control all along. Women loose respect eventually for a guy they can control. You going out of your way to do a lot of nice things for her only comes across as clinging on to her by buying her affection. You see, not only is your try to be too nice come across as weak, but she will learn to expect it, and will never reward you for it.

You need to get out and start re-building your pitching staff. Go out with other girls, talk to other women. Don't dwell on this one, or you will loose your confidence. Do other things to keep you busy. Most of the time the best thing to do is to do nothing. Let her reach for you if its necessary. Be prepared to walk away without her. Doesn't matter because you'll have other great things going on for you.
 

DoubleD

Don Juan
Joined
May 31, 2004
Messages
65
Reaction score
0
Well frankly your going to be ****ed up for a while.. and nothing you do will make you feel better cause your game is going to be really **** too. Now the postive news is that if you commit to being a DJ you won't have to go through all of that again.. cause you'll see signs earlier and you'll ditch quicker.. (well that and she'll stay attracted to you) also the ONLY solution to get over the weird and ****ty feelings is to move on.. but since you prolly been an AFC (yes having a go at you.. cause i do it too when i get into an LTR) you got no one to move on with...to take away the immediate pain.

I say get into your hobbies/work and try not to think about any of that ever again.. kill the thoughts as soon as they come into your head. Say out loud SHUT UP! Once you feel free of the thoughts start Boot Camp.. and then you will start seeing the light.

Now the double edge here is that once you get your DJ skills and your own life back she'll start seeing you as more attractive.. may wanna get back togteher.. just don't lose yourself again make a choice on your terms at that stage. But yeah man.. we all been there... there is no quick fix.. (well other than a new Hot woman in bed with you that night that makes you feel like a million dollars).
 

GREAT WHITE SHARK

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 19, 2001
Messages
682
Reaction score
1
Location
EVERYWHERE!!
thank you every reply.

When I remember what she did I feel really angry and say to myself "son of a bytch!" Then I remember how everything was, and what I did. (once we were in bed and I was having a sexy chat with a girl by the phone). Well, I was looking for something I wasnt getting with her!

Gonna experiment being with her. If it is to be, will be, if not. Move on.

Thanks fellows.
 

Soma

Banned
Joined
Jun 17, 2004
Messages
499
Reaction score
0
Location
Bay Area, California
Originally posted by GREAT WHITE SHARK
Ill make it short.
That wasn't short.
 

cave dweller

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 1, 2004
Messages
573
Reaction score
6
stock market?

shark,

What do you mean when you say you are learning to play the stock market?

Are you a day trader?

The reason I am asking is that I have played it for the last 10 years.

cave dweller
 
Joined
Nov 6, 2003
Messages
4,281
Reaction score
8
Location
Wisconsin. USA
She blames her so-called 'cheating' on you??? This is a typical hor response and reaction!!

Why would dude propose to marry this woman?? Is it because they have been seeing each other for an extended period without your knowledge??

She is not so innocent - why do you portray her as such? And why are you so pressured to live with this woman??? Are you married??? Is she to be your everyday hor?? Are you lonely?? Get a dog or monkey!!!!

She moved to Italy for a reason and it was to get away from you - WAKE UP - The Matrix has you!!!!!
 

MindOverMatter

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 21, 2004
Messages
1,889
Reaction score
12
she blames her cheating on YOU!? what the hell. also she told you she just kissed him? you realize you're taking the word of a woman that just admited she cheated on you? for all you know he could have f*cked her brains out. You never know, and you can't take her word for it.

seriously, don't even give her a second thought. move on with your life, and never give her another chance. that relationship died the second she went to italy. long distance ltrs dont work. even if you can resist teh temptation, women can't.
 

-HPNOTIQ-

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 3, 2003
Messages
821
Reaction score
11
Location
Seattle, WA
PRL has put it bluntly. Don't be fooled bro and don't think it was your fault.

I've read all the fella's response before I posted and they all have good advice.

Personally, lets face it..you BOTH were drifting away. Its good that you don't sound too crushed and actually seem optimistic about other women (cute college girls, sexy phone chats, etc).

Remember...IT WAS HER FAULT..HER MOTIVES..HER CHOICE...you didn't stick another fella's penis in her face or whatever...she's trying to blame you for what SHE DID? FAWK HER!!!

And congratulations for freeing yourself from this biznitch
 
Top