Help! Need Help from REAL DJs! (Man of Adventure / SamePendo/ Marpa/ Self-Mastery)!!!

[INXS]

OK Guys I have a situation and I'd love advice on what to do...

I started dating this girl, picked her up a few weeks back, she just moved here. Anyways, we went on a few dates, and I made a wussy error. I asked her to be exclusive. Anyways, she said yes. Then I went out of town for a week, and she knew about it, and she knew the day I got I back, etc. We didnt' talk via the phone the entire time I was gone, and a few days went by since I got home, and then last night I called her, she called me back today and we made plans for Sat night.

Anyways..my problem is this, I met another woman during the first few days I was back (before I heard from the first woman) and thinking that the "exclusive" things didn't matter to the other woman anymore, I asked this second woman out, to which she said yes.

Do I just date both of them? And if it ever comes up explain myself and the situation? Do I break it off with the second? Tell the first woman I want to be "non exclusive" now? If so - how?

I would much appreciate any tips!

 

[AngelusPUA]

Pick the one you like best and get rid of the other, don't be a cheater...... remember KARMA. You can't tell the first girl you don't want to be exclusive no more you will look like a undeceive idiot and she will walk away.

 

[jonwon]

OK Guys I have a situation and I'd love advice on what to do...

I started dating this girl, picked her up a few weeks back, she just moved here. Anyways, we went on a few dates, and I made a wussy error. I asked her to be exclusive. Anyways, she said yes. Then I went out of town for a week, and she knew about it, and she knew the day I got I back, etc. We didnt' talk via the phone the entire time I was gone, and a few days went by since I got home, and then last night I called her, she called me back today and we made plans for Sat night.

Anyways..my problem is this, I met another woman during the first few days I was back (before I heard from the first woman) and thinking that the "exclusive" things didn't matter to the other woman anymore, I asked this second woman out, to which she said yes.

Do I just date both of them? And if it ever comes up explain myself and the situation? Do I break it off with the second? Tell the first woman I want to be "non exclusive" now? If so - how?

I would much appreciate any tips!

I would see both and even try to get more, pick the best one you like after a time and have a LTR with here.

As for KARMA as long as they never bump into each other why worry?

I dont believe in KARMA i do believe in getting the best you can, if that means seeing more then one girl to get more quality then so be it.

Problem is can your wallet and your time take it.

I dated a few problem is it can be a strain.

and no dont tell the first you dont want to be none exclusive, but hey your choice, telling her you dont want to be none exlusive will get her back up and ask questions.

Your personal guilt maybe the KARMA here!

 

[AngelusPUA]

The point is he is lying to the girl saying he will be exclusive.

 

[jonwon]

The point is he is lying to the girl saying he will be exclusive.

Yeh i know, mmmmm exactly how much of that can he live with?
The KARMA is this right here.

As for me, hey not a problem, girls lie too

 

[AngelusPUA]

Really depends on the woman, don't you think?

 

[DonJuanByNature]

What!!!!!>!>!!?!?!??!!

Pick the one you like best and get rid of the other, don't be a cheater...... remember KARMA. .

ammmm... would Don Juan... say "dont be a cheater" ... ammm, yes if he saying it to a girl

LoL


wow.... LOL

yo... unfortunatly.. its a doggy dogg world...


play on playa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (for the AFC's that means date both of them, and continue to pick up numbers and girls etc etc etc etc)

ps.. if it will put a strain and becomes noticable then you might have to pick one for the sake of not loosing everything.. but let me tell you something, having options will make you look less AFC and in the end, being less AFC is more important then showing signs of "strain" that bad "karma" of having a lot of pus.sey will bring upon you.. lol

 

[So pimp its scary]

jonwon... let me clarify something about karma for you.

What anyone else does has no relevance to your own karma... which is basically the idea that what you put out into the world through your thoughts and actions continued through time will come back in other benefits sometimes in very subtle ways.


To the original poster : I would advise you to dump the first girl. Simply because in your mind you've already cheated on her... Why would you go out of your way to be exclusive with a woman that you didn't really want to be that way with??

I also find it funny that you needed help from those 4 specifically...

I'll have to clarify my opinion for DJBN - I always date women as I meet them, but only as long as I've not decided to be exclusive with another woman. At that point I am completely faithful to that one girl.

 

[DonJuanByNature]

here is a good point

To the original poster : I would advise you to dump the first girl. Simply because in your mind you've already cheated on her... Why would you go out of your way to be exclusive with a woman that you didn't really want to be that way with??

the good point is this... are u really into the first one??? also.. is she really the type of girl for you??? i.e. your having doubts she into you (i.e. u said u felt like you acted like AFC..well...a girl into you would have not made u feel that way) also, would your type of girl call you while you away for a week? ... anyways.. sounds like you having your doubts with it anyways...

keep your options open for rainy day.. dude.. there is no marriegae, or engament or even a LTR... date em all...

 

[jonwon]

Really depends on the woman, don't you think?

It sure does PUA it sure does, i think KARMA to me is all about beliefs.
It cant effect you if your ideals are not intuned to the problem.

For example cheating, if you dont mind the girl cheating also where is the KARMA? there is none!

What goes around comes around what a silly saying tbh, it is like focusing on luck, luck is a mental constraint limited by your beliefs, what some may consider lucky others consider unlucky, it is not a defining state.
For example there is a bird in the UK called a maggpie, apparently if you see one you get bad luck, so that day if you get any form of bad thing happen ppl assume it is due to luck, when in reality it would have probably happened anyway. Same for KARMA i believe, it is just another means to limit your full potential, i don’t worry about KARMA luck or any other limiting belief system, hard to do with so much of society geared on this ideal. But when you look at it it is merely an engineered state and not factual, if we believed in luck and KARMA then why is there no such thing as magic and all that other Bull, it is on the same plain of theory. There is no such thing as KARMA or luck it is only what we perceive it to be.

Problem is getting inside my head may break down a lot of walls, not all are comfortable with.
Luck is a state of perception only.

 

[sexysuave]

I agree with you jonwon. I know a LOT of guys who have gone through their entire lives getting craped on. Seriously, I mean the nicest guys you will ever meet. But they never have success with girls. Either the girls cheat on them, or leave them, or never give them a chance in the first place. They are extremely nice in a relationship. I even knew one of these guys that told me that even "checking a woman out on a street anywhere" is a mortal sin and he would NEVER do it. Honestly, I didnt' believe him at first, but then realized the sad reality. Most of these guys are the nicest people you'd ever meet, but they get cheated on, left, and sometimes not even given a chance.

WHERE IS THE KARMA??

Seriously,,, WHERE is the KARMA????

Perhaps 1 out of million of these guys wins the lottery, strikes it rich, and ends up in a marriage with a hottie (who later of course leaves him anyways), and then people start talking about KARMA and LUCK.

What happens to the other 999,999 guys?

WHERE IS THE KARMA??

 

[AngelusPUA]

I don't really believe in karma I was just saying it. Karma is real If you make it real and it is silly, you can say Karma exists but it only exists in the mind of the believer. "WHERE IS THE KARMA??" hahaha I love that, great post sexysuave.

To what DonJuansByNature said, just because one chooses not to cheat it doesn't mean he is not a DJ it means he has morals. I don't lie and manipulate to get women into bed but you do so obviously we have a different set of morals. If you have to deceive women to get sex and you are ok with it than good for you I'm not judging just as you shouldn’t judge when a man takes a more honest approach to seduction.

I also have never told a woman I was going to be exclusive but when I do I will no cheat.

 

[jonwon]

I don't really believe in karma I was just saying it. Karma is real If you make it real and it is silly, you can say Karma exists but it only exists in the mind of the believer.

To what DonJuansByNature said, just because one chooses not to cheat it doesn't mean he is not a DJ it means he has morals. I don't lie and manipulate to get women into bed but you do so obviously we have a different set of morals. If you have to deceive women to get sex and you are ok with it than good for you I'm not judging just as you shouldn’t judge when a man takes a more honest approach to seduction.

I also have never told a woman I was going to be exclusive but when I do I will no cheat.

Morals, perception, reality, this is all it is in truth there is no 'right way' in this scenario, it is exactly what you percive it to be, DJBN and PUA are both right, who are we to judge, if we judge we are only basing it on our beliefs anyway, messed up mind stuff well reason why most are here to shift there way of thinking.

Me personnaly, if i really like a girl i would not cheat either tbh but saying that dating a girl for 2weeks and being mutually exclusive will not happen in my world either, take at least 5-6 months to know if i want to see her FT or not, if she does not like it, hey no great loss plenty of them about tbh.

 

[AngelusPUA]

Morals, perception, reality, this is all it is in truth there is no 'right way' in this scenario, it is exactly what you percive it to be, DJBN and PUA are both right, who are we to judge, if we judge we are only basing it on our beliefs anyway, messed up mind stuff well reason why most are here to shift there way of thinking.

Me personnaly, if i really like a girl i would not cheat either tbh but saying that dating a girl for 2weeks and being mutually exclusive will not happen in my world either, take at least 5-6 months to know if i want to see her FT or not, if she does not like it, hey no great loss plenty of them about tbh.

Damn jonwon 6 months of dating before you commit that’s a lot. I have never committed to a relationship though so I shouldn’t talk. 2 weeks is definitely to little, it like those people that fall in love after 1 week.

 

[jonwon]

Damn jonwon 6 months of dating before you commit that’s a lot. I have never committed to a relationship though so I shouldn’t talk. 2 weeks is definitely to little, it like those people that fall in love after 1 week.

dating yes but being mutual no, takes alot for me to be mutual, born from experiance and alot of regret.

 

[d9930380]

There is no such thing as Karma - Karma says that doing something bad will eventually come back on you.

In my experience a Player ****s girls around all his life with no consequences to him, they become damage goods and take it out on AFCs.

It's up to you: if you can forget about your conscience (be an alpha) to get what YOU want or be a "nice" guy and probably get **** on all your life.

That's how the whole karma thing - women are just the vessels that carry it.

 

[d9930380]

Karma - Oh by the whole getting **** on thing. It goes on a value system.

Girl goes out with player (rich/good looking/etc). He is higher value than her. He ****s on her because he can - all humans take advantage of weaker people. Eventually he dumps/cheats on her because she is lower than him and wants to do better. She is devistated because she's lost someone of higher value. She gets with AFC as an ego boost, she likes being with someone that makes HER feel good - she doesn't give a **** about him. Eventually once her pride has been restored she realisises she can do better and dumps him, devistating him. Then the process repeats.

This only ends when two people of equal value hook up and are sick of chasing the ONE.

BTW - You can reverse the roles male/female - It's basically just a chain and I'm afraid most people here are at the bottom of it.

Sorry - I know that's depressing. But it's true - I'm sure everyone here has **** on someone without really caring and that's the reason why. So don't get on your high-horse of I'm a good guy etc. That just stops you from improving, blame yourself if you're at the bottom - you've allowed yourself to get there - but now you know the score and what to do to change it.

Sorry for the rant guys.

Oh - one last thing - guys being "nice guys" is JUST another way to gain sympathy, just the same crap insecure girls play. No-one is better than anyone else, just more insecure.

 

[INXS]

First of all, thanks for all the great feedback and I loved it. Maybe we should change this thread to "Thoughts on Karma" though haha.

Second of all, I guess my biggest concern is, I don't want to give off this energy to girl number 1, that, I am a wussy, and I can see how bad it would look in my mind if I said to her, "You know, I never heard from you, so I met someone else, so lets be non exclusive."

But on the other hand, I guess I'm afraid of like, her brother, or her, they are both very social people, perhaps bumping into the other woman, or someone that knows her, and me being "found out." I'd hate to have to explain myself later.

I woke up this morning and kind of thought, about this new idea:

What if I just do this -

Casually, make a joke about how since she didn't call while I was gone, I'm so irrestible, how could I not meet someone new during that time? Maybe finish it off with a sly smile. That way maybe she won't know if I'm serious or just being ****y and funny.

What do you think of this guy...?

 

[AngelusPUA]

Don't do that!

Are you Aussie?

 

[vorbis]

just date both of them, if the first one finds out, act like its no big deal, after all ye only went out for a few weeks and then took nearly a two week break! In fact if she did find out you're dating someone else you'd probably raise her value in her eyes! She probably thinks that she has you wrapped around her little finger.