Hello Dj's, New to the forum and have a question/observation.

[Fatal Jay]

Hello

I been lurking on the forum for awhile now, and have soaked up good info from the forum.Now I choose to make a profile and join in on the fun lol.

What I notice with girls, even the ugly ones, they dont seem to respond to text messages.

I have a lot of girls on my phone, hotties to average to just some for sexual reasons, and while they do text, I notice even the below average play the games like the hotties and dont respond, when i know women check their phones constant.

What im curious about, is this some kind of way that a woman is buidling attraction, cause to be honest I just delete the numbers if i get three no responses.

 

[thevilittletroll]

they dont respond because they dont have a reason to. you have no value to them in her mind. the second reason they dont respond is there is no attraction. practice your attraction game, and when you get a phone number have a reason for getting it. never say we should hang out sometime whats you number. have an event in mind, real or not, build it up, get the number.

let me paint you a picture on value in a womans eyes. lets say an average girl, hb7 goes out to a bar. she talks with several guys thoughout the course of the night. lets say out of 10 guys she talks to 9 of them have a conversation for 10-15 mins then she gives them her number. 1 guy talks to her for 30-60 mins and gets her number. over the course of the next week the first 9 guys are texting and blowing up her phone saying the same thing. "whats up, what are you doing sat night, we should hang out." its the same thing over and over, and shes not really attracted to any of them anyway. she doesnt want to hang out, she feels no reason to respond. she's waiting for the 1 guy she talked to for an hour to text or call. maybe he does, maybe he doesnt. she was attracted to him, when he does text or call, she answers him right away. she wants to hang out with him, he has the value. some girls are polite and will respond to your texts, but their actions speak louder than words. is she hanging out with you, or giving you lame excuses like she's busy, going out of town, sick, ect.

i like to say phone numbers are not worth the paper they're written on. keep this in mind, your goal should not be getting her phone number. your goal should be to get the date. you must build attraction to reduce your flake rate. thats the only way around it.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

Hello

What I notice with girls, even the ugly ones, they dont seem to respond to text messages.

Fatal Jay,

Sometimes, girls give their numbers out to a lot of guys that they have NO real interest in. And as a result of that, they treat all incoming text messages from "unwanted" guys like the random, scrolling news feeds that you see on cable news networks.

They may glance down at them from time to time to see what's happening, then they immediately dismiss it from their minds and continue going about their day.

If YOU don't matter to the woman, then the medium you use to try to make contact with her won't matter either.

Even still, I recommend that you expand your arsenal of communication beyond the limitations of "just" text messaging as soon as possible.


V.U.

 

[Solomon]

they dont respond because they dont have a reason to. you have no value to them in her mind. the second reason they dont respond is there is no attraction. practice your attraction game, and when you get a phone number have a reason for getting it. never say we should hang out sometime whats you number. have an event in mind, real or not, build it up, get the number.

let me paint you a picture on value in a womans eyes. lets say an average girl, hb7 goes out to a bar. she talks with several guys thoughout the course of the night. lets say out of 10 guys she talks to 9 of them have a conversation for 10-15 mins then she gives them her number. 1 guy talks to her for 30-60 mins and gets her number. over the course of the next week the first 9 guys are texting and blowing up her phone saying the same thing. "whats up, what are you doing sat night, we should hang out." its the same thing over and over, and shes not really attracted to any of them anyway. she doesnt want to hang out, she feels no reason to respond. she's waiting for the 1 guy she talked to for an hour to text or call. maybe he does, maybe he doesnt. she was attracted to him, when he does text or call, she answers him right away. she wants to hang out with him, he has the value. some girls are polite and will respond to your texts, but their actions speak louder than words. is she hanging out with you, or giving you lame excuses like she's busy, going out of town, sick, ect.

i like to say phone numbers are not worth the paper they're written on. keep this in mind, your goal should not be getting her phone number. your goal should be to get the date. you must build attraction to reduce your flake rate. thats the only way around it.

This a great post could you give an example on how you would build attraction....

 

[thevilittletroll]

every girl is different so the same lines and routines will not work on every girl. but one thing that remains constant is the fact that it only takes about 10-15 mins. so the best advice i can give to guys out there is dont work so hard to get one girl. work on getting better at the skill of attraction. once you learn it you can attract almost any girl you want very quickly. as far as techniques i like to use is to put them on an emotional roller coaster. i want them to feel as many different emotions in as little time as possible. interesting, fun, laughing, offended, mad, compassion, attraction, lust. i want to open with a good opinion opener thats interesting. gets all her friends talking, then i'll neg her, disqualify myself, get her to chase a little, qualify herself to me. flirt with her friends and show that i like them and not her so much. she qualifies herself more to me. then i love using push pull, and really step up the kino, but always push her away after i touch her. then i love using roleplays and amp up the kino, always pushing away. once i get to the point that she's initiating kino on me, i know the attraction is complete. its time to move her from her group of friends and pull the make out. remember there are no rules only guidelines.

 

[typical]

See I'm going to go off on a tangent here and say that while what thelittletroll is saying is right smack bang on the money, the whole bar scene is just not my area or place to be picking up women.

I've never ever had the patience of bar/club game, plus when I'm out at a bar or club its usually with people I already know and we are most likely only stopping in for a few drinks a few laughs and maybe a dance or three.

Yes I have taken girls that I'm dating to the bar/club and we have "accidently" bumped into people I know, which creates more social proof and intrigue. But hardly ever have I picked up women in a bar. When I was younger and was a amateur fighter we could literally walk into a bar/club and girls would be all over us but I never actually used any game back then.

I'm a solid day game guy, people seem to be more open to talking and interacting in the daylight and you get more for your time and less drama/issues.

Having said all this I have to say that the dynamics of game do not change in any setting and you have to have the right skillset for the place otherwise you're going to go through many many "no response/flaking out at the last minute" drama sessions.

The older I get (and I'm only 28), the more and more I value my time to set and achieve goals that will get me something or somewhere. Many people that I interact with have told me its a vibe I give off that I know I'm the sh!t and I don't have time for drama so when I talk to them about anything they give me their utmost time and attention otherwise I'm off and they are left behind.

I now believe 100% that if you chase after a dream and it can be anything you want and you learn the basics of "game" and apply it to everything you do most things tend to fall into place, and the women fall into place also. And if they don't I'm gone.

I think that is the key I come across as someone that is always willing to walk away and people hate being seduced by someone with the power to always walk away thus they keep chasing after me.

 

[Fatal Jay]

typical I like your post bro, and everyone one elses.