Healthy drinks and Not healthy drinks

[incognito42]

healthy:


water





not healthy:


sweet tea
unsweet tea
diet coke
coffee
gatorade



None of these things are good for you, if you use them because they help you stay away from soda, stay with 'em until you have no more soda cravings. Then say bye to each of them because theyre all bad for you. I nearly gag whenI for some reason or another take a drink of soda, coffee, tea etc. It really surprises me how I use to suck sodas down, with how obvious it is to me now how bad they are for you simply by the way my body reacts to them. Stay with water only, and some milk and OJ are ok too

 

[Kerensky]

I think eliminating soda from my diet was the biggest step forward I made regarding weight loss.

2 years later when we were at a fast food joint, I had my first sip of coke in 2 years and you know what happened?

I choked on the carbonated fumes.

 

[AbAbber2k]

I wouldn't consider Gatorade an "unhealthy" beverage, especially considering the benefits it boasts over just water such as...

Electrolyte replenishment.
Glucose > Insulin response.

Too much sugar is isn't good for you, but you could do a lot worse than a gatorade. Plus, if you're like me, when you're working out (even on a bulking cycle) you're not consuming lots of sugar anyway. Generally the only sugar I get is from fruits and juice.

If you're really concerned about what you're drinking, stay away from caffinated beverages (not just because of caffine) and alcohol.

Oh, and hi. Use to lurk quite a bit long ago... first time posting.

 

[incognito42]

Originally posted by AbAbber2k
I wouldn't consider Gatorade an "unhealthy" beverage, especially considering the benefits it boasts over just water such as...

Electrolyte replenishment.
Glucose > Insulin response.

Too much sugar is isn't good for you, but you could do a lot worse than a gatorade. Plus, if you're like me, when you're working out (even on a bulking cycle) you're not consuming lots of sugar anyway. Generally the only sugar I get is from fruits and juice.

If you're really concerned about what you're drinking, stay away from caffinated beverages (not just because of caffine) and alcohol.

Oh, and hi. Use to lurk quite a bit long ago... first time posting.

I hear too much bad talk about Gatorade to even deal with it. I just stick to water, it will flush your system faster and I feel better drinking water than anything. It gives me more energy than Gatorade, but if its your thing keep drinking. I am thinking about quitting smoking and drinking, but imo is your not smoking tobacco the other stuff wont effect an athletic type. Me and one of my friends were talking about it the other day, I dont get winded, and I dont get sick, EVER. And hes the same way, and we are both habitual non-tobacco smokers. Still thinking of quitting drinking and smoking after my b-day next weekend though, because they wont help me in acheiving my goals.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by incognito42
I hear too much bad talk about Gatorade to even deal with it. I just stick to water, it will flush your system faster and I feel better drinking water than anything. It gives me more energy than Gatorade, but if its your thing keep drinking. I am thinking about quitting smoking and drinking, but imo is your not smoking tobacco the other stuff wont effect an athletic type. Me and one of my friends were talking about it the other day, I dont get winded, and I dont get sick, EVER. And hes the same way, and we are both habitual non-tobacco smokers. Still thinking of quitting drinking and smoking after my b-day next weekend though, because they wont help me in acheiving my goals.

Just an FYI, too much water is bad for you especially if you are an athlete. I've seen many endurance athletes suffer from hyponatremia because they thought that more water was better. It's not a pretty sight.

Quitting smoking is one of the best things that you can do. Alcohol in moderation can be managed if you have a healthy, balanced lifestyle.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Smoking reduces your vital capacity which inhibities your ability to perform at high levels of intensity.

Alcohol screws with your testosterone levels which inhibits muscle growth.

You say you don't get winded, but in reality, ANYONE can get winded, it's all a matter of intensity. Think of it this way. You and your twin are next to each other on tread mills. You smoke, the other doesn't. Now we start the treadmill at a 20min mile. No problem... you're both doing fine... not even sweating. Bump it up to 15... okay... 10... 8... 7... Eventually you reach a point (maybe from the beginning) where it requires more energy for you to do the same amount of work as your twin. The REASON is, because you're a smoker, the amount of air your lungs can absorb is lower than your non-smoking twin. This means you have to take more and deeper breaths to bring in enough oxygen for energy production. Eventually you get to a point where breathing becomes less efficient (or rather the oxygen exchange, i'm not sure how to put it) because you're having to UTILIZE more oxygen in order to maintain higher breathing rates. In other words, the oxygen that could be going towards power-output is instead being used by your lungs.

 

[incognito42]

Originally posted by AbAbber2k
Smoking reduces your vital capacity which inhibities your ability to perform at high levels of intensity.

Alcohol screws with your testosterone levels which inhibits muscle growth.

You say you don't get winded, but in reality, ANYONE can get winded, it's all a matter of intensity. Think of it this way. You and your twin are next to each other on tread mills. You smoke, the other doesn't. Now we start the treadmill at a 20min mile. No problem... you're both doing fine... not even sweating. Bump it up to 15... okay... 10... 8... 7... Eventually you reach a point (maybe from the beginning) where it requires more energy for you to do the same amount of work as your twin. The REASON is, because you're a smoker, the amount of air your lungs can absorb is lower than your non-smoking twin. This means you have to take more and deeper breaths to bring in enough oxygen for energy production. Eventually you get to a point where breathing becomes less efficient (or rather the oxygen exchange, i'm not sure how to put it) because you're having to UTILIZE more oxygen in order to maintain higher breathing rates. In other words, the oxygen that could be going towards power-output is instead being used by your lungs.

This is very informative. I dont agree, I dont agree from the standpoint that regardless of what medical or scientifical data Im shown I believe the effects are different from person to person. I think that an athlete is not effected by marijuana nearly the same way as others. Onterrio Smith has no problems smoking weed and playing NFL football, and you have to be in better shape to be an NFL player than almost anything else in the world. He was busted twice in college, twice in the pros and recently busted with detox at an airport. He is an obvious habitual smoker and has no PHYSICAL problems where he appears to get winded earlier than any otehr non-smoker RB. Same went for Rickey Williams, who was undisputably the most used RB in the league over a 3-4 year span. Getting 40+ carries reguularly. He never had problems. Mark Stepnoski is a NORML activist and admittedly smoked every day during the season, and he went to 5 pro bowls. Smoking weed is almost soically acceptable amongst professional athletes, especially NBA players, and is rarely ever held against any athlete in any sport, that has been busted, when being considered for a job. So no matter how much data you can show me, I still believe that if you are an athlete and you eat right and otherwise treat your body right, you will not suffer physical problems in the way of getting winded faster or getting sick. I believe marijuana keeps your immune system sharper. But anyways, Ill stop now. And I am thinking of quitting smoking and drinking only because I am pursuing college football, and want to clear my MIND

 

[WORKEROUTER]

Originally posted by incognito42
healthy:


water





not healthy:


sweet tea
unsweet tea
diet coke
coffee
gatorade



None of these things are good for you, if you use them because they help you stay away from soda, stay with 'em until you have no more soda cravings. Then say bye to each of them because theyre all bad for you. I nearly gag whenI for some reason or another take a drink of soda, coffee, tea etc. It really surprises me how I use to suck sodas down, with how obvious it is to me now how bad they are for you simply by the way my body reacts to them. Stay with water only, and some milk and OJ are ok too

I am not sure where you get your expert advice, but I don't agree with your list of unhealthy items.

Gatorade, soda, diet coke, and sweetened tea should be on the unhealthy list.

Coffee and tea are not bad for you, unless you drink them in excess. In fact, both are showing to have health benefits. Coffee has been shown to help reduce the chance of developing Parkinson's Disease. Tea, particularly green and white, is loaded with antioxidants.

And plus, I like to drink a cup or two of organic coffee before I work out, as the caffeine has shown to allow for greater muscular exertion!

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Re: Re: Healthy drinks and Not healthy drinks

Originally posted by WORKEROUTER
I am not sure where you get your expert advice, but I don't agree with your list of unhealthy items.

Gatorade, soda, diet coke, and sweetened tea should be on the unhealthy list.

Coffee and tea are not bad for you, unless you drink them in excess. In fact, both are showing to have health benefits. Coffee has been shown to help reduce the chance of developing Parkinson's Disease. Tea, particularly green and white, is loaded with antioxidants.

And plus, I like to drink a cup or two of organic coffee before I work out, as the caffeine has shown to allow for greater muscular exertion!

It's true that caffeine in MODERATION has shown some health benefits. So it's not necessarily bad.

 

[simon]

Dietary cholesterol isn't the monster it's made out to be. In short, an increase in dietary cholesterol should decrease the rate at which the liver synthesises cholesterol. It's actually the saturated fat in the milk that stimulates the liver to synthesise more cholesterol, hence raising blood cholesterol levels.

For every additional 100mg of cholesterol consumed up to a total intake of 500mg per day, there is a 2-3% increase in the concentration of plasma cholesterol. In contrast further increases in cholesterol intake beyond 500mg per day have little additional effect on the plasma level (Hopkins AJCN 1992; 55: 1060-70).

Anyway, I stick to water, orange juice, rice milk, green tea, peppermint tea and the occasional alcoholic tipple.

 

[chuchu]

Unsweet tea is good for you, just dont drink too much.

 

[incognito42]

I am no DJ, but I am an athlete. And I have heard from enough sources being an athlete, to know that gatorade, diet coke, coffee, and tea are all *OVERALL* bad for you.

I wont even drink gatorade when playing sports anymore. It is the only thing I mentioned that is OK to drink at specific times.

Tea, sugar free or not, IS bad for an atlete in training, or a DJ in training to appear to be an athlete. I have been told by too many people that I knew, knew what they were talking about, to stay away from tea. If you are trying to get your body in top shape, tea is bad for you.

btw, "Just an FYI, too much water is bad for you especially if you are an athlete. I've seen many endurance athletes suffer from hyponatremia because they thought that more water was better. It's not a pretty sight." I found this really interesting. Never heard of too much water being bad for you. Will check into this more

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Does anyone care to post why Gatorade is bad for you?

 

[Pookie]

Teas should remain on the healthy list IMO.

The reasons why it should be consumed:
-antioxidants
-help with cravings
-burn slightly more calories
-alternative to coffee
-better rest
-relaxing
-more energy
-mental clarity (yerba mate)

The reasons why it should be avoided:
-can stain teeth [black tea if in excess]
-can prevent absorption of multivitamin
-caffeine [a pro and a con]

 

[Pookie]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Does anyone care to post why Gatorade is bad for you?

Don't look in terms of good vs. bad. In certain situations, gatorade can be good. It has 14g sugar (glucose-fructose syrup). The content doesn't aid most people toward their goals. It is not as great of a set back for athletes as coke/pepsi though.

 

[Heizen]

Originally posted by incognito42
I am no DJ, but I am an athlete. And I have heard from enough sources being an athlete, to know that gatorade, diet coke, coffee, and tea are all *OVERALL* bad for you.

I wont even drink gatorade when playing sports anymore. It is the only thing I mentioned that is OK to drink at specific times.

Tea, sugar free or not, IS bad for an atlete in training, or a DJ in training to appear to be an athlete. I have been told by too many people that I knew, knew what they were talking about, to stay away from tea. If you are trying to get your body in top shape, tea is bad for you.

btw, "Just an FYI, too much water is bad for you especially if you are an athlete. I've seen many endurance athletes suffer from hyponatremia because they thought that more water was better. It's not a pretty sight." I found this really interesting. Never heard of too much water being bad for you. Will check into this more

Statements without proof or facts are useless. I could say EVERYTHING is bad for you, and without a logic response as to WHY or a reason I would sound like you. Heresay (My bud said it was bad for you) does not take the place of facts or logic.

Drinking too much water which doing things like long distance running can upset the balance of chemicals in the brain by essentially diluting them. There was a lady in the boston marathon that died a few years ago because of it.

You all act like sugar is useless. If it were useless, you would see no sugar in any health food, ever. Sugar is a carb, can be used for a insulin spike and isn't bad for you if you take it in moderation. 50 calories worth of gatorade isn't going to set you back, as you say, because it is a sports drink first off, and a regular drink second. I perfer to make my own mixes for running workouts simply because I want to have more on hand then a 20 oz bottle, but on a hot humid workout day, I would much rather have diluted gatorade then water. If you are stressing over 14G of sugars then you are overanalyzing you diet.

It isn't bad for you. The only thing I can think of is drinking gatorade solely, and having the sodium eventually dehydrating you, but that wouldn't happen under normal circumstances.

Soda and diet soda is completly and totally useless. For normal athletes tea and coffee won't kill you; they have caffine which is the only reason it might affect your training.

Honestly, unless you have aspirations to be a olympic athlete, gatorade isn't bad for you, tea and coffee is fine in moderation, and soda is still useless.

 

[SupaDupaAFC]

Ever wonder where all the food coloring goes when you take a p1ss? you drink something red a gold and black and ****, then you piss white or yellow. it just dont seem like that **** can be good for you.

 

[coolguy676767]

Doesnt make a difference on color, yeah they might be bad, but ever wonder why your **** is brown, you could eat all salads, and it may be tinted green but it would still be brown, so even good stuff changes color, oh and btw, I have heard that some athelets use heavy doses of caffeine before training in order to last in longer endurace exercises. A marathon probly wouldnt work, but a 5k run it would probably help. And by hear I mean from multiple reputable magizines, and from my coaches at school. Plus caffeine increases motabolism, burning more calories. I know there is downsides, but there are many upsides to it also. In fact I drink 2 large energy drinks before each weightlifting meet I have, and its seems to help, not dramatically, but puts about 5 more pounds maybe 10 on each of my lifts. Which in competition is a huge deal.

 

[MindOverMatter]

Gatorade isn't bad, it's a great source for a post workout insulin spike before you gulp down your PWO shake.

However, it's way cheaper if you just buy dextrose and put it in your PWO shake.

Milk ... Milk is very overrated. Want Vitamin D and calcium? Take a good multivitamin. Milk is fattening and it has cholesterol.

Get skim milk, as for cholesterol, don't be a wuss, it's not that bad. Milk is a great source of casein protein that is absorbed slowly over time, it's great for having right before you go to bed so that you don't wake up with a protein deficit.

edit - 1 glass of skim milk is 10mg of cholesterol, recommended daily intake is 300-400mg.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
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Get skim milk, as for cholesterol, don't be a wuss, it's not that bad. Milk is a great source of casein protein that is absorbed slowly over time, it's great for having right before you go to bed so that you don't wake up with a protein deficit.

edit - 1 glass of skim milk is 10mg of cholesterol, recommended daily intake is 300-400mg.

I've been drinking skim milk for years in protein shakes, cereal, whatever. A couple of weeks ago a had a glass of whole milk and wretched because it tasted too thick and heavy. It was as if I could taste (and feel) the thinkness of the fat... Ick....