Have you been helped by SoSuave?

[Wolfgang D]

It would be interesting to see how many have experienced improvement after finding SoSuave. I have found many things in the DJ Bible and in SoSuave that I always keep in mind, notably how to muster the courage to do cold opens, the importance of spinning plates, showing a carefree attitude, not trying to qualify yourself to a woman, and limiting electronic contact. Having someone pound into you the importance of working out doesn't hurt either. These pointers have made a difference.

Sometimes even the things you would consider no-brainers are gold to the guy who has never heard them stated clearly before.

 

[Mr Wright]

Yes, I've been helped by this site to an extent but the stuff thats really got me to where I'm heading comes from other sources, which I just found to have less of the BS surrounding it. This forum has a lot of negativity on it from guys who arent getting laid, if guys were getting laid, it would be a happier place.

This site is good for concepts and mindsets but when it comes to more the more practical aspects, it's kind of lacking and poor.

I just think it's hard for nerdy guys to read all this and truly believe it, especially when they're standing in front of a smoking hot blonde who's a few inchers taller than them. How on earth is he really going to believe he's the prize, smells like BS to me. That's why I think for guys getting into this you need a structure and a guy showing you how to do it rather than aimlessly hitting and missing, then coming on here to complain about how a girl flaked on them or whatever. I honestly think only about 10% of the forum are getting anywhere near the results that they want, if not less.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Mr Wright, "he's the prize" is more of a "PUA" thing. And you find that here too, but I think this forum has a lot more practical advice to offer. Like I said, even some of the most basic stuff is very valuable to a guy who has never heard about it before. You read and keep your wits about you, and you find what is tried and true.

 

[Skyy.]

Your success with women and the time spent on SoSuave is shaped like a bell curve.

As Mr Wright said, most guys on here are more focused on theory than practice. I personally believe that you need to get out there and apply the theories instead of continually developing theories.

The journals and reports are impressive when you see where the OP was before compared to now. We need more of those.

 

[Wolfgang D]

Your success with women and the time spent on SoSuave is shaped like a bell curve.

As Mr Wright said, most guys on here are more focused on theory than practice. I personally believe that you need to get out there and apply the theories instead of continually developing theories.

The journals and reports are impressive when you see where the OP was before compared to now. We need more of those.

Yes, practice is important. But that is a debate for another thread. The question is whether you have been helped by SoSuave.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

I just think it's hard for nerdy guys to read all this and truly believe it, especially when they're standing in front of a smoking hot blonde who's a few inchers taller than them.

One of the problems I see on here is that not everyone's equal. Just because it worked for someone doesn't mean it will work for another....not really a new concept. But you'll have a guy getting IOI's from women without even doing anything, just by standing there ordering a cup of coffee....and it's basically up to him to lose the girl's interest, sometimes all he needs to close is to gather up the balls to approach. It's a whole different dynamic for the guy that has to constantly work for any type of IOI. Constantly running game to increase her interest level.

A lot of the core basic concepts are the same, like Wolfgang mentioned. But knowing where you stand and what it's going to take for you to succeed is instrumental in progressing to the next level(s).

 

[Mr Wright]

Mr Wright, "he's the prize" is more of a "PUA" thing. And you find that here too, but I think this forum has a lot more practical advice to offer. Like I said, even some of the most basic stuff is very valuable to a guy who has never heard about it before. You read and keep your wits about you, and you find what is tried and true.

I've learnt a lot more from other resources and this place is generally pretty negative about women which can fvck with your head and have you thinking they're the enemy.

I promise you now that most people on here after years of being on here are better in theory but not in practice. They could regurgitate advice from anywhere but I bet my bottom dollar that they havent ever tried it once let alone multiple times. The proof is in the pudding, you can make all the excuses you want but some guys have gotten really good at this after like 6 months, it just depends how much the person really wants it.

The cold harsh truth is that guys rarely go from the bottom to the top, if you managed to go up 2 rungs on the ladder, that is a victory for you. Guys feel like this will give them the golden ticket but all it will really give you is a chance, a chance at a better sex life than you have at the moment. So that means if you've shagged 2 girls in your whole life, sleeping with 3 average girls in a year is a fvcking win but guys are aiming so high they forget where they are coming from.

 

[JohnChops]

hell yeah, in a matter of self improvement sosuave gave me a kick ass mindset! Mr.Wright is also right. is youre on here too much then the negativity will bombard you. Sh1t i was even on here to much in the start. There comes a point where you have to just stop coming here every day, and just live life.

 

[Wolfgang D]

I see exactly what you are saying, Mr Wright, and I have made the point myself that some are too negative. But focusing on those to the point where the SS advice can't be discussed without it is also negative.

There was a thread about that made by TheException in July, called You Guys Need a Wakeup Call. I posted there, agreeing with the author. However. This isn't about the negative guys - does that have to take over any talk about SS? This is about the practical advice that is given. Does it work for you? That is what I want to know. I personally know that, to use a simple measure of success, I wouldn't have slept with half as many women as I have if it hadn't been for the many pointers in SoSuave and the DJ Bible, back when I was lurking. I suspect there are a lot more people lurking than posting, by the way.

 

[The_411]

Absolutely,

Granted SoSoauve helped me get way from blue pill thinking and it certainly helped me when I was getting over my BPD ex. Everytime I come here there is information that forces me to question my viewpoints and that's a good thing.

 

[backbreaker]

I see exactly what you are saying, Mr Wright, and I have made the point myself that some are too negative. But focusing on those to the point where the SS advice can't be discussed without it is also negative.

There was a thread about that made by TheException in July, called You Guys Need a Wakeup Call. I posted there, agreeing with the author. However. This isn't about the negative guys - does that have to take over any talk about SS? This is about the practical advice that is given. Does it work for you? That is what I want to know. I personally know that, to use a simple measure of success, I wouldn't have slept with half as many women as I have if it hadn't been for the many pointers in SoSuave and the DJ Bible, back when I was lurking. I suspect there are a lot more people lurking than posting, by the way.

i can say that the site has helped me to not get fvcked over. that is 100000% certain.

but i can also say that the site has never gotten me laid. i got laid because i went out and got rejected and figured the **** out.


i agree with your assessment the practical, how do i get my **** wet advice is lacking. but that does not mean you can't learn something. and in turn, not having a baby momma, not being married to a gold digger, not to be put on the marriage fast track, these are all helpful things that make you more attractive as a possible mate. But as far as, what to do here and what to do there, how to get her here, how to get her to do whati want her to do, nah.


which now that i think about it ironically enough exactly what i came her looking for. i didn't give a **** about pills or hypergamy i wanted one specific girl to spread her legs lol.

 

[floydb25]

One of the problems I see on here is that not everyone's equal. Just because it worked for someone doesn't mean it will work for another....not really a new concept. But you'll have a guy getting IOI's from women without even doing anything, just by standing there ordering a cup of coffee....and it's basically up to him to lose the girl's interest, sometimes all he needs to close is to gather up the balls to approach. It's a whole different dynamic for the guy that has to constantly work for any type of IOI. Constantly running game to increase her interest level.

A lot of the core basic concepts are the same, like Wolfgang mentioned. But knowing where you stand and what it's going to take for you to succeed is instrumental in progressing to the next level(s).

Agreed... and it works both ways. Just because x and y DIDN'T work for this guy - doesn't mean it won't work for anyone... even though they would like to think, or even have that be the case. Everyone likes to be right, and on the same footing, I guess. :kick:

 

[TheGambino]

I pull bad chicks since i was in first grade but in most cases i ended up friendzoned. I was a complete AFC for years trying to win hot girls over impressing them putting en on a pedestal paying every date not bein sexual and even advicing them about ex's. Ss opened my eyes guys i didnt understand rule number 1. Make a girl horney. Know i do and its paying off bigtime. So yes good that i found out about this forum for me.

 

[nismo-4]

What you need to do if find advice that works for you and apply it. Not everything will work for you. This site gives you a mixed bag of advice. It's like asking Ohio State students if Sarah Jessica Parker is pretty.

You need to experiment. But the fact is, you need to experiment. As in, get off your ass and put in the work.

I have helped many this post is some factual help for your ass. :yes:

Case closed.

 

[Zarky]

I've been helped by my own posting. That is, when I have to think of stuff in such a way that I can write it down and express it to others, that helps me. As far as what others write, it's 99.999% noise here so I'd have to say no.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

I've been helped by my own posting. That is, when I have to think of stuff in such a way that I can write it down and express it to others, that helps me. As far as what others write, it's 99.999% noise here so I'd have to say no.

Zarky, you're one of a kind.

 

[Purefilth]

DJ Bible, Book Of Pook and Field Reports.

Also Its kinda theraputic trying to help others through their struggles.

Lets call it good Karma - Those who take the time to write out real answers for a struggling man are good people IMO.

 

[Jair213]

At first I was lost. I remember I was trying to be alpha to some chick in my early stages of being here. That backfired on me like crazy. LOL She lost interest because I was being too much of an 'azzhole'' according to her.

But you learn to apply certain things in time and watt works.

 

[VladPatton]

What this site did for me, in a year's time, by way of other's real world experience and advice from those experiences (good or bad), was to understand basic meanings between male/female interactions. A lift of mystery if you will. All of this, of course, is to help one protect himself and not waste time or emotions with a girl that will get him nowhere.

Basically, crossroads have been eliminated, roads have straightened, and big reflective signs are now everywhere. But hey, that's just me....if you get something else from being here, more power to you.

 

[Masculinity]

Yes, SS has helped me very much--especially the tips section. If you invest the time and fight your own demons/insecurities, it can definitely make your game and character smoother. The theory is posted and it is up to you to interpret it and make it happen for yourself. The "magic" really happens once you change your character and develop a mindset in which women are accessible beings, instead of having them on a pedestal.

On the other hand, there are many angry men in this site hoping for a canned technique that will make women fall on their laps. Such negativity, in turn, gets projected onto the website and other members. In conclusion, if you know how to filter the great material from the junk, a plethora of knowledge can be attained from this website. Let's keep it as positive as possible!

Keep being money,

-R