Growing without working out?

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Hey everybody, unluckily a couple of days ago I fell to the ground while playing rugby at midnight and I think I may have twisted my right shoulder. I'm not going to the doctor unless it still hurts next week.

Anyway, within 3 weeks my real summer holidays will start and I'll spend like 6 weeks at the beach. I want to have a perfect body for then and I think that maybe I could use this time (since I obviously can't workout for at least 2 weeks) to cut.

At the moment, I'm 5'8 and around 150 lbs (I started out at 125). My scale says that my bodyfat is 10.4 and I think it could be right. I can see my abs just when I flex them, but I often have a protruding gut and I tend to store all my fat in the stomach area, so I want to get to 8% (like last summer when I was 140 lbs and my abs were almost always ripped).

Now, the question comes. My legs are pretty underdeveloped, the thighs have almost gone up to par [started squatting when my upperbody was already good], but my calves sùck [never really worked them out]: my arms are litterally as big as them, 14". But I can't squat or do weighted calf raises, because of the shoulder injury. Would it do any good to do something HIIT-related based on jumping without weight? I also want to improve my vert, so is this good for:

1. Cutting up
2. Improving my calves' size
3. Improving my vertical jumping for basketball?

???
 

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28 views and no answer? c'mon guys, don't fùck with a cripple
 

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Get a skipping rope.
 

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MrS said:
Get a skipping rope.
Shoulder injury man, how am I supposed to skip rope?;)

May anyone suggest a daily routine that implies just free jumping (like on the spot, left and right, forth and back, etc...) I can perform?
 

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grr said:
I don't live anywhere near the sea and I have no access to a swimming pool.

Why don't you guys attain to my question please?
 

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1. Don't cut if you can't weight train. If the body has no need to keep the muscle it will get rid of it.

2. For Calves when you get back to the gym try doing rest pause sets with calves raises. Aim for 20-25 reps total for the three sets for example: (12,8,5)

3. Have no clue. I broke the school record by doing squats but there are probably more effective ways. I've heard of a program called air alert, maybe you can check it out.
 

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I've just recently started working out my abs for the first time, because I've heard that strong abs help with the protruding gut problem. So far I've gone back to almost a 30" (I was a 32" a couple of weeks ago), but I still have the protruding gut really often, like now. It's strange, because when I flex I look like a Man's Health model, but if I relax, I look like a skinny Ronnie Coleman :)D): you can clearly see the muscles and the vascularity, but there's a huge belly that just doesn't go away.
 

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Hockey Playa said:
can u at least train core? do lots of situps or whatever at least you'll have the beach abs :)
I hope you're not serious?


Anyway, muscular atrophy occurs 2 weeks after not training (Hypertrophy means increase in size, so what do you think atrophy means?;)). You will not be able to cut if you aren't doing some form of resistance training. Shoulder injuries are one of the worst to have, as shoulders play a part in practically every exercise, whether it be stablising, contracting concentrically/eccentrically or assisting. My hands are tied on this one, as I don't have any experience working with rehabillitation needs. But for when you do get back on track, here's a nice calf workout:

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1125/3minutecalveworkout3tn.jpg

As for the "gut", don't worry as I have this as well.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ms-fit5.htm

Try that out, it can be performed anywhere at any time. I'm going to attempt this and see how effective it is (if at all).
 

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[S]alvatore said:
I hope you're not serious?


Anyway, muscular atrophy occurs 2 weeks after not training (Hypertrophy means increase in size, so what do you think atrophy means?;)). You will not be able to cut if you aren't doing some form of resistance training. Shoulder injuries are one of the worst to have, as shoulders play a part in practically every exercise, whether it be stablising, contracting concentrically/eccentrically or assisting. My hands are tied on this one, as I don't have any experience working with rehabillitation needs. But for when you do get back on track, here's a nice calf workout:

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1125/3minutecalveworkout3tn.jpg

As for the "gut", don't worry as I have this as well.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ms-fit5.htm

Try that out, it can be performed anywhere at any time. I'm going to attempt this and see how effective it is (if at all).
Thank you very much, man! The Calves Work Out looks interesting, why hasn't anybody thought about implementing it for other exercises and muscle groups? What do you think?

As for the gut, I'm not worried about health, for I've had it since I was born. It's just that I want to get rid of it within a month and I want to know if that's possible, considering that fat is just a minimal part of it.
 

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Take a lot of chondroitin and glucosamine sulfate (They usually are in the same pill) These supplements help rebuild cartilage. I used to get a lot of shoulder injuries from lifting too heavy with bad form. It would take me months to recover. With chondroitin and glucosamine, it only took a couple of weeks. These suppleements help rebuild connective tissue (like joints and tendons, which you probably tore).
 

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I skipped the last couple posts, but I hope somebody mentioned that in 6 weeks you will NOT get the 'perfect beach body'

This will take many many months of proper nutrition and hardcore lifting. With a shoulder injury, you will be very limited in your movements.

There are tons of routines, tons of diet advice and such on these forums, the other forums, and the internet in general. Do a little bit of research, come back, post some of the stuff you learned and get some critiquing on that. It's much better than "Tell me what to do"
 

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Skilla_Staz said:
I skipped the last couple posts, but I hope somebody mentioned that in 6 weeks you will NOT get the 'perfect beach body'

This will take many many months of proper nutrition and hardcore lifting. With a shoulder injury, you will be very limited in your movements.

There are tons of routines, tons of diet advice and such on these forums, the other forums, and the internet in general. Do a little bit of research, come back, post some of the stuff you learned and get some critiquing on that. It's much better than "Tell me what to do"

1. It's not like I'm starting now. I already have a very nice body, since I am 5'8 (without shoes) and 150 lbs (without clothes) at less than 11% bodyfat. I just want to lose a couple of digits on my bodyfat, which doesn't sound impossible in a month.

2. I didn't ask what to do. My questions were these:

A. Would it do any good to do something HIIT-related based on jumping without weight? (in the first post)

B. What could be a good daily routine based only on free jumps? (in the second post; i asked this because I tried to find it on the internet, but I couldn't)

C. How can I lose my gut, considering that my bodyfat is already low?

I never ever asked to tell me how to train, I just asked for opinions and advice, which is what a forum is supposed to be about.
 

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Lifeforce said:
1. Don't cut if you can't weight train. If the body has no need to keep the muscle it will get rid of it.
I thought the way to cut up would be to lose weight and lose BF % then lift weights to get more cut? are you saying you have to lift weights while trying to lose weight and cut up? Im trying to lose alot of weight but im not lifting a whole lot. only to maintain strength.
 

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El Don said:
I thought the way to cut up would be to lose weight and lose BF % then lift weights to get more cut? are you saying you have to lift weights while trying to lose weight and cut up? Im trying to lose alot of weight but im not lifting a whole lot. only to maintain strength.
Actually, if you want to look more muscular, lifting won't hurt whether you're cutting or bulking. It will always help.

Remember, bigger muscles burn more calories, so losing bodyfat will be easier if you lift.
 

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Adone said:
Why hasn't anybody thought about implementing it for other exercises and muscle groups? What do you think?
How big your forearms & calves turn out is highly influenced by genetics. This is also why it's hard to overtrain both muscle groups, hence why trying to use this method on lets say your biceps or triceps may lead to more diminishing results than gains. Also some mucles respond better to higher reps (abs, calves, forearms and biceps to an extent).
 

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[S]alvatore said:
How big your forearms & calves turn out is highly influenced by genetics. This is also why it's hard to overtrain both muscle groups, hence why trying to use this method on lets say your biceps or triceps may lead to more diminishing results than gains. Also some mucles respond better to higher reps (abs, calves, forearms and biceps to an extent).
Ok, I didn't think about this, thank you very much for saving my bigger muscle groups from death:)
 
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