BPH
Master Don Juan
I know the answer is probably "do nothing", but I wanted to present another little report from a night out and see if any of you more experienced guys can read between the lines on it.
Fair warning, this will probably be a long read because I think the details matter.
So rewind to about 3 or 4 weeks ago and I meet this girl Emily at the bar. I thought she was kinda cute but I didn't really think about approaching her till I saw her just staring and smiling at me.
Talked a little bit, had a brief conversation before the bar closed, and got her number before she left. She told me was going to a party and would text me to join her. That was short-lived because she texted me saying she'll let me know when she knows, but I never received a follow-up. I don't vividly remember whether I followed up with her 1 more time a few days later because at some point I wrote her off and just deleted the number and cleared the conversation.
I found her on Instagram by searching her name and she was a bit covered up when I met her but on socials, she's got a pretty rockin body. So I was excited but disappointed because I figured that would be it.
Then last night, I run into her at the same bar a couple of minutes before closing. She was excited to see me, all smiles introduced me to her girlfriend, etc. and I told her I was surprised she was happy to see me because I figured she just wasn't interested. She explains that it was a frat party that night and me being a guy, probably wouldn't be allowed in.
I asked her if she had an OnlyFans because I "stumbled across her" on Instagram. I guess that was made by somebody else because she showed me hers and followed me with it. Still has a rockin body and apparently 30,000 followers...
Anyway, so I take her to a side bar with me away from her friend to grab a drink and chat a little bit. The conversation is going well, we're having fun, and I decide to go in for the kiss. At first, she turns away, mentioning that she would feel weird about it because she claims she's going through a breakup with her boyfriend but he won't answer the phone for her to end it, as she proceeds to show me a bunch of unanswered texts and calls to somebody named "mal" (don't worry, this will matter in a moment).
So I tell her that if she's going to break up with him, why does it matter what he thinks of her making out with another guy? She says "good point" and we make out for a little bit. She's a good kisser, so probably not a goodie-goodie, and I suggest leaving. She tells me where she lives and I mention that my car is right outside and I'd be happy to give her a ride.
At this point she starts showing a few objections; she says her room is really messy and doesn't want to feel embarassed by me coming, she says she doesn't know me that well and "how do I know you're not like Ted Bundy or something", to which I call over my bouncer friend at that bar and say "hey JR, am I a murderer?" to which the drunken moron jokingly responds "oh yeah he's the absolute worst" as he stumbles around. So she apologizes profusely and tells me she pinky promises me that next weekend when she has time to clean everything up we can hang out, just not tonight.
We walk back to her friends, they're gone, probably assuming she had left with me. I give her the offer one more time to drop her off and she politely declines and tells me she promises next weekend. I give her a kiss before she leaves and tell her to text me because I didn't have her number saved from last time, to which she replies with a big smile "yes daddy". I don't get a text so an hour later when I get home I send her a DM with my phone number and the message "have a good night gorgeous".
So, this morning, a few things. First, she hadn't read the DM (probably partly because she has 30,000 followers spamming them), I haven't gotten a text, and she did post on the Instagram. Second, that "mal" from earlier, I notice in one of her recent pictures with her friend she has her tagged, that GIRL'S name is Mal. Meaning she either lied about the boyfriend or wasn't showing me the right person's calls/texts/whatever.
I shared my recap with another friend of mine who's good with women and he believes she lied about the boyfriend and made up excuses to not go home with me because she liked me, but didn't know me that well and was afraid. His recommendation was to leave it alone unless she reaches out.
There's a good chance she no longer has my number either, and the fact that she has so many followers means her DMs are probably flooded. I suppose I could try to add her Snapchat or something, but that might be doing too much. The best advice is usually the one where you show the least interest, but I wanted to share this story and see what some of you more experienced guys recommend I do in this situation, if anything.
Fair warning, this will probably be a long read because I think the details matter.
So rewind to about 3 or 4 weeks ago and I meet this girl Emily at the bar. I thought she was kinda cute but I didn't really think about approaching her till I saw her just staring and smiling at me.
Talked a little bit, had a brief conversation before the bar closed, and got her number before she left. She told me was going to a party and would text me to join her. That was short-lived because she texted me saying she'll let me know when she knows, but I never received a follow-up. I don't vividly remember whether I followed up with her 1 more time a few days later because at some point I wrote her off and just deleted the number and cleared the conversation.
I found her on Instagram by searching her name and she was a bit covered up when I met her but on socials, she's got a pretty rockin body. So I was excited but disappointed because I figured that would be it.
Then last night, I run into her at the same bar a couple of minutes before closing. She was excited to see me, all smiles introduced me to her girlfriend, etc. and I told her I was surprised she was happy to see me because I figured she just wasn't interested. She explains that it was a frat party that night and me being a guy, probably wouldn't be allowed in.
I asked her if she had an OnlyFans because I "stumbled across her" on Instagram. I guess that was made by somebody else because she showed me hers and followed me with it. Still has a rockin body and apparently 30,000 followers...
Anyway, so I take her to a side bar with me away from her friend to grab a drink and chat a little bit. The conversation is going well, we're having fun, and I decide to go in for the kiss. At first, she turns away, mentioning that she would feel weird about it because she claims she's going through a breakup with her boyfriend but he won't answer the phone for her to end it, as she proceeds to show me a bunch of unanswered texts and calls to somebody named "mal" (don't worry, this will matter in a moment).
So I tell her that if she's going to break up with him, why does it matter what he thinks of her making out with another guy? She says "good point" and we make out for a little bit. She's a good kisser, so probably not a goodie-goodie, and I suggest leaving. She tells me where she lives and I mention that my car is right outside and I'd be happy to give her a ride.
At this point she starts showing a few objections; she says her room is really messy and doesn't want to feel embarassed by me coming, she says she doesn't know me that well and "how do I know you're not like Ted Bundy or something", to which I call over my bouncer friend at that bar and say "hey JR, am I a murderer?" to which the drunken moron jokingly responds "oh yeah he's the absolute worst" as he stumbles around. So she apologizes profusely and tells me she pinky promises me that next weekend when she has time to clean everything up we can hang out, just not tonight.
We walk back to her friends, they're gone, probably assuming she had left with me. I give her the offer one more time to drop her off and she politely declines and tells me she promises next weekend. I give her a kiss before she leaves and tell her to text me because I didn't have her number saved from last time, to which she replies with a big smile "yes daddy". I don't get a text so an hour later when I get home I send her a DM with my phone number and the message "have a good night gorgeous".
So, this morning, a few things. First, she hadn't read the DM (probably partly because she has 30,000 followers spamming them), I haven't gotten a text, and she did post on the Instagram. Second, that "mal" from earlier, I notice in one of her recent pictures with her friend she has her tagged, that GIRL'S name is Mal. Meaning she either lied about the boyfriend or wasn't showing me the right person's calls/texts/whatever.
I shared my recap with another friend of mine who's good with women and he believes she lied about the boyfriend and made up excuses to not go home with me because she liked me, but didn't know me that well and was afraid. His recommendation was to leave it alone unless she reaches out.
There's a good chance she no longer has my number either, and the fact that she has so many followers means her DMs are probably flooded. I suppose I could try to add her Snapchat or something, but that might be doing too much. The best advice is usually the one where you show the least interest, but I wanted to share this story and see what some of you more experienced guys recommend I do in this situation, if anything.
