Good move or bad?

411826

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How's it going guys? First time poster, long time reader.

Today I broke up with my girlfriend from a long term relationship, to me, she had no future and that she would just drag me down as all I did was support her. She convinced me to meet her in person and we talked and I ended up taking her back, on two conditions:

We go back to the way we were at the beginning of the relationship where we only see each other for once every two weeks, and talk on the phone more than we text.

And that she has a plan for the future for herself (IE college, job, all that good stuff) and to follow through with her promises to prove me wrong.

She agreed and now I am back on top of the relationship where things were equal where when she wants to hang out, we have to hang out, and she would be pissed if we didn't and just things that put me in a bad position as a DJ.

Is it a good move to take her back?
 

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Welcome to the forum!

As you probably know, the advice we give here is based on the principle that you "buy"--not "build" a relationship. You probably have already observed the fact that people (with very few exceptions) do NOT change; as such, you should treat any flaws in your significant other as permanent.

To answer your question, you should expect to receive a unanimous vote for "bad move" on this board. Your girlfriend will NOT change her ways and will slip back into her old habits. You will likely break up with her again and repeat the charade, until you finally become convinced that you can do better and put your foot down. After that point, you probably won't even think of your ex, other than to question your past judgement and regret wasting so much of your life on such a lost cause. Human behavior is rather predictable!

I'm of the opinion that experience is the only true teacher, so it's not the worst thing in the world if you "try to make things work" to no avail. But, PLEASE use protection in case she tries to "trap" you.
 
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Rubato

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411826 said:
First time poster, long time reader.
My point is not to be a d1ck here. I hate it when people answer my questions in a way that's insulting. But based on the rest of your message, I would suggest reading the DJ bible (again if you have already read it.... it's quite long) and the Book of Pook (also long... but amazing). It doesn't sound like you've internalized a lot of the concepts in those books and on this forum. But don't worry.... it takes a long time and definitely more than just reading.... action is the operand word.

411826 said:
Today I broke up with my girlfriend from a long term relationship, to me, she had no future and that she would just drag me down as all I did was support her. She convinced me to meet her in person and we talked and I ended up taking her back
Given what you just said - that according to you, the only person in this circumstance that it should matter to, she had NO future and was dragging you down while you supported her. It sounds like she offered you nothing while you offered her everything. A low value girl.


411826 said:
on two conditions:

We go back to the way we were at the beginning of the relationship where we only see each other for once every two weeks, and talk on the phone more than we text.

And that she has a plan for the future for herself (IE college, job, all that good stuff) and to follow through with her promises to prove me wrong.
That's definitely more than 2 conditions.

1st, do you really think after a breakup that it's possible to erase all of the trust violations that have taken place. Forget about her right now. Think about yourself. What motivated you to break up with her in the first place, and how much of it has changed? Has any of it changed? Probably not.

And really bro, do you want a relationship governed by BS rules like that? You're limiting yourself to sex with the girl once every 14 days and in effect, agreeing to spend more time texting her and talking to her on the phone than you would be banging her or getting head. Why is that a favorable for you in any way? I don't think you actually like this girl because if you did, that wouldn't be an acceptable agreement. And a man wouldn't make an "agreement" with his woman anyway. That's the kind of sh1t a woman would do.

On your second portion of agreement, you're failing to realize that people rarely permanently change. How old is this girl? If she's old enough for you to legally have sex with, she's probably old enough that any change she makes will be temporary and NOT permanently substantive. Some people get weird about pegging people in to permanent categories like that, but it's a generalization that works. Think about how many people you know who have actually made substantive permanent changes in their lives absent severe consequences (jail, the end of a gun, the threat of death) as compared to those who have not.

This is a fool's bet.

411826 said:
She agreed and now I am back on top of the relationship where things were equal where when she wants to hang out, we have to hang out, and she would be pissed if we didn't and just things that put me in a bad position as a DJ.

Is it a good move to take her back?
NO

Just reread what you read and look at how many rationalizations it took you to justify taking the girl back. Relationships are not about equality, but are about you asserting yourself as a man and finding a feminine woman who understands the harmonious relationship between the gender bipoles (consciously or unconsciously). You are not in any position as a DJ because Don Juan would never have put up with such BS behavior from a girl. In the time it took you to make this post, Don Juan would have been in bed with another woman, probably someone hotter and who treated him better.

It's hard to ask questions like this dude.... I welcome you to our community and don't want you to be put off by my honesty. You asked a question, and I don't feel like it's very respectful not to answer in full honesty.
 

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Rubato said:
My point is not to be a d1ck here. I hate it when people answer my questions in a way that's insulting. But based on the rest of your message, I would suggest reading the DJ bible (again if you have already read it.... it's quite long) and the Book of Pook (also long... but amazing). It doesn't sound like you've internalized a lot of the concepts in those books and on this forum. But don't worry.... it takes a long time and definitely more than just reading.... action is the operand word.



Given what you just said - that according to you, the only person in this circumstance that it should matter to, she had NO future and was dragging you down while you supported her. It sounds like she offered you nothing while you offered her everything. A low value girl.




That's definitely more than 2 conditions.

1st, do you really think after a breakup that it's possible to erase all of the trust violations that have taken place. Forget about her right now. Think about yourself. What motivated you to break up with her in the first place, and how much of it has changed? Has any of it changed? Probably not.

And really bro, do you want a relationship governed by BS rules like that? You're limiting yourself to sex with the girl once every 14 days and in effect, agreeing to spend more time texting her and talking to her on the phone than you would be banging her or getting head. Why is that a favorable for you in any way? I don't think you actually like this girl because if you did, that wouldn't be an acceptable agreement. And a man wouldn't make an "agreement" with his woman anyway. That's the kind of sh1t a woman would do.

On your second portion of agreement, you're failing to realize that people rarely permanently change. How old is this girl? If she's old enough for you to legally have sex with, she's probably old enough that any change she makes will be temporary and NOT permanently substantive. Some people get weird about pegging people in to permanent categories like that, but it's a generalization that works. Think about how many people you know who have actually made substantive permanent changes in their lives absent severe consequences (jail, the end of a gun, the threat of death) as compared to those who have not.

This is a fool's bet.



NO

Just reread what you read and look at how many rationalizations it took you to justify taking the girl back. Relationships are not about equality, but are about you asserting yourself as a man and finding a feminine woman who understands the harmonious relationship between the gender bipoles (consciously or unconsciously). You are not in any position as a DJ because Don Juan would never have put up with such BS behavior from a girl. In the time it took you to make this post, Don Juan would have been in bed with another woman, probably someone hotter and who treated him better.

It's hard to ask questions like this dude.... I welcome you to our community and don't want you to be put off by my honesty. You asked a question, and I don't feel like it's very respectful not to answer in full honesty.
No bro, I actually smiled through your whole post, thank you. From the things she does that piss me off (which I don't show that I am bothered by it) is that she likes to party and get pissed drunk, she believes getting high is one of the best experiences, and she talks about guys in front of me. Again, I don't over react on any of this.

Only reason why I say I want to go back to set rules is to give me the upper hand, back then it was more simpler than it is today, where I found no reason to break up with her. I get that I should be doing her, so maybe Ill ease up on the 2 week rule, and I understand that I'm in the position of wasting my time. Just that, this girl is great beyond all that, so I'll just do the sane thing and see other women on the side and when I am ready to move on, Ill pull the trigger on this relationship. Thank you for your help sirs.
 
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