Goldman Sachs promoting more men

[BetterCallSaul]

This is yet another example of women who claim discrimination and/or harassment when it suits them. Read this article:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-02/goldman-sachs-boy-s-club-accused-of-mocking-women.html

Now for those who aren't familiar, Goldman is one of the top financial securities industry company in the world. Most new employees are typically in their 20s and early 30s, probably 60-70% male I would guess and Goldman is renowned for lavish bonuses to their top performing employees. In exchange, yes, people do have to work hard there which can include long hours and giving up a lot of free time you may have in your life.

So back to this story, the crux of these women's complaints boils down to the following:

1) Being called 'bimbos' at work
2) Not earning as much as men in comparable positions
3) Being passed over for promotions
4) Men fraternizing with each other, creating a "boys club" atmosphere
5) Men going to strip clubs
6) Men taking some clients to strip clubs

The only legitimate problem I see here, if proven, is #1. Calling people names of any kind in the workplace is definitely unprofessional and can be construed as harassment so to the younger folks on the board just keep your mouth shut even when the other person is wrong or instigating the problem. As for the rest of these complaints, these women prove they are vindictive simply based on the accusations they have leveled.

I would suggest they each need to take an introductory course on economics to learn how a capitalist society works in a [somewhat] free market. An employer is free to reward the employees they choose based on whatever criteria they want. You don't like it? Find a different employer who respects you and rewards you more. Have they considered the possibility they were simply not as good as the men working in similar positions, thus why the men were compensated more?

As for men going to strip clubs, who cares. How is this the company's problem? Whether they go there after work or during lunch, who cares? You take offense to men going to strip clubs? Will you sue every other men who has ever stepped foot in one too?

These women are examples of feminist thinking that seeks to emasculate the providing power men traditionally command simply because they either can't compete in the same area and/or they have a strong sense of entitlement that many would argue is more commonly found in younger generations today.

 

[ArcBound]

My best friend from highschool went to work at a financial company. He makes bank but works like 80+ hour weeks. The company caters them food so they don't have to leave for lunch or dinner lol

Had another friend who worked at Goldman Sachs out of college. She had time for spelunking, going out to extravagant dinners with friends and having time off.

1) Being called 'bimbos' at work
If you are high on the corporate chain you have learned a long time ago, being politically collect does not help you in business transactions. Must of the men discarded that a long time ago to get to where they are.

2) Not earning as much as men in comparable positions
If they slave themselves to 80+ workweeks as some of the men do, then they will. Most do not want to, and that is completely understandable. As is their pay.


3) Being passed over for promotions
See above. Do you want that man who is going to slave over all the work you give him as your personal b!tch or the woman who takes more time to get it done, and may take maternity leave, or permanent leave after she gets children?

4) Men fraternizing with each other, creating a "boys club" atmosphere
This is due to many factors. 1) Half of the girls find financial people sexually repulsive and see them as invisible. 2) Most women don't want to go into the industry. The ones that do, do not rise up as far due to the reasons listed in number 3. So the guys fraternize with each other out of necessity not want.

5) Men going to strip clubs
See above. Corporate culture is extremely stressful and a lot of people go drinking with co-workers as soon as work ends. That drinking culture sometimes leads to people going to strip clubs.

6) Men taking some clients to strip clubs
Alcohol + sexy women. What better way to loosen up male clients? Not to mention scientific studies have shown, that when men are in the presence of beautiful women, they think stupid. This is a total business move.

 

[Vice]

If you are high on the corporate chain you have learned a long time ago, being politically collect does not help you in business transactions. Must of the men discarded that a long time ago to get to where they are.

Can you elaborate on this point a little more? I believe anyone in college or starting their own business can benefit from what you have to say about this subject.