Gold Diggers

[spanky]

Any of you have much experience in dealing with these freaks? I am pretty sure I am dealing with one now and dismissing her but looking to learn about others experience in this area.


I am in a pretty prestigious profession that will put me into the top 5%, as far as income is concerned, in a couple of years. My salary goes up significantly each year. Now, I have to watch my back for b*****s who are looking for a free ride. On the plus side, I don't have much trouble with getting dates but on the downside, I don't know who to trust.

BTW, the freak that I speak of above, actually makes more than me presently but I will leave her in the dust in a couple of years and she knows this. She is quite materialistic.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

You need to be able to to read body langauge and facial expressions pretty well. For most guys, this doesn't come natural (unless you are a world class poker player).

Learn to drop hints that money is not important to you. Go to eat in cheap places and hint that you feel more comfortable in places like that. Mention in passing that you sometimes think about how to give all your dough to charity and work for habitat for humanity in timbuktu or something, and see how she responds.

Bottom line, determine your criteria for a woman, and determine how you will casually and covertly test her to see if she meets that criteria.

 

[Heretolearn]

a saying from my mum - not what you have but what you do with it.

Dont judge on what they have (girls) but what they do with it and how they treat themselves and you (expectations about money etc).

eg. are they as happy with you if you buy $10 dinner as when you get $100 dinner (to a degree)

 

[sodbuster]

www.the highachiever.com has a whole system for sale[haven't bought it, so I can't advise you on its worth]. It covers attraction,prenuptuals,offshore trusts etc. Pretty spendy though. Not to mention the costs of setting up the trusts etc.[about $20,000 for the offshore trusts]

For my personal experience, materialistic women are bad news[golddigger or not]. If she already knows what you do, can't help you out. BUT if she won't notice you until she finds out you are a guy with initials behind his name. Bail. If she is interested and talks,then finds out you are high income,thats just normal to move you up a notch. I mean, If I'm interested in a woman;then find out she's High income;just more interested because she's higher quality.

If you want to play the game, introduce yourself "hi I'm doc- ****, sorry HI I'm sodbuster" She heard DOC,will think you just slipped and life just gets easier in the pickup game[not that I've ever done it :^)]

 

[Hooligan Harry]

Higher income women are higher quality?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

All the traits that make a good woman a good woman will very rarely be apparent in a woman who one considers high income. It takes testosterone to make money. High income women are generally ball busting ego maniacal *****s.

Stick to the farm girls.

 

[Alexander the Great]

Ever heard of The Prince And The Pauper? Or the tale of the prince who posed as a bard man to find out what the princess who was his-wife-to-be but whom he had never met before was like to her people?

I do this all the time. I pretend to be making do. Of course, I really am right now. But when I was doing really well, I would. In my experience, those out for money or prestige show themselves very clearly to you because you're clearly not what thy're looking for and it shows. How ugly does it make them!

Be the pauper and you'll find a princess. Well, if you're looking for the sort of princess that doesn't care about money, prestige or things.

Being the pauper of course doesn't mean you dress in rags and smell. Just don't flaunt it. Keep it to yourself. Dress nice but not overly expensive. Lay off the obvious brands and such. Like was suggested: eat at "normal" places. Don't drive a fancy car. Don't carry the most expensive cell (well,maybe that's possible; explain it with saying that you like gadgets ). Be a little obfustcated and circumstantial about the work you do. Never, ever speak of money other than saying that other things are important to you (as was also suggested already). And maybe you can be that bard; women digg musicians and artists can be poor. Just make sure she isn't a groupie then.

Good luck finding the real princess; in character and not just in name.

 

[sodbuster]

To me, high income shows she has a brain and isn't afraid to use it. We are talking initial conversations here,after that, it's how I'm treated.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

To me, high income shows she has a brain and isn't afraid to use it. We are talking initial conversations here,after that, it's how I'm treated.

What if she has a degree in philosophy or a PHD in physics but chooses to teach or lecture instead. Income will be poor wont it? What if (and I rarely come across them) you come meet a high powered career girl who does not even mention her line of work or success?

Nah dude. If I have learned one thing its that there is very little correlation between intelligence and income. That goes across the board for men and women. While few idiots are ever going to be very wealthy unless born into it, some of the most intelligent people I have ever met have been people who had menial jobs. I have a cousin who is a genius and worth millions. He baths maybe once a week, is overweight and has a beard down to his gut.

Sorry pal. You cannot judge a mans intelligence by the level of their income. Just like you cant judge a woman. One thing that is universal though is that people with more money have higher expectations, women even more so. The more money she has got, the more money you better have. The more money she has made? Good luck dealing with that wonderful character.

Dont make the same mistake women make by judging people based on superficial aspects. For all you know that janitor might have an IQ of a 150 yet had to leave school when he was young to help his sick mother. That multi millionaire you know may have been fortunate enough to have been born into money which provided an excellent education and more open doors.

 

[azanon]

Any of you have much experience in dealing with these freaks? I am pretty sure I am dealing with one now and dismissing her but looking to learn about others experience in this area.


I am in a pretty prestigious profession that will put me into the top 5%, as far as income is concerned, in a couple of years. My salary goes up significantly each year. Now, I have to watch my back for b*****s who are looking for a free ride. On the plus side, I don't have much trouble with getting dates but on the downside, I don't know who to trust.

BTW, the freak that I speak of above, actually makes more than me presently but I will leave her in the dust in a couple of years and she knows this. She is quite materialistic.

Bone this girl if you want, but definitely don't marry her. Use protection, etc.

So do you have a high net worth, or just a nice income for the time being? IMO, it's not possible for her to "gold dig" if only the latter applies to you.

As far as money goes, its not what you make, its what you keep. If you don't believe me, go ask Mike Tyson, M.C. Hammer, Michael Jackson, or Ed McMahon or 100s of other examples here.

 

[Andy_Dufresne]

A woman who is materialistic is (psychologically) looking for protection. Essentially it is the cart before the horse theory - she will view material wealth as a sign that if she sees a rich guy...the assumption is that he has what it takes to protect her more so than the guy who displays leadership skills but has yet to attain wealth.

The interesting thing here - I've been with a couple of women from very wealthy families. In these case they're already protected - the understand the intracacies and the problems of the wealthy, and they are more inclined to respond to a man with good social and leadership skills more than anything else.

I think gold diggers would eventually respond the same way; turn your alpha game up several notches, go out and take some risks... and you'll see the difference when you come across this type.

 

[spanky]

Bone this girl if you want, but definitely don't marry her. Use protection, etc.

So do you have a high net worth, or just a nice income for the time being? IMO, it's not possible for her to "gold dig" if only the latter applies to you.

As far as money goes, its not what you make, its what you keep. If you don't believe me, go ask Mike Tyson, M.C. Hammer, Michael Jackson, or Ed McMahon or 100s of other examples here.

Oh, we were well into the boning stage and I remember one time when we didn't used a condom and I pulled out and she asked "why did you do that?" I was like "WTF? Why would it matter if I came in you or not unless..."

IMO, you don't need a high net worth to attract a gold digger. If you just bring a high enough income home to help support their extravagant lifetsyles and they can avoid spending their own cash, they are cool with that. These freaks can be patient too.


Anyone with some personal stories of dealing with these type of women?

 

[azanon]

IMO, you don't need a high net worth to attract a gold digger. If you just bring a high enough income home to help support their extravagant lifetsyles and they can avoid spending their own cash, they are cool with that. These freaks can be patient too.

I agree, so let me rephrase.

Someone that doesn't have a high net worth has less to fear than someone who does, regardless of income. If you married her and the two of you didn't have kids then subsequently divorced, then she's not going to be able to walk away with very much. But if you have a cool million (or more) in the bank/invested, you stand to lose a lot.

TBH, i'm not sure if i could recommend marriage for someone who was wealthy (by my definition). Heck, I'm not sure I could recommend it for anyone that has exceeded 250K in net worth. I could only recommend this if a rock-solid prenup were drafted and put into place.

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I think its ok for a woman to value you for being financially adept ... to a certain extent. Only a very foolish, potential "trophy wife" would settle for a broke man.

Laddertheory.com supports the fact that money is a huge factor for women. Facts are facts. Best to just deal with this reality as wisely as possible.

 

[slaog]

Beware women who talks about the price of things! Also women who have expensive tastes and those who inquire about your wealthy either directly or indirectly. The real gold diggers won't waste much time inquiring about your wealth.


I also agree that it's better to not display your wealth and not tell how much you earn.

The interesting thing here - I've been with a couple of women from very wealthy families. In these case they're already protected - the understand the intracacies and the problems of the wealthy, and they are more inclined to respond to a man with good social and leadership skills more than anything else.
I think gold diggers would eventually respond the same way; turn your alpha game up several notches, go out and take some risks... and you'll see the difference when you come across this type.

Exactly! Alot depends on their upbringing. I also think that intelligent people are less concerned about a persons wealth in general ie it's not that big of a deal.


I know an East European girl who I dated who is looking to branch swing. She was in a relationship with a 51 year old millionaire who she describes as "ugly" looking but he takes her to places on holidays. She doesn't mind that he lives with his wife.


The ironic thing is she was talking about how a woman approached the millionaire one day when she was there and gave the millionaire her number. She said it was because he was wearing an expensive gold watch and the other woman was only interested because of the money he has. And there I was astonished she said that while at the same time she's basically using him to go on expensive holidays to 5 star hotels around the world! She now has expensive tasted despite coming from a poor country.


Compare her with a German girl I know who likes to go shopping but never mentions money and seems to have a better understanding of the real value of money.

 

[Vulpine]

Disregard this issue. You are a man living whatever life you choose. Spend whatever amount of money you want; do whatever you want.

I agree. Since gold-diggers are looking for money, I personally classify them as prostitutes. And, since I don't pay for things that I can get for free, prostitutes are of no concern to me.

The same is true of strippers. I don't need to pay money to see a woman naked, so they are of no concern.

Strippers, prostitutes, and gold-diggers all provide services that I don't require, so I don't need to bother worrying them.

Say you are walking through the supermarket, and you realize you are in the "feminine hygiene" aisle. Do you freak out about it? "OMG! Tampons! Doooooshes?! MAXIPADS!!! AAAAARRRRGGGH!"

No, you just go to another aisle.

Am I over-simplifying the issue? Are gold-diggers something I should be concerned about? Well, since I don't attract them (by design), no.

I remember reading in several places here "dress in name brand clothes, wear nice shoes, wear an expensive watch". At the time, I saw the logic, but later realized that sort of approach was counter-productive. Just as with fishing, you have to match your bait to the fish you are looking to catch.

Some lures are meant to catch fisherman, not fish. Fish eat bugs, worms, or other fish; so, logic would say to present them with bugs and worms to eat - not a gold watch or Lamborghini. Of course, some fish will bite out of pure aggression. So, you'll catch some fish on crazy baits, but they probably won't be very tasty, the meat will be full of bones, or they will be more hassle then they are worth overall. Your "aggressive" fish is a "masculine" fish, and their value is only sport or trophy (see also: sport ƒucking; trophy wife).

Catching gold-diggers? Change your bait.

 

[sodbuster]

Well, I sure as hell wouldn't jump on farm girls thinking they are the answer. they can come out of a small pond thinking they are a big fish. They go to college and findout there are alot of fish;they run back home and get knocked up by the rich farmers son who thinks he landed a prize.

You missed my point. I said has a brain and "isn't afraid to use it". The menial laborers you mention having brains and are so intelligent-don't seem to use it. Either they don't actually have it and don't want to play with the big boys[maybe be exposed as a poser] or they are lazy[if you have a 150 IQ there WILL BE a way for you to get a degree, a better job, and move up the employment ladder]. I've had women with IQ's in the 140's apply for a job as my receptionist(hell, they could have been my partner with that level). When I called their references, they were FIRED from their last job because they were too slow and didn't get enough work done[competing against IQ's in the 100 range?]. The degree of lazy showed up in her body also[300 lbs].

As far as a teacher, after getting the job, WHEN do they use their brains? Research? maybe. Teaching and testing out of a book? saying the same things and doing the same things for 40 years? Never letting any idea other than the company line in his head? Sorry, I've known teachers who left teaching and were too stupid to be farmers[lucky he married rich].