going to party as "first date" ?

[white_hype]

heres the story

last friday i met a HB8.5 (she is ridiculously hot and i have very very high standards, most of the girls you guys think are 8's i think are 7's at best, etc, no offense though)
anyways, so i chat with her for like 1hr (i dont remember how long, i was wasted) and dont really remember too much of what was said... but as she was leaving i got her number

now this was at a PARTY where there was like 100 ppl there, with dancing (frat party) i was thinking of calling her on monday or tuesday and asking her to either come to another party on friday with me (and to the pre party and someones apartment, btw if i do this should i go pick her up?) or should i take her out on thursday and get something to eat (rather not do an action date cause it will be hot and ill sweat my balls off)

what do you guys think?

oh btw at this party there will be tons of guys there so she will probably get hit on a lot and she is a freshman and isnt from the city the college is in (shes from a small town and im a soph) so she will probably go to other parties and meet guys there anyway

 

[deeman]

most of the girls you guys think are 8's i think are 7's at best, etc, no offense though)

wateevvvaaaa

just kidding. Hey man , I wouldnt take her to another party for the first date, like you said other dudes may hit on her too and you may not have secured your place with her yet so it would be a little shacky.

I would say take out for coffee or a meal (preferably mac donalds, or wendys if you feel like going all out ) use some techniques to elevate her intrest in you, then during the date (if it looks like its going well) tell her about the party coming up. Let us know how it goes.

 

[dionysius_d]

first date.. go somewhere you can talk and get to know each other.. not a rave or a mega party.

 

[white_hype]

yea i guess i already knew the answer, but thx for reinforcing it guys

i think ill take her to a nice restaurant with a good atmosphere thats not too expensive (around 6$ entrees or something) (should i pay for this?, im thinking about paying for it then maybe giving her some CF saying how i cant believe im paying, usually the girls pay for me or something, what would you guys do here?)

or do you think an action date is really that important
(or should i do both?)

your opinions are appreciated!

 

[white_hype]

oh and thing about my high scale

not all of you but ive seen some where guys post pictures of girls that are "super hot hb8.5" and they are ugly and borderline 6.5's

and everyone says how this chick is a 9, or perfect 10... and i think to myself, ive only seen like 2 9.25-9.5's in my entire life and ive been at a miss texas pagent and i go to UT and see loads of hot chicks everywhere, and perfect 10 doesnt exist

 

[Pimp-sicle]

white hype: Sounds like you read my thread on the fuked up scales on these boards. I'm just like you, I rarely see a HB9.5 or 10 and I'm at a lost for words when some of the guys on this board post pics of 6-7's claiming to be 9's. Oh well, guess that just leaves the REAL 8's, 9's, 10's for us "picky guys"

Anyway, back to your situation. First of all the only thing you have established is you think this girl is a SHB. You talked to her for an hour while you were faded at a party. How would you judge her IL in you? Because talking to a girl for an hour is too long IMHO anywhere, let alone at a party where you should be walking around talking to as many babes as you can. Anyway here's your options as I see it:


coffee: You probably don't remember too much of what you said since you were drunk as fuvk. So coffee might be a good idea because you can actually see if there is any substance behind the beauty. See if she's actually interesting or just one of those "I get by on my looks" chicks. BTW what the fuvk are yo thinking when you said you'll pay??? And DON'T SAY I USUALLY HAVE THE GIRL PAY FOR ME!! That's indirectly telling her that your putting her on a pedastal already and you like her. She will completely have you by the ballz if she doesn't already. Never pay until she proves her worth to you, remember that!! Just wait in line together if you go to coffee, then when its your guys turn in line, say something like "Ladies first and smirk." That's C/F, plus she has to pay for her own ****. If she pulls the bull**** excuse that she doesn't have enough money then you know she's going out with you to use you. Now I know you might be thinking, "well what's the big deal if I pay its only a few bucks??" Right!! Its not the amount of money that matters here, its the principle fact that your already supplicating to her when she hasn't done anything for you. If she does indeed say that she doesn't have enough money, say something C/F like "oohh..too bad, atleast you'll still have a great conversation with me."


Party: If you decide to take her to the party then it could be really good or really bad. Here's the reasons:


Really Good:

1-If she's into you, then you'll know it because she'll completely ignore other guys advances, dance with you and always be in your area. This could be very promising and could be an excellent night.

2-Its a lot less pressure on the both of you, because you guys met at a party, so you both know you feel comfortable with eachother in that setting and it doesn't seem like a get-together or a "date."


Really Bad:

1-If she's not completely sold on you yet, then she'll be open to all the guys who approach her. Even if she's only doing this to make you jealous, you won't really be able to tell yet since you guys barely know eachother, and this could make your inner AFC come back out to haunt you and kill your chances completely.

2-Any time you increase your competition, you increase the chances of losing your prize. Even if she was into you when you first got to the party, she could find someone else she's into a little bit more and forget about you, like people forgot about N'SYNC.


Some final tips:

-Regardless of what you choose (coffee or party) don't pick her up!!!! She's not your G/F, so stop treating her like she is. The only exception to this would be if your going to the party with a bunch of people and she's one of them. That's completely different. And if you go to coffee with her say on Thrusday, don't ask her to go to the party on Friday. Why? Because then she'll know that your WAAY into her and shel'll freak out because its only been a week!!! Girls love to wonder a little and think that when your not around that you might be with another girl. As much as they tell you they hate this, they love it, because it proves that they're intrigue in you, is validated because other girls are into you too. Here's my rule with byatches:

Sunday-Thrusday-For get-togethers with HB's.

Friday-Saturday: Time to be spent with the bros, sarging parties, meeting new HB's to put on your Hit List.



I think if you keep on analyzing this to make it "perfect" and treat her like your G/F before you even get together that she'll see right through that and ditch you like her dirty laundry.



PIMP

 

[white_hype]

thx pimp, thats some good advice

i totally agree with you on the hb 8-10 scale lol

about her IL id say its relatively high (before we talked made good EC and she was the first to smile, huge smile, but i had to take a piss so i found her later as she was walking bye me, still gave me good EC and big smile so i stopped her and chatted with her)

this is pretty much what happened after that, she had a **** block friend with her (girl, hb7 or so) which i would have gone for had her other friend not of been so much hotter (i talked to hb7 some too, convo with both went well, had them laughing, but should i have flirted more with hb7 to make hb 8.5 jealous or something? since i directed about 60% of my convo to hb 8.5)

i had to find a wingman to take away ****block (GLUED TO hb8.5)
so it wasnt a hour straight, more like 3 20 min sessions over 1.5 hrs

-i also had a girl (hb 4, complete butterface but nice body) kept trying to make me come back to her place (she litterally said this, lets go back to my place... ewww, who had messed around with my roomate 4 times last year, while i was asleep) and i had to make her leave, this might have raised hb8.5 IL, i dunno

but i will assume she has a high IL cause i am a very confident person, if not, who cares, she was good experience right?

also i dont really care if she has substance, i dont really want a girlfriend right now, but i really want to mess aroudn with this chick

also thx for the tip not paying, but i think ill take her to eat somewhere, what would i say when the check comes? cause you know they will hand the man the F'in bill

last note, i was talking to this chick for so long casue there were no other prospects (end of night, dj left, lots had already left the party)

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Why are you taking her out to eat?? That predicates that you spend 1.5-2 hours with her, which is WAAAAY TOO LONG, for a first get together. Its your call, but I think coffee for 30 minutes with a good C/F conversation is a better tatic. Hey its good that your confident and very self-assured, but don't try to hit a homerun all at once. Give a little, take a little back!! Think of this as a project.. You have to plan it, use trial and error and then decide on what works best.


If you still decide to take her out to eat somewhere, you can get up in the middle of dinner to go the "bathroom" and go walk by your waiter and tell him to bring two separate bills. I've never tried this technique cuz I don't take byatches to dinner, but I've heard it works.


Yeah you should have spent more time be-friending HB7. This will do wonders for your "girl points" because her best friend has more influence on her the a bottle of JD. Try to think of HB7 more as another voice in your bid to get in good with HB8.5 If you ignore her, she'll feel "left out" and then be more likely to ****-block because she's bored. See ("Let's go HB8.5" for reference) Whenever you spot out a HB who has her defenses up, use her friends to break her down.


If all you want to do is bang this girl a few times then I don't see why your taking her out on get togethers, just take care of business if your getting a high IL like you mentioned.


As for HB4(LOL) if she's willing to sux then no one has to know about it. Nut on he face and never talk to her again.


PIMP

 

[seulaxplaya]

dont take her to a party. Then she will associate you only with parties and for nothing else. Thus using u for the parties and never taking her out anywhere else. What you can do is take her out to where ever you chose and then be like hey feel like partying? Thats what i would do