Girls with BPD: You can't save them, don't try.

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This chic I've been seeing has this problem and I've tried my best to help her out (we f***ed already, so I don't care if she puts me in the friend zone now).

She screws with A LOT of different guys; gets wasted more than Billy Bob in "Bad Santa"; and can't seem to focus on her work. She's risking everything she's earned up to this point by putting work off to f around with other dudes and drink the night away.

Every time I try to talk to her, it's either "Ok, I understand," or "Yes, I take your advice very seriously," but she's full of crap --- ends up doing the same thing over and over again.

Frankly, at this point, I've stopped caring; stopped being the only guy around who actually gives a f about her beyond a sexual level.

If you ever encounter one of these wenches, either steer clear or just f-them, then leave. You can't save them.
 

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Originally posted by bbestar
She needs Jesus Christ
I think they need Jesus Christ, Muhammed, Buddha, Moses and whatever weird s**t Madonnas in to in order to cure them.

Been there, done that. Not again.
 

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those chicks are easily manipulated into sex slaves. Just work some game on them and keep em locked in a dungeon ready to get gang banged and facialized at a moments notice.
 

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I think the above two posters: Cool and MightyMate should stop watching gay blojob fest porn. My experience with two bipolar women has been quite negative, I think they do well with bipolar men or manic depressive men (ie. emotionally unstable men, afcs) I can still remember the hatred in those women eyes when I would say something against their will.
 

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Originally posted by DonJuanMonk
I think the above two posters: Cool and MightyMate should stop watching gay blojob fest porn. My experience with two bipolar women has been quite negative, I think they do well with bipolar men or manic depressive men (ie. emotionally unstable men, afcs) I can still remember the hatred in those women eyes when I would say something against their will.
Dont tell me who am i if You have noi idea about my life. Nahmean kid?
 

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I just got out of a relationship with a girl with BDP. I had been the best catch this girl has found so far. I was willing to help her out and see her through some of the tough issues she's delt with sexual abuse and abandonment from her father earlier in life, but she still had a serious issue with commitment.

Girls like my ex bounces from guy to guy and wonders why she can't stay single all the while wondering why she hasn't "found herself" yet. Kinda an eternal identity crisis she swears by. People like her detest reality and rather avoid responsiblity and growth (LTRs) on all counts. She used to cut herself and still punches the wall to take out her aggression when alone. Has a bizare collection of swords, knives, and weapons scattered around her town home. Also has the gender identity messed up (kisses her female roomie at parties frequently).

Her spending habits were terrible too. She just got a second job at some pet store recently so she could pay off debt from her mom who also very similiar bounces from marriage to marriage and has serious debt problems. All of these symptoms are classic cases of BPD.

Seriously, people (( RUN )) from these people when you find them. If they're not willing to help themselves first then YOU being there will only make them RESENT you more for wanting to help them resolve their issues and mature. I learned all this the hard way.

If you need a quick lay then do it, but don't expect you can turn them around into an amazing LTR. These types thrive on STRs and quick sexual encounters (NSA). They are prone to boredom, so they don't stay with one partner for very long.

I know it stinks... but that's just the way they've let their own life become. Better to walk. I think I may have a STD and not know yet (sigh...) so, yeah... wear a rubber.
 

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Originally posted by MightyMate
Dont tell me who am i if You have noi idea about my life. Nahmean kid?
yo man, share some of that crack joint
 

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I once dated one. Some similarities to other posts. I was in a 3 month relationship with one, and in the last month of dating her I did a little research on her behaviors and pathologies. It may sound a bit twisted, but I spent most of the last month analysing, studying, soliciting responses, provoaking, prodding, and antagonizing. I gave her a piece of my mind at the end.

Oh, you're right, it's next to impossible to try to help these people because they themselves genuinely believe that there's nothing wrong with them.
 

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Originally posted by Sicarius
Whats BDP mean? Is it... BPD, bipolar disorder? Or what?
Borderline Personailty Disorder, it's a type of Post Tramatic Stress Disorder.
 

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Originally posted by wowiehowie
I once dated one. Some similarities to other posts. I was in a 3 month relationship with one, and in the last month of dating her I did a little research on her behaviors and pathologies.
Lucky for you that you found out what she was while dating her. I didn't find out my ex actually had a PD until after we broke up and I researched her issues and ultimately came across BPD which damn well matches her personality(it floored me when I read the entry on wikipedia).

If I had known all these symptoms I would have given my girl a piece of my mind as well because I was used for being extremely naive and way too much of a nice guy.

It's all good though. I've completely severed any contact with her and am ignoring her advances via email/txt/roomie leaving VMs at parties.

Life does MOVE on thankfully.
 

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I'll add my agreement to this too. I'm not sure if the girls I dated had BPD, but they matched all the symptoms.

One specific girl (who I brought up a lot on this board earlier in the year) made my life a misery. She dragged me down, killed my confidence then turned on me, wouldn't stop attention seeking and even threatened me when I moved on.

Yeh they need help, but I wouldn't recommend being the guy who helps her.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Originally posted by Jariel
She dragged me down, killed my confidence then turned on me, wouldn't stop attention seeking
Weird thing with my ex is instead of wanting to grow and heal some of her issues. She focused on my insecurities and made me feel self-doubt about myself and my career direction. Essentially, made me feel like a zero even though I just grad college and had a promising start in my new career. The best thing happened when I seperated from her I realized my life wasn't that bad, that I had an awesome family, friends, career, and that I am really a great guy who is going somewhere with my life and she still hasn't done anything in college at 22.

These girls are also cunning and manipulative. They can say they love you then the next minute their hooking up with one of their many male friends because you may not be there 24/7 to give them the attention they need. If they use kino with everyone for attention infront of you all the time that's a sure sign to NEXT her!

Trust me on BPD, you don't want to date one and carry her emotional baggage, she can and will drag you down. Millions of better fish in the sea worth aiming for.
 

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Originally posted by resilient
Weird thing with my ex is instead of wanting to grow and heal some of her issues. She focused on my insecurities and made me feel self-doubt about myself and my career direction. Essentially, made me feel like a zero even though I just grad college and had a promising start in my new career. The best thing happened when I seperated from her I realized my life wasn't that bad, that I had an awesome family, friends, career, and that I am really a great guy who is going somewhere with my life and she still hasn't done anything in college at 22.

These girls are also cunning and manipulative. They can say they love you then the next minute their hooking up with one of their many male friends because you may not be there 24/7 to give them the attention they need. If they use kino with everyone for attention infront of you all the time that's a sure sign to NEXT her!

Trust me on BPD, you don't want to date one and carry her emotional baggage, she can and will drag you down. Millions of better fish in the sea worth aiming for.

A little more about my story. Yes, she tried to bring me down, but you know what, I caught myself from falling into her trap pretty early on. She would project HER insecurities onto me. For instance, what she would claim was wrong with me, would in reality be what was wrong with HER. Basically it was a easy way to find out what was wrong with her. Sometimes she'd be sweet, but most others she'd be moody, b!tchy, condesceding, judgemental etc. You NEVER knew WHO or WHAT to expect when you'd get together. Sex was strictly on her terms; only when she wanted it. This girl was very unaffectionate, unempathetic, cold, and sadly enough I really don't believe she knows how to love a man.

If you initially don't know about these things (as I didn't) you quickly becomed overwhelmed and sooner or later you think that there must be something wrong with you.

Well, this is what life thows at you sometimes. But you know what? You experience some sh!t like this and forever more you'll (hopefully) never fall into a situation like ever again.


"Experience is a great teacher, but she sends heavy bills"
 

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BPD = borderline personality disorder
BD = bipolar disorder
She screws with A LOT of different guys; gets wasted more than Billy Bob in "Bad Santa"; and can't seem to focus on her work. She's risking everything she's earned up to this point by putting work off to f around with other dudes and drink the night away.
That would seem to be more along the lines of bipolar than borderline. With bipolar, you get hypersexuality, an inability to focus on one thing (among other things), and at heart of the disorder they fundamentally cannot regulate emotions. I forget the medical terminology but the part of the brain responsible for regulating emotions is just not there for them. Absent of medicine, everything they do is in the extreme. With hypersexuality, they are extremely sexual, and if not having sex they may masturbate twelve times a day, when manic, and become asexual when depressed. They are clinically psychotic, they experience breaks with reality.

On the other hand, having a borderline personality means being coercive and manipulative, but still in check with reality. They aren’t clinically psychotic. Think Omarosa.
If you ever encounter one of these wenches, either steer clear or just f-them, then leave. You can't save them.
For the unmedicated bipolar woman, it can be quite dangerous to f-them. Literally, do you want your house burnt down?
 

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I am BPD:D and I am more in check with reality when around others of similar mindsettings

I find it funny how you guys ***** and complain about not being able to handle these types of women, they are easy to convince of numerous things, lying with a straight face and nerves of steel are my greatest weapon against them. Never try to convince them of anything, play their games and win, manipulate them, basically.

They are simple minded in certain areas and are dead set against it, they have very strong personalities and have excellent social skills in most cases(I wouldn't talk to them otherwise) and are influenced by social status or manipulated gatherings... they are built for, and genetically submissive towards cult settings, you can find many of them in churches.

The social angels are very sexually active as most women believe themselves to be(unless you can't see past the shades) The social rebels are tough nuts to crack, but they also wrap about your fingers, the rebels prefer a method similar to gunwitch, they have a high self-value, but mostly exhbited from a low self-esteem pedestal.

Oh yeah, and bi-polars are fun, they control their surroundings, and those around them, they are THE masters of manipulation, find one who will have phone sex and you will KNOW what I am talking about. Even the simplest conversations with them when they are about to slip to one of the extremes is extremely interesting when you take the "entire world" attitude to the next level with em.
 

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Originally posted by Deep Dish
With hypersexuality, they are extremely sexual, and if not having sex they may masturbate twelve times a day, when manic, and become asexual when depressed. They are clinically psychotic, they experience breaks with reality.

On the other hand, having a borderline personality means being coercive and manipulative, but still in check with reality. They aren’t clinically psychotic.
Agh, so my ex was probably more bipolar than BDP eh? She told me she had been clinically diagnosed with depression but doesn't take any medication. She's extremely sexual, so I'm sure she's already riding some other dude. Oh well. Heh. She definately has a serious issue with reality though, that's for sure.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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