Girls still pick AFC's over DJ's

[crotchrocket]

Although it is hard to figure out why, I do see plenty of HB's choosing an obvious AFC over a DJ.

Just one example; I recently spent the day with a buddy and a couple of really cute girls we know, well one of the girls in about an eight hour period got SIX phone calls from the same guy. I know for a fact that she just started dating him about 2 weeks ago. I knew she was supposed to meet him later so I (successfully) did my best to make sure she was late, about 4 hours late in fact. Every time he called she told him "I'll call you when we're getting close", yet he kept calling. I heard him say "I miss you" to her, I just about starting laughing at this pathetic display.

Any bets on how long it is until she dumps his sorry a$$ - I give it a month!

 

[maranathaman]

She's an attention Ho...

She's just an attention Ho...
Lot's of chicks are willing to throw an afc a bone now and then
just to get their female egos stroked by the afc who kisses her feet, buys her stuff etc. But then she'll drop him in a heartbeat with no concern of the poor guy's feelings. Been there too many times! If you read this forum, however, there's no reason to allow a ho to walk all over you like that anymore.

 

[Capi Crimini]

I'll give it until you grow the balls to grab her from him...

and to make the AFC miserable enough to find this site.. then use your tactics against you.

 

[Dirtheart]

I personally believe that an AFC can attract women without too much of a problem. It's keeping her that's the issue.

You see, an AFC shows potential to be the perfect guy because women believe that they want a man who treats them well, shows them affection and is trustworthy. Ask most women about their perfect man and she'll paint a picture of a typical AFC. However, in reality, they thrive on the thrill of the chase and if they get what they "want" they get bored with it and poor Mr AFC gets kicked aside.

 

[So pimp its scary]

Let me tell you about what happens when a hot girl goes out with an AFC.

This guy will impress her with the words of his past deeds, and flatter her with attention, gifts, and become completely infatuated. The girl likes his vibe, and doesn't mind the free gifts... she may or may not give up sex very easily and will have alot less commitment then is implied in the relationship.

This continues while the AFC, deeply infatuated, becomes more and more needing of time with the girl, and eventually pushes her away with his aggressive tactics. She begins the search at this point.

Along comes a 'Don Juan' or what have you, and she will drop him like herpes (Or something that you'd wanna get rid of ASAP ) and go with this new guy that touches that unique part of what makes her a woman (over and over and over again ).

 

[Pettycoat Junction]

I'm with maranathaman 100%. She just wants a guy who will worship the ground she walks on. I'm sure every girl knows that even if she is an 8, she can't walk in public for 5 minutes without passing tons of girls just as attractive or even more attractive than her. I guess being treated like shes 'better' or 'different' than all those tons of girls really does something for the female ego. But its a user relationship and sad to see.

 

[Austin Allegro]

Damn, Dirtheart, you always seem to get to the root of the problem. I think what you said is exactly right - the reason why HBs seem initially attracted to AFCs has always been a puzzler to me.

 

[squirrels]

It's possible he was doing great with her until they actually "started dating," then he got all worried about doing what was officially and socially "right" instead of just being his natural self. We've all done it. I know I have, at least.

 

[JohnJones]

She may even be a decent girl - -she doesn't have to be an attention wh--e, she just saw a guy she thought was attractive. She may even think he's doing right by her.

She'll be really confused in a couple weeks when she starts to feel like her best friend...

 

[Tango-Kid]

In my opinion, the difference between an AFC and DJ is that an AFC is dreaming of something that he can not get, and a DJ gets everything he wants.

Hence, it´s paradoxal to think that AFC´s get what DJ`s should.

 

[NatureGuy]

Dirtheart really has it here ! And if, from a practical point of view, you apply what he has said to real relationship situations, you'll be real successful ! (start out AFC,
then provide her some chase)

 

[DJ Alejandro]

id have to disagree.

i didnt really think she "chose" to be with this guy. yes, maybe his problem really is keeping his women but that's not our problem. [excellent assessment on that.]

what comes in to mind is that has the girl had the opportunity of meeting a DJ or natural at the time she allegedly *chose* this guy?

on the contrary, i think she did choose a DJ. since crotchrocket did have her late for the next 4 hours [which would be next to impossible if she didnt *choose* him subconsciously].

but yet, maybe itz because she's in a *commitment* already that she still went to the guy despite being 4 hours late! and then the cycle repeats itself.

*she's an attention ho.

 

[crotchrocket]

Interesting discussion, I'll fill you in on more details now, and my theories on the whole thing.

When I first met her a couple months ago, she had a boyfriend (different from the one mentioned above), I think she was already bored with him because it didn't take much attention from me for her to dump him. I asked her out despite already knowing she had a man, tells me the DJ behavior is powerful indeed but I am also a little confused-one time she chooses a DJ, next time an obvious AFC, so maybe we can't assume there is ever a pattern, or maybe its just this girl?

Anyway, we had a few dates, she started calling me every other day, her AFC behaviour started turning me off and the more I backed off the more she called/messaged me. I did however give her enough attention so she didn't give up entirely. Then all of a sudden she stopped calling, I knew she was going camping with some friends, and I got the impression somebody else now had her attention. When the weekend I mentioned above came, she flirted with me all day, she would offer to go get me drinks, she was not in a hurry at all to go and meet this other guy. In fact never did she tell me she needed to go (I was driving, myself, a buddy and the 2 girls in my car).

So my theory is two-fold. #1 she is the female equivalent of AFC herself, from inexperience, her age of 20, or just her personality who knows. And given a choice this type of girl doesn't see either DJ or AFC behavior superior to the other, at first anyway.

#2 I may have played the whole DJ thing too good/too hard, therefore when another guy comes along who is AFC and shows her the attention she's looking for, sucks up to her, becomes a nice little door mat, off she goes. Possibly the attention ho thing, instant gratification sort of, less effort required than it is to get a DJ.

Thats why it will be interesting to see how long it lasts. Because clearly her interest/opinion of me hasn't changed.

 

[Tango-Kid]

Offtopic but anyways you guys seem to be doing this all the time:

she started calling me every other day, her AFC behaviour started turning me off and the more I backed off the more she called/messaged me.

(this is general) You REALLY have charts about who call you and when????

 

[Sardaukar]

To quote a master, women are like monkeys. They need to grab a new branch before letting go of the one they're holding. To get a better picture, imagine an orang-utan doing that.

 

[backbreaker]

dieheart is right, when I was a major AFC, I had little to no problem getting womens attention, it was getting to see me as a potentional BF that I had the problem with, not with the 6s and 7s but the really, really baddd women I knew. The girls that I did have I was so AFC that I lost them eventually for various reasons.