Girls at McDonald's talking about wanting a sugar daddy

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I was at McDonald's stopping in for an iced coffee. There were two pretty attractive cashiers. It was slow so I could overhear the conversation that the staff was having. One of the cashiers was saying that she was still looking for a sugar daddy. I could tell she had been on websites and she says that all the ones she had tried to meet were old or boring. There are a lot of girls looking for sugar daddies. I think this is something new and significant that should advance this community or "school of thought" or whatever you want to call this PUA/Don Juan stuff. There have been lots of new developments since "The Game" was written in 2004. The terms "SMV" and "red pill" didn't even exist back then.

I don't think it is any deficiency in my game that I have been having to pay most of the time. I think this is how the world works and maybe it's even a new trend among younger people who grew up with access to the Internet.

Sugar daddies are in high demand. It's on the tip of everyone's tongue, but it's also illegal to talk about in public.

Then, the cashier's boyfriend walked in. If I could guess the girls age, she was probably 19-23, and the guy was probably 22-24. Her boyfriend was very fat. I would call him obese. He also seemed kind of stupid, but I heard him say that he was an auto mechanic who made $15/hour. That means that he might make $35-$55k/year depending on how much he works. That's not chump change and he's obviously not totally stupid or he wouldn't be able to be an auto mechanic. I got the feeling that he was a mechanic at one of those large corporate auto mechanics. I wouldn't guess that he was the BEST auto mechanic, perhaps he just did simple oil changes and things like that. Nevertheless, auto mechanic is an occupation that I respect, so I shouldn't just overlook him as some buffoon. He definitely knows all sorts of things about auto mechanics that I don't, but I'm sure I could learn vert quickly if I were in the situation to do so.

I wonder what is the difference between him and I and why he is not stuck in the position of having to be a "sugar daddy" in order to have sex with girls most of the time.

They were both talking about the girls search for a sugar daddy. And he said that she should find one so that he could buy a new truck. Apparently, the girl would have sex with the guy and bring the money home to him so that he could spend it as he pleased. I started wondering.... who is the winner in that situation? Is it the boyfriend who is getting stuff for free, or is it the guy who is getting sex (also note that the "sugar daddy" is getting sex without the need for a relationship). Certainly you can't claim that the guy is some "king" because there is another guy fvcking his girlfriend maybe even swallowing his load. Lol. Perhaps fvcking her better than he does (definitely in my bionic case).

But then I heard the girl talking and she said she wanted a sugar daddy because she was tired of being "a broke b1tch"... so apparently it might have just been the boyfriends fantasy that she would hand the money over to him. I could not tell if they had kids together or not.

Regardless, I could have fvcked this girl if I would have had the guts to walk up to her and say "I'm a sugar daddy." Lol. I can't remember who it was, but someone on this forum asked me to give an example of offering a "normal" girl money for sex. Well, it doesn't get much more "normal" than a cashier at McDonald's. She was attractive, white, and in her early 20's and I could be fvcking her right now if I would be her sugar daddy. Not saying I would want to do that.

She also was talking about Tinder. And was saying how it was just a bunch of creeps. ONLINE DATING IS THE WAY THAT PEOPLE MEET THESE DAYS. I think the days of going out to the bar or the club and running your routines and gimmicks on people are long gone. "The Game" was written in 2004. I think this was just before FaceBook came out. I think back then, people just emailed and maybe used AOL Instant Messenger. But it was before the days of all the social media, Instagram, Snapchat, etc. So things have definitely changed and the days of Neil Strauss might be gone.

I also heard her boyfriend say that he was on probation. So was I (and worse) so I can't judge that. But the fact that he's CURRENTLY on probation and mine was in the past is the point I'm trying to make. Perhaps he is still young and immature, etc.

The girl said that all the potential sugar daddies she met were boring. How does a guy not be boring? Trips to the track to drive his Lambo? Trips around the world? Who has money for this? That's ridiculous.

This is the first time I heard girls talk about sugar daddies in public. Money would and could get pu$$y on my d1ck. These were not prostitutes. They were not walking the streets in high heels. They were not posting ads on BackPage. They were real girls with real jobs that needed money. And they were attractive. In fact, at one point it was 3 girls talking... if I had enough money, I probably could have had a 4some.

Maybe she would leave her boyfriend if she found a more successful man. That is, if they don't have kids.

Sugar daddies are in high demand. I'm not saying that I want to be one, I'm just saying that girls are looking for them actively. Money gets girls. I don't know why this is surprising. This is how it's been for 200,000 years. Females have always sought those who could provide and protect.

But do I want to be a sugar daddy? Not really. Not in some formal arrangement. I would like to actually scam girls for free sex. Lol. Get them to meet me at a hotel bar, then fvck them in the room and not contact them again. Lol. But how would I get them to drop the panties without giving a single dime ahead of time? I don't think they could be that stupid, could they?
 

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I've read about these women dating sugar daddies and it seems like the majority of them also have boyfriends. They use the sugar daddy for money and **** their actual boyfriends at home.
 
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I've read about these women dating sugar daddies and it seems like the majority of them also have boyfriends. They use the sugar daddy for money and **** their actual boyfriends at home.
From the looks of her obese boyfriend, I doubt he could fvck for very long.

But don't forget they also fvck the sugar daddy. Who is the winner in this situation?

And what does the boyfriend have that the sugar daddy doesn't that allows him to get this for free?
 

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I was at McDonald's stopping in for an iced coffee. There were two pretty attractive cashiers. It was slow so I could overhear the conversation that the staff was having. One of the cashiers was saying that she was still looking for a sugar daddy. I could tell she had been on websites and she says that all the ones she had tried to meet were old or boring. There are a lot of girls looking for sugar daddies. I think this is something new and significant that should advance this community or "school of thought" or whatever you want to call this PUA/Don Juan stuff. There have been lots of new developments since "The Game" was written in 2004. The terms "SMV" and "red pill" didn't even exist back then.

I don't think it is any deficiency in my game that I have been having to pay most of the time. I think this is how the world works and maybe it's even a new trend among younger people who grew up with access to the Internet.

Sugar daddies are in high demand. It's on the tip of everyone's tongue, but it's also illegal to talk about in public.

Then, the cashier's boyfriend walked in. If I could guess the girls age, she was probably 19-23, and the guy was probably 22-24. Her boyfriend was very fat. I would call him obese. He also seemed kind of stupid, but I heard him say that he was an auto mechanic who made $15/hour. That means that he might make $35-$55k/year depending on how much he works. That's not chump change and he's obviously not totally stupid or he wouldn't be able to be an auto mechanic. I got the feeling that he was a mechanic at one of those large corporate auto mechanics. I wouldn't guess that he was the BEST auto mechanic, perhaps he just did simple oil changes and things like that. Nevertheless, auto mechanic is an occupation that I respect, so I shouldn't just overlook him as some buffoon. He definitely knows all sorts of things about auto mechanics that I don't, but I'm sure I could learn vert quickly if I were in the situation to do so.

I wonder what is the difference between him and I and why he is not stuck in the position of having to be a "sugar daddy" in order to have sex with girls most of the time.

They were both talking about the girls search for a sugar daddy. And he said that she should find one so that he could buy a new truck. Apparently, the girl would have sex with the guy and bring the money home to him so that he could spend it as he pleased. I started wondering.... who is the winner in that situation? Is it the boyfriend who is getting stuff for free, or is it the guy who is getting sex (also note that the "sugar daddy" is getting sex without the need for a relationship). Certainly you can't claim that the guy is some "king" because there is another guy fvcking his girlfriend maybe even swallowing his load. Lol. Perhaps fvcking her better than he does (definitely in my bionic case).

But then I heard the girl talking and she said she wanted a sugar daddy because she was tired of being "a broke b1tch"... so apparently it might have just been the boyfriends fantasy that she would hand the money over to him. I could not tell if they had kids together or not.

Regardless, I could have fvcked this girl if I would have had the guts to walk up to her and say "I'm a sugar daddy." Lol. I can't remember who it was, but someone on this forum asked me to give an example of offering a "normal" girl money for sex. Well, it doesn't get much more "normal" than a cashier at McDonald's. She was attractive, white, and in her early 20's and I could be fvcking her right now if I would be her sugar daddy. Not saying I would want to do that.

She also was talking about Tinder. And was saying how it was just a bunch of creeps. ONLINE DATING IS THE WAY THAT PEOPLE MEET THESE DAYS. I think the days of going out to the bar or the club and running your routines and gimmicks on people are long gone. "The Game" was written in 2004. I think this was just before FaceBook came out. I think back then, people just emailed and maybe used AOL Instant Messenger. But it was before the days of all the social media, Instagram, Snapchat, etc. So things have definitely changed and the days of Neil Strauss might be gone.

I also heard her boyfriend say that he was on probation. So was I (and worse) so I can't judge that. But the fact that he's CURRENTLY on probation and mine was in the past is the point I'm trying to make. Perhaps he is still young and immature, etc.

The girl said that all the potential sugar daddies she met were boring. How does a guy not be boring? Trips to the track to drive his Lambo? Trips around the world? Who has money for this? That's ridiculous.

This is the first time I heard girls talk about sugar daddies in public. Money would and could get pu$$y on my d1ck. These were not prostitutes. They were not walking the streets in high heels. They were not posting ads on BackPage. They were real girls with real jobs that needed money. And they were attractive. In fact, at one point it was 3 girls talking... if I had enough money, I probably could have had a 4some.

Maybe she would leave her boyfriend if she found a more successful man. That is, if they don't have kids.

Sugar daddies are in high demand. I'm not saying that I want to be one, I'm just saying that girls are looking for them actively. Money gets girls. I don't know why this is surprising. This is how it's been for 200,000 years. Females have always sought those who could provide and protect.

But do I want to be a sugar daddy? Not really. Not in some formal arrangement. I would like to actually scam girls for free sex. Lol. Get them to meet me at a hotel bar, then fvck them in the room and not contact them again. Lol. But how would I get them to drop the panties without giving a single dime ahead of time? I don't think they could be that stupid, could they?
There is no better way to meet women than the good old face to face.
 

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This is one of the latest market trends. Why do you think I harp on MONEY so much? I figured this sh*t out a while ago.

Do looks, game and "alpha qualities" help you get laid and attract HOT women? Sure. But nothing is more consistent or more reliable than MONEY. Especially if you have those other qualities along with MONEY.

I believe this will only get worse due to the STR hook-up culture that has replaced the previous LTR culture. If a woman is going to get f*cked for a few weeks or months.. she would rather do it in a nice stylish apartment with expensive sheets and furniture than some ghetto rat invested trash heap with 3 roommates smoking pot in the living room.

In addition.. you have the student lone debt crisis going on where the "millennial generation" is broke as f*ck. Mostly WOMEN since they go to college at higher rates than men. So they graduate from college with expensive degrees and end up working as waitresses at Red Lobster while drowning in debt. By their mid 20's the broke dudes with tattoos and muscles who stretched out their vaginas in college don't cut it anymore. They need the guy with MONEY to whisk them away and save them from the HELL they live in. That is where guys like ME have major appeal.

Of course these women are not LTR material and I have NO interest in financing their lives AT ALL.. so they don't last long as plates.. BUT sex has never been easier for me to get as I've said many times and @Tenacity has the same experience.
 
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This is one of the latest market trends. Why do you think I harp on MONEY so much? I figured this sh*t out a while ago.

Do looks, game and "alpha qualities" help you get laid and attract HOT women? Sure. But nothing is more consistent or more reliable than MONEY. Especially if you have those other qualities along with MONEY.

I believe this will only get worse due to the STR hook-up culture that has replaced the previous LTR culture. If a woman is going to get f*cked for a few weeks or months.. she would rather do it in a nice stylish apartment with expensive sheets and furniture than some ghetto rat invested trash heap with 3 roommates smoking pot in the living room.

In addition.. you have the student lone debt crisis going on where the "millennial generation" is broke as f*ck. Mostly WOMEN since they go to college at higher rates than men. So they graduate from college with expensive degrees and end up working as waitresses at Red Lobster while drowning in debt. By their mid 20's the broke dudes with tattoos and muscles who stretched out their vaginas in college don't cut it anymore. They need the guy with MONEY to whisk them away and save them from the HELL they live in. That is where guys like ME have major appeal.

Of course these women are not LTR material and I have NO interest in financing their lives AT ALL.. so they don't last long as plates.. BUT sex has never been easier for me to get as I've said many times and @Tenacity has the same experience.
How exactly do you use your money to get laid?

You can see that I use it for threesomes with hot roommates.
 

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How exactly do you use your money to get laid?

You can see that I use it for threesomes with hot roommates.
By existing.
  • Nice apartment in the city.
  • Access to expensive sh*t.
  • Living in close proximity (walking distance) to both a college and many popular nightlife spots.
  • Can afford FUN things like concerts, events and traveling.
Just being more advanced than a woman alone is a huge turn on. If you seem accessible to her and not an obvious "f*ck boy" it excites her even more. I don't have a f*ck boy personality so women think I'm a "catch". What they don't realize is THEY are usually NOT a catch themselves. Hence why I've never had a long-term relationship last longer than a year. HOT women are easy to find and f*ck. HOT women that are LTR material by my criteria are unicorns.
 

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The last girl I knew with a sugar daddy was 18...and he was 70. She swore that they didn't have sex.
And you believed her?

LOL.

A lot of "sugar babies" claim they don't have SEX with their Sugar Daddies. Of course they are lying like dogs.

A man will not pay a woman just to be her BFF. He can do that for free.
 
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By existing.
  • Nice apartment in the city.
  • Access to expensive sh*t.
  • Living in close proximity (walking distance) to both a college and many popular nightlife spots.
  • Can afford FUN things like concerts, events and traveling.
Just being more advanced than a woman alone is a huge turn on. If you seem accessible to her and not an obvious "f*ck boy" it excites her even more. I don't have a f*ck boy personality so women think I'm a "catch". What they don't realize is THEY are usually NOT a catch themselves. Hence why I've never had a long-term relationship last longer than a year. HOT women are easy to find and f*ck. HOT women that are LTR material by my criteria are unicorns.
What kind of expensive stuff do you have access to?

And I don't get how you actually use the money to get sex without giving it to them like they're a hooker?
 
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