Girl Culture

[Rollo Tomassi]

A great deal of what I advocate on this forum comes from experience. I've been the rock star, I've been the artist, I've been the university student, the counselor, etc. I've had experience with women at all these stages of my life, but being a husband and a father of a 9 y.o. daughter has taught me the foundations of why women are the way they are.

Have a look at Girl Culture here. Try to read through some of the interviews too, and do so with an open, mature mind. The first response for most guys will be to pass this off as yet another plea for sympathy from a feminized media, but at the core this site goes into how women fight in the psychological, how they operate with respect to the physical and above all, how attention is EVERYTHING to even them from early childhood to old age.

 

[Bible_Belt]

An ex of mine once said, regarding women, "For our entire lives, we have been trained and conditioned to be in competition for men."

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

This is really worth the time to read through or listen to the interviews. I think a lot of what guys get frustrated with in adolescence and early adulthood with women are dynamics that are inborn, socialized and aculturated into women from a very early age. We tend to call women attention hoares when it's more pronounced in certain individuals, but all women across many societies use attention as a kind of currency. Their ability to generate attention from men and other women in their peer clutch determines self-value. Needless to say this can be put to use for the DJ who can recognize it.

 

[Vulpine]

I couldn't help but to notice where these chicks were from.

CA, CA, CA, CA, CA, NYC, CA, CA....

I, for one, can only laugh in horror at this. It seems that, when I was a youth, "girl culture" was more geared towards "help milk the cows before school and not smell like you just came out of a barn".

Or at the very least, the pressure seemed less, so far as I can tell.

Anyone from the midwest would likely be able to attest to the same, I'm sure.

I'm not saying that the culture doesn't exist, I'm saying it varies depending on the region. If it didn't, fat camp would be big business up here in the land of the Nordic Snow Cow.

 

[azanon]

Have a look at Girl Culture here. Try to read through some of the interviews too, and do so with an open, mature mind.

For the slower ones of us :nervous: , where are these interviews? I clicked on it and it took me to some photo gallery.

 

[WestCoaster]

Men are taught to work, women are taught to be caregivers. This has morphed into catching men (as in plural). Men are still taught to WORK, that's why it disturbs me that women greatly outnumber men in college right now. The majority of high-paying careers are now (rightly or wrongly) demanding degrees, and women are chasing them while men are playing video games and watching pro wrestling.

That skyscraper you see? Built by men. That railroad built? By men. Those houses, roads, bridges? Men built them. Yeah, some women chipped in or held a sign on the road. But this is what men were taught to do.

I'm not against women in the work place or furthering themselves through education, but men are falling behind and it's freaking insane. Men are spending too much time getting tatoos, going clubbing to impress ditzy girls, watching mindless TV and so forth. I work at a university and sadly, the gals coming into my office are almost always more focused and graduate in four years, while most men are dorking around, flunking out, graduating in six, seven years, on academic probation.

A bit off-topic here as this is more about how women are culturalized. But men better get their sh-t together or we'll have a totally feminized society.

 

[jophil28]

And this is a glimpse of how GIRL CULTURE plays out later on as they grow into adults.
WE have numerous women's Magazines down here. They ALL have stunning airbrushed women on the front cover ( why is that ? Mens mags have hot women too)
Anyways this new mag that I looked at on my ladyfriends coffee table is called Emporium and it has those 'teaser statements' on the front cover to point to articles inside . I quote -
"RED CARPET ALERT Australians set for stardom "
"JENNIFER HAWKINS seriously seductive " (She was Miss Universe a year ago)
" 10 STEPS TO A BODY BEAUTIFUL"
" SEXY & ROMANTIC SPRING DRESSES"
" The ALLURE of the ALL WHITE HOME"

MY G/F aked me what I thought of the mag.
I muttered ( somewhat sarcastically) ," Perfect for the modern woman."
She looked at me quizically - I just grinned .

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Guys, click on the main pic in the beginning and you'll get to the photos essay. Every 3rd article or so has an interview attached.

 

[Luthor Rex]

I want to be a topless dancer or a showgirl. I think it’d be fun, dancing with my tits showing off. It’s like a goal. If I can accomplish being that, then I can accomplish anything.

Girls want to look pretty. They want to be sparkly, shiny. Stick out of the crowd. That’s what I do. Attention is a part of your life. If you didn’t get any attention, how would anyone recognize you? How would anybody know you? You need to have attention in order for people to see you.

future hooker

 

[Luthor Rex]

Oh oh... this one's better...

The nurse told me I was pregnant... I was kind of happy, because I’m the youngest and I never used to get any attention or anything. When my sister got pregnant, she got a lot of attention. So when I found out I was pregnant, I had mixed feelings—I wanted to tell my family so they would give me a lot of attention, like they did to my sister. And I was afraid to tell them because I thought they might be mad. They were mad. [My grandmother] tried to make me get an abortion, but I wouldn’t. She said I was too young. That I was just copying my sister, ’cause my sister just had a baby. I was already five months pregnant. It was toward the end of eighth grade.

I called the father on the phone, and I was like, “There’s something I need to tell you. I’m pregnant.” And he was like, “Well . . . this is not him.” He was trying to act like he was his brother. I was like, “Whatever,” and hung up. Then my sister called back and told him, “Look. My sister’s pregnant by you. You need to support it. My sister’s only thirteen years old, and there’s nothing that’s going to happen to you. You just need to be in the baby’s life.” And he was like, “Um, he’s out of state right now. I’ll tell him you called.” Then my sister hung up. When she tried to call him the next day, the phone was disconnected.

The only thing I’m angry about is that he changed his number when I told him I was pregnant.

 

[Luthor Rex]

Oh it's a book too...

http://www.amazon.com/Girl-Culture-...4317528?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186544112&sr=8-1

:woo:

 

[Mr.Positive]

Thanks for posting this Rollo. I went through all the interviews and I found it actually somewhat disturbing, in the sense that, women do have a lot of pressure that society places on them. I think we overlook that on this site, or exploit it.

It just goes to show us that we are d@mn lucky to be men.

 

[joekerr31]

yes we are very lucky to be men.

as for women and their attention seeking behaviors, as well as the surge in wh*rish behavior - let's face it, in our society men are valued for their accomplishments and women are still valued on their t*ts and *ss.

just look at most cnn news anchors. lou dobbs, wofl blitzer, larry king, - i mean, come on dudes, these guys are 4/10 in terms of male attractiveness. but look at their female anchors - 95% of them are easily bangable. AND THIS IS THE NEWS!!!

women see this EVERYWHERE. trust me, its not escaping their notice. they know, full well, that they live in a world that appreciates their body first and foremost.

even when they walk down the street they catch men checking out their *sses.

men can't appreciate what it would be like to live in a world where your inner self was highly devalued and your superficial external self was highly valued. ultimately i think you would feel like a piece of meat.

and all of that has ultimately amounted to a lot of women with a lot of personality disorders!

and as unfair as all this is on women, it does NOT give any woman the right to mind f*ck a man.

so i feel sorry for most women, but at the same time it doesn't change how i handle them - because feel sorry all you want, but the moment you start acting AFC they will cut your balls off.

 

[Luthor Rex]

Thanks for posting this Rollo. I went through all the interviews and I found it actually somewhat disturbing, in the sense that, women do have a lot of pressure that society places on them. I think we overlook that on this site, or exploit it.

It just goes to show us that we are d@mn lucky to be men.

Oh I certainly feel bad for that girl I called a "future hooker".

Here's the rub tho: I've known girls like that IRL, and I'll tell ya right now I've never seen any kind of intervention on 'em that will ever help 'em stay out of that kind of life.

I might be more sympathetic, but as far as I can tell these people don't want to be saved from miserable lives.

 

[penkitten]

I might be more sympathetic, but as far as I can tell these people don't want to be saved from miserable lives.

every chick that gives it away at a young age, wants to be saved from her miserable life.
every chick that gives it away too fast to everyone, wants to escape from her miserable life.
every chick that learns to manipulate men is trying to be saved from her miserable life.

no one wants to admit it, but its true.

in some way or another, in any form of escape that they can get, chicks are always trying to get someone to save them and sometimes they even want to be saved from themselves.

i think there are very few positive open minded high esteemed chicks that are not trying to escape it all at least in one point in their lives.

 

[WestCoaster]

Pen ... why are these girls so messed up? With all the advances in equal pay (it's not there completely), job opportunities, college, college scholarships, and this being the 21st century, why in the h-ll are women still hoping some dumb-a$$ jock/bad boy/loser or whomever is the answer to life?

Sh-t, don't older women hand down advice to young girls?

 

[penkitten]

Pen ... why are these girls so messed up? With all the advances in equal pay (it's not there completely), job opportunities, college, college scholarships, and this being the 21st century, why in the h-ll are women still hoping some dumb-a$$ jock/bad boy/loser or whomever is the answer to life?

Sh-t, don't older women hand down advice to young girls?

my mother handed down the advice that her mother handed her and her mother handed her.
i was born in 1977 as a 3rd child to a married couple and by the age of 4, i could tell you that our whole daily routine was all about "when daddy comes home".

lets clean the house cause daddy is coming home.
lets go shopping before daddy comes home.
lets make dinner so daddy will be happy when he gets here.
we have to wait on that and ask daddy what he thinks when he gets home.
you can color this for daddy and give it to him when he gets home.
we can let daddy take care of this flat when he gets home.
"i cant believe what you just did, just wait til your daddy gets home!!"

life was all about daddy coming home.
when daddy came home, we all went to the door to greet him. we waved out the windows while he pulled in waving "its daddy its daddy daddy is home"

what were girls raised in that environment supposed to learn?
the man we called daddy, saved the day. nothing else was important.

so when a little girl has no daddy, or mom and dad divorce, or dad passes away, we search for anything that can compare.

when we grow up and look for a guy to be a part of our lives, its the same thing in one way or another.

im 30 years old and just admitting to myself how much i damage i did to my own life as a teenager seeking out things like this.

my mother is 57 and is just now admitting it. her generation was taught to grow up being good girls and to go get married and leave home to start their own families.

when i came home as a pregnant teenager and my mother asked me if i when i was getting married, i said "im 15 and will have a hell of a time raising a child, you want me to damn myself even more by getting married just so you can save face? ohh nooo!!!"
i stood up for myself and i never regretted that.
sure i was called names and told not to bring illegitimate children into the world, but you can't undo what is already done.

 

[WestCoaster]

Good answer, thanks. Hopefully your generation can change things. There are a ton of opportunities out there for women today.

 

[penkitten]

Good answer, thanks. Hopefully your generation can change things. There are a ton of opportunities out there for women today.

i have daughters too.
one daughter, came to me at age 4 and said "mommy when i grow up i dont want to get married and have babies, i want to have a job and a purse full of money."

i said "then you have to go to college."

i mean, i didnt know what else to say, so that seemed to be good.

i say it all the time, i will teach my daughters how to survive with or without a man, and my boys how to survive with or without a woman , so that way they dont self destruct .
so they dont have to settle for the first one that comes along.

it really doesnt matter to me what job they have or if they get married, i just want them to be good individuals that are happy.

 

[Mr.Positive]

it really doesnt matter to me what job they have or if they get married, i just want them to be good individuals that are happy.

That's a great attitude!

Thanks for sharing your story, I wish there were more (single) women like you around!