Alvafe said:
its not excuses its reality, i'm saying what is normal cost around where I live, then again I said right from start because I was sure people like you would not read, I DO HAVE MY CAR, and know pretty well jsut for having a car my chances to get laid raises at least 50%, number go higher the better the car is,
Well you sure have the wrong kind of reality Jack. I wasn't referring to only you. I was referring to your comments where you think it's ok not to have a car and expect men here to be successful in dating. You are making excuses because even poor people manage to own a car. There is no excuse not to have one as long as you are working.
Alvafe said:
but then again golden you are such small minded you need to atack people to prove your point, what I said before was the costs you have with the car alone, and most people here can't have a car if they need to pay for others things like college, home, food and going out all that costs, and the reality where I live is diferent from where you live, you need to adapt for what you can, and then improve.
I didn't attack anybody. I'm just telling it like it is. If some guy thinks he is going to date a lot of women without car he is in for a rude awakening.
You think things are cheaper here and people don't have bills to pay? Most people are living paycheck to paycheck and they still own a car. A lot of people are up to their necks in debt paying off student loans, credit card bills, home mortgages, health insurance and they still own a car. Plus they have the normal bills and car expenses to pay. Gas was way over 4 bucks a gallon at one point. You're making excuses.
If poor immigrants can migrate to the U.S. with nothing but the shirts on their backs, get a job, be productive in society, buy and own a car, then the average joe in his 30's can do the same without blaming women for expecting him to own a car.
I'm sure you can buy a very nice used car where you are for $6,000. Used cars are plenty and affordable. When I was in the Dominican Republic and in Mexico people had cars who were poor. If they can own one, then so can someone else.
Alvafe said:
and teh dating problem most guys here have is not getting woman, is getting a GOOD woman, Who would be with him because she like him, not because he give her things, or will trade him with anotehr guy who have a better car.
Being a responsible and productive is what will get you a good woman. Women want a man who is responsible and has some status. Not owning a car puts you at a disadvantage and the only women you will have are lower class women with no cars and jobs.
Alvafe said:
also plase define a responsable adult, if by being responsable is just to have a house a car, be full of debits to have these and spend the next 20 years just to pay for these you sure, need to do a hell of growing up.
Being a responsible adult is taking accountability for yourself without making excuses or blaming others. Responsibility is getting yourself a job and being productive in society. Responsibility is owning your own possessions and paying for them with the money you earn. Responsibility is paying off your debts. Women want a responsible man. They don't want some guy who has no means to support himself or their family in the future. If some fat woman with nothing going for herself can own a place and a car, then the average joe should too.
What do you want people to do? Sit around with nothing and complain about the people who have something? Not go to work or purchase things that they are supposed to own? Millions of people are in debt but they pay off their debt. That is the way of life jack. If you want something you have to pay for it. If you can't pay for all of it now, you pat it off in increments. This is how it is everywhere. You have a weird way of looking at things with excuses and naivety.
JaegerPilot217, don't worry as long as you have a job and a car, Good women will respect that.