Getting Into Relationships With Women With Kids (If You Don't Want Them)

[New_Journey]

My last relationship was with a woman with a kid for almost 3 years.

Men who complain are the ones who got nothing going on, while is true her kid will come first, they will always would want somebody who can help them with money and success. She was a very fun, caring and loving person, I was her king.

Eventually they will want more than just bfs, like any women would when you are her best option, I wasn't ready for it, I will never be, I have the vasectomy, don't want kids or get married. But she is just another woman who reacts to the stronger frame in the room.

Enjoy it for what she is, a woman whom you are having great memories with, until it ends. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[RickTheToad]

Coastguard? Were you Individual augmentee program or something like that? Thanks for your service man

We had a significant presence in Afghanistan. Remember, in the mid 2000's, we were fighting to large conflicts along with dealing with other crap from puppet states. It's all good. In some countries, it's required. The opportunities are endless; as long as people can get through major conflicts.

 

[RickTheToad]

Thank you for your service.



You had significant issues.

While graduating in 2008 and 2009 into a bad recession is not as immediately traumatic as being a solider in a war like World War II, Vietnam, or Afghanistan, it can still be bad in its own way.

Some members of the Classes of 2008 and 2009 might have even ended up homeless. Lots ended up living with the parents. It was a really bad time and it wasn't entirely their fault.

The Classes of 2023-2025 are experiencing similar things.

Additionally, economic uncertainties do contribute to lower birth rates. The USA has had a lower per capita fertility rate since the 2008 recession. Fertility never truly recovered from 2008.

Childlessness seems more common in men than women. The premise of this thread is the childless man-single mom combination.

I think a lot of males who finished high school, college, or graduate school in the late 2000s-early 2010s and experienced negative economic consequences ultimately ended up childless either by choice or diminish SMV coming off of diminishing earnings that come out of graduating into a recession.

It's all good. I was forced into it. Broke and no direction. They fix both issues pretty quickly.

I hear you. The childlessness epidemic is due to $$$ and feminism. People can barely get by as it is. Adding a kid or two doesn't help when money is tight. The world seems to be getting harder, not easier; but there are options. I recommend to many auto mechanic, electrician and plumber. Each, while have low income at first (apprentice level), they explode after three years. I know some plumbers and electricians earning over 250k a year.

Then, there's always the military. It can be tough, but I will still say it builds character and gives a lot of life skills.

 

[SW15]

Then, there's always the military. It can be tough, but I will still say it builds character and gives a lot of life skills.

True

I recommend to many auto mechanic, electrician and plumber. Each, while have low income at first (apprentice level), they explode after three years. I know some plumbers and electricians earning over 250k a year.

It's a better path to avoid going for a bachelor's degree and to get a trade certificate instead.

Too many late Generation X'ers and Gen Y/Millennials were sent to get bachelor's degrees during the 1990s-2000s. The Great Recession proved that there were too many bachelor's degree holders. It was a common story during the late 2000s/early 2010s to hear about someone with a bachelor's degree working a McJob.

In the last 10-15 years or so, people have noticed the problem of too many bachelor's degree holders and have also seen openings in the trades/blue collars.

The white collar working environment has destabilized since I got my bachelor's in 2005. AI could be an even further disruptor of that and affect SMV levels.

 

[jhonny9546]

This POV on the education market is interesting but it seems too OT, should we open a new post about it?

 

[Pandora]

As a childless man who is now in his early 40s, I'm starting to deal with this reality. I am managing to avoid single moms but I'm not sure how much longer that this can last.

I don't desire to spend time with children that aren't my own. I also don't want to step into a messy co-parenting situation.

Dating and forming new relationships is already difficult enough with a childless woman. The added complexity of her single parenthood and my childless status isn't a battle that I want to fight.



Incorrect. This is one of the biggest misconceptions about dating a woman with children.

Her children are always going to be present in some fashion.

It's possible that the burden is reduced after 18, but that's debatable.

In the USA, in the last 2 generations (Millennials and Gen Z), it's been common for adults 18-29 to either live at home for a period of time or require significant financial support and attention after age 18.

For a childless man, this will be annoying to deal with as the relationship continues.

Childless men and single moms are a bit of an awkward fit.

So about 45% of domestic women between the ages of 25 - 44 are single and childless. I don't understand why there seems to be so many single mothers after 30+. You would think that 45% of the dating pool after 30 would be single and childless. Maybe we dont notice these women or maybe they are still chasing the top 5% of men. What do you think?

45% of Women to Be Single, Childless by 2030: Morgan Stanley Study

Introduction The dynamics of modern society are changing at a rapid pace, particularly in relation to gender roles and expectations. One of the most significant shifts is the growing number of women who are choosing to stay single and childless well into their prime working years.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/104ojta

 

[Pandora]

The women I've dated that didn't have kids weren't as nurturing, and caring as the women who did. They were also less more selfish and had higher level careers.

Yes I had a similar experience. The single moms I dated were actually emotionally mature. They are pleasant women to be around because they had to be. They had to grow up because of the kid. The only reason I did not stick with them was because of my ego.

I know it sounds bad but I just could not handle the blow to my ego of being a step bad. I know its silly but I always wanted my own family. Sometimes I regret this decision because single mothers are cool. You can also see what type of mother they will be.

With childless women you are always guessing on whether they will make a good mother.

 

[Pandora]

Look like someone here had some experience about it.
I mean, kids are not forever, but maybe 5 or more 10 year, then they become adult and have a life on their own right?

So the best sex I ever had was with a single mother. I dated her before she got pregnant by another guy. I also dated her after. I strongly considered it but the kid was very young. Are you willing to put your life on hold for 10 yrs?

Also you cant move out of the state because single mothers often have custody agreements with the father. So if you wanted to move to Malaysia you cant. If you wanted to move to New York city you cant.

These are the things you have to think about. Its not just the years.

 

[DJ Novice]

The single Vietnamese mum I’m dating (against my own rules, she has a young child) looks 10 years younger than her age of 50, satisfies my every need in bed, is very affectionate, easy going and is only 55kg.

She’s made it clear that she wants a long term commitment within 12 months (I don’t blame her, I’d do the same in her position) and that time has just passed.

At 57 I don’t want to raise someone else’s child or buy a house for her (she has no home of her own) and dilute my own financial reserves which I want to pass on only to my my own kids. So it will end soon. She’s already making noises.

Dating younger attractive single mums with young kids is a bit like like driving a Ferrari. It looks great, drives amazing but the long term financial cost and maintenance is just unaffordable. Best to lease for a short time, not buy outright.