game versus serious relationship

[greatsnake]

I've gotten to the point where a hard time trying to get to know a chick, respecting her, giving her space etc. in order to have a stable relationship, after being in the game for such a long time.

- Is this the point where being red pill bites you back?
- How to slow down?
- How do I go from doing what I want to actually putting time into someone?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't know everything . But I personally think in your situation you need someone who slvtted it up and did the game for so long that their tired. They just want someone they could count on that will love them . Or a Christian virgin .

 

[resilient]

*My feedback is in italics

- Is this the point where being red pill bites you back?
What do you mean? I need more context here.

- How to slow down?
Maintain her respect and space by staying busy with education, work/career, hobbies, bros, whatever your life evolves when not around her. Continue to spin plates.

- How do I go from doing what I want to actually putting time into someone?
If you're looking to transition from game to serious relationship, she needs to approach you and ask for exclusivity. Not the other way around. If she's on board with the LTR, she'll drop more interest, pursue you more and add more pressure to be exclusive. Do it of course, if that's what you want and you want to give her main plate status until you're comfortable enough phasing out options in favor of the LTR.

Just remember... a woman may pick you out to be exclusive, yet don't expect her to follow-through and let go of her options well into the LTR. This could be in a way of her dating apps, social circles, DMs, social media, etc. Especially true if she has low self-esteem and loves attention from my experience.

 

[ohrein]

I've gotten to the point where a hard time trying to get to know a chick, respecting her, giving her space etc. in order to have a stable relationship, after being in the game for such a long time.

- Is this the point where being red pill bites you back?
- How to slow down?
- How do I go from doing what I want to actually putting time into someone?

It's typical for guys learning game to struggle finding a balance between alpha/beta behaviors that fits both their personality and goals, especially if they desire an LTR. As Rollo points out, in a successful LTR a guy must fulfill both parts of a woman sexual pluralism (hypergamy) which means if you've been focusing on the alpha traits, you need to dial in a little beta. Most women, particularly mentally healthy women, won't stay in a relationship without comfort and security to some degree. Too much becomes boring and this is where most blue pill guys fail, but too little and women won't be able to feel comfortable investing in you.

Most guys are blue pill and beta by default as that's how society raises us. When you find game you swing all the way out the other side and find success getting sex. It's tempting then to think that's the answer to all problems but if you want more than just sex it then becomes an issue. There's very little stability in a pure alpha mentality which is partly why plate spinning is preached. If you want to have something more long term you have to let a little of that beta back in without compromising your core masculinity. Be a kind man when a woman is respecting you but drop the beta when she starts the sh1t tests and challenges.

It's about being a great guy, not a nice guy. A nice guy is a doormat who tries to buy desire by putting women on a pedestal and placing her needs in front of his, even when she's being awful to him. A great guy is a man who lives his life and purpose and stands up for himself and others while treating those who deserve it with respect and love. A great guy does not put women on a pedestal, does not tolerate poor behavior in exchange for pvssy and will expect the best in himself and others.

 

[skinnyguy]

You need to keep gaming other women when you’re in a relationship

 

[Trump]

Most women, particularly mentally healthy women, won't stay in a relationship without comfort and security to some degree. Too much becomes boring and this is where most blue pill guys fail, but too little and women won't be able to feel comfortable investing in you.

These are the same women who gave up their bodies for free in high school and college.

Most guys are blue pill and beta by default as that's how society raises us. When you find game you swing all the way out the other side and find success getting sex. It's tempting then to think that's the answer to all problems but if you want more than just sex it then becomes an issue.

This is 2018. Women hypergamy is encouraged and rewarded. The man shouldn't want more than just sex. Once the women finds out he is relying on her for ANY emotional support, its game over.

A nice guy is a doormat who tries to buy desire by putting women on a pedestal and placing her needs in front of his, even when she's being awful to him.

A great guy does not put women on a pedestal, does not tolerate poor behavior in exchange for pvssy and will expect the best in himself and others.

"Yo dude, how did your date go with that hot young actress?"
"OK. I put her on a pedestal and placed her needs in front of mine. I tolerated her bad behavior, yet I got to sleep with her."
"Brutal bro. I can't believe you did that. You are such doormat and nice guy."


"Yo dude, how did your date go with that hot young actress?"
"OK. I didn't put her a pedestal. She wanted to sleep with me but I sent her home because I don't tolerate bad behavior. Instead I stayed home alone and watched Game of Thrones.
"YOU ARE THE MAN!"

 

[ohrein]

"Yo dude, how did your date go with that hot young actress?"
"OK. I didn't put her a pedestal. She wanted to sleep with me but I sent her home because I don't tolerate bad behavior. Instead I stayed home alone and watched Game of Thrones.
"YOU ARE THE MAN!"

You're posting this as if it's absurd but it's what I truly believe. Your mentality comes from a place of scarcity, as though if you don't sleep with this hot young actress you won't get another one. My life doesn't revolve around sex. If you're enduring interactions with a woman and not enjoying her company just to get sex, you're coming from a weak place. A place where deep down you don't think you can get another woman and so you have to make it work with this one right now. A place where sex is more important to you than your dignity and your time. If you want to pay that price and feed your addiction, more power to you.