Friends will betray you for females

[Pandora]

Long post but im so pissed off right now. So i go out tonight with a guy who i had know for years who is supposed to be my boy. When we go out im usually the guy that approaches chicks because im pretty good at talking to women at bars esp when they are groups. Most of my other guy friends are too afraid to go up to chicks so i lead and they follow. Usually when you go approach a group of chicks the unwritten guy rule is that is that its "finder keepers". If a girl is feeling your boy you don't move in on his girl esp if there are an equal number of guys to girls. The first girl your friend approaches you keep away from esp if shes showing interest in him. This is just basic honor among men. Tonight my friend betrayed this simple trust. This is the second time he has done this with chicks that were sure lays. The first time i was actually in the chicks house and he makes a move on her when im not around, she gets pissed and throws him out. I let that slide.
Tonight i approach a group of girls and my friend and another guy we know open up a group of 4 girls (3 guys 4 girls). I was hitting it off with the leader of the group pretty well, it looked like it might be a sure thing. This is due to the fact that she is the most social, receptive and probably the most slutty. On the dance floor with the girls my friend decides to dance with her. I don't show any jealousy because i find that to be AFC and weak minded ( even though i am jealous). I act like its all good as opposed to get all possessive with a girl i just met. He then tries to make out with her, and i ignore it. She refuses. I leave. She seeks me out and dances with me the rest of the time.
At the end of the night hes tryin to take her home. Im still playin it cool. She comes up to me and asks me wut the deal is. She says "are you guys trying to undermine each other" shes obviously loving the competition between 2 friends. I'm very big on loyalty so i pull her aside and tell her that if your asking me to choose you over my friend im not going to do it. I give her this mini speech about how shes a dime a dozen but a friendship mean more than pu**y. Basically the bros over hoes speech. She was hinting at the fact that she would go with me all i had to do was say the word. I really liked the girl sexually too. It was very tempting but i didnt bite. My "friend" was eavesdropping on the whole convo. He knew i wanted to bag her.

 

[Pandora]

Instead of reciprocating and being an honorable dude (esp since i approached the chick) this jacka** takes the girls arm and takes her to a cab. Im pissed now. I go up to him and tell him that he should leave her with me esp after her ****blocked me last time and esp since i approached her first. He tells me he owes me and then proceeds to leave. She was alittle reluctant to leave but gets in the cab.
I know its pathetic to fight over a bar wh*re, but im more pissed at my "friend". Ive known this guy for a while and i have bailed him outa so many situations before. Heck the dude even crashed at my place when he got evicted for 3 months rent free. It hurts when u show loyalty to ur friends but they are willing to betray over pu**y. Its not really the girl, its the fact that friendship goes out the window every time with this guy when the offer of sex comes up. For most guys does bro's over hoes go out the window? I said i would never fight a good friend but next time i see him i am going to hurt him physically. And im gonna write him off permanently. Im a loyal guy and it hurts when one of your best friends betrays you for a chick. Should i whoop his as* or should i just write him off. In this world it seems like the guy with integrity ends up the fool I need opinions please.
I didnt want to set up a whole me vs him thing over a chick. I would have rather us both go without it than to set up sum im better than him competition over a chick. It was more of a gesture. It was me saying dude im willing to sacrifice something and im not letting a chick come between us man. He should have gotten the hint and dropped it.

 

[Falcon25]

All is fair in love and war. Honor? That went out the window in the 40's. It's every covk for himself now. You learned something today. You are alone.

 

[spider_007]

dude is eating off your plait. Time to cut him off.

You can still be friends, just when your going out, leave his ass at home...and make sure the entire group knows the **** he pulls.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

The girl liked you and you call her a wh0re? She gets in the cab with him but I'm sure she didn't sleep with him.

You just need a more loyal friend. There are plenty of friends that I have that wouldn't have done that.

 

[Trader]

To the OP:

First off, I want to commend you for being a man of honor.

Secondly, you *should* be angry at the lack of honor displayed by your friend. There is such a thing as *righteous anger.*

It is only rogues and knaves who would be indifferent to the actions of your friend, they are incapable of feeling anger because they themselves lack honor. Those who lack game (honor), cannot recognize game (honor)

Lastly, now is the time to *honor yourself* and disassociate from this joker. Remember, you are who you roll with, so only roll with classy individuals.

And before you cut him off from your life completely, feel free to burn him, he deserves it.

 

[squirrels]

dude is eating off your plait. Time to cut him off.

You can still be friends, just when your going out, leave his ass at home...and make sure the entire group knows the **** he pulls.

What he said. Well, minus spelling plate "plait".

If you're the one always opening chicks, let him try and work without your support.

 

[Kailex]

At the end of the night hes tryin to take her home. Im still playin it cool. She comes up to me and asks me wut the deal is. She says "are you guys trying to undermine each other" shes obviously loving the competition between 2 friends. I'm very big on loyalty so i pull her aside and tell her that if your asking me to choose you over my friend im not going to do it. I give her this mini speech about how shes a dime a dozen but a friendship mean more than pu**y. Basically the bros over hoes speech. She was hinting at the fact that she would go with me all i had to do was say the word. I really liked the girl sexually too. It was very tempting but i didnt bite. My "friend" was eavesdropping on the whole convo. He knew i wanted to bag her.

First of all, real friends won't betray you for a female.
This guy WASN'T a friend. My best friend would take a bullet for me and I for him.

Second, I know there's a PRINCIPLE to the situation, and I won't argue with that, but he actually did you a FAVOR.

Now, before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not condoning his friend's actions. But did you see what happened in the above situation. You tried to defuse the situation by stating "bros before hoes", but by saying that, you laid down a clear stake in your interest for her. You might have given her a speech about how you wouldn't CHOOSE her, but all she understood was: If it weren't for his friend, he'd totally bang me.

And once she figured THAT out, she switched it up on him.

I'm glad you didn't bite, because I doubt she was really honest about the whole "just say the word" act. She just wanted to find a way to keep fueling and fanning the fire. You, decided to not fall for it. Good move, but in the end, she still achieved what she wanted, albeit not as much as she wanted to originally. She still knew you both had interest, she just didn't get as much out of it as she wanted.

Still... now you know that your friend, isn't truly your friend.

 

[backbreaker]

man i could write a ****ing book on this subject.

I really do not understand why most men dont' go solo. I cut off my 2 best friends when I was 22 becuase of some similar ****, best thing I could have ever done. You fly solo you dont put up with this ****.

I have found that all men are loyal to a point for the most part. the point being, how hot the woman is. If you usually bring a banging HB9.9 around that everyone is going gaga over **** loyalty. sure guys will be loyal to a point (most guys).

I had let one of my best friends (and his GF) stay with me for 3 months as well and he repaid me by trying to ****.. no actually ****ing a girl i was messing around with.. that didn't even bother me becuase she was just a **** buddy, but he did it without telling me.

Then the other had a phd in ****blocking.

Friends are okay for the most part, when you are on the same level or they think they are better than you. when you step your game up all bets are off.


I know for a fact that both my best friends tried to get with my oneitis behind my back when i wasn't around.. more than once. they were not her type, and she'd tell me about it and ask me what kinda friends i had that would do that.


Then i remember one time we were playing spades at my crib late at night. my two friends, myself and one of my friends girl.

everyone leaves at about 1:30, i get ready to go over this broads house to spend the night, i get a knock on my door.. this girl came back over my house after everyoen left (my friends's girl he was seeing). she wanted to ****. she told me she had wanted me ever since she saw me. I told her that while I appricsate the compliment and she is an attractive woman (she was) i'd have to pass.. and we aren't going to let brad (my friend) know about any of this.

in hindsight i should have beat that **** up from here to japan

 

[Lexington]

You said that you had the chance to take her home. Why didn't you? You say you had dibs on her. You were into her sexually. So what would be wrong in taking her home?

As pointed out by backbreaker, it's always best to go solo. These "wingman" arrangements rarely work out in real life. You'll inevitably end up in competition with your friends. If you thought you had a good chance to bang Jessica Beal, do you honestly think you'd back off just because your friend said "hello" to her first?

Go out with you friends, but do your approaches solo.

 

[Warrior74]

Most of the guys I know will do this in a heart beat. They will step on friends, enemies anyone for a hot chic. Of course these same guys are always single. They are starving dogs who just want someone decent instead of hte fatties and skanks they usually get. When they see me or another friend with a decent girl they can't stand it. Which is why I follow the core principle of not bringing a chic around any friends until the deal has been sealed. I had one friend tell my date "you know if you weren't with Warrior, I'd be all over you. To which she replied, you know if I wasn't with Warrior I wouldn't even be speaking to you' BURN!!!! lol. These days I really don't hang out with to many friends just for reasons such as this.

 

[Drum&Bass]

thats why its important to choose your friends carefully. I wouldnt have given her the speech instead you should have just hooked up with her. Once you started having feelings of jealousy you should have decided right then and there that the friendship is over.

The moment my friends do something I feel is out of line or disrespectful I let them know about it. If they continue with their behavior I hit the EJECT BUTTON.

You remind me of a chick that gets beat up by an abusive boyfriend. All the signs are there but you chose to ignore them. Things will only get worse because Loyal People don't mix well with UN-loyal people. You need to find NEW friends of your caliber.

These "wingman" arrangements rarely work out in real life. You'll inevitably end up in competition with your friends.

I disagree !! Learn how to judge peoples character.

 

[Colossus]

Your 'friend' showed his true colors, on multiple occasions.

I dont think it's necessary to fight the guy, I'd just cut him off. If he asks why, tell him he knows why. He was a disrespectful punk trying to run off with your dinner. You guys are men, and men have rules.

A true friend wouldn't do that. It's one thing if an HB9 you opened really wants your wingman instead. It would hurt but I mean what's he gonna do. This guy has tried to scoop up YOUR interested quarry on different occasions. He's a scavenger... no boundaries.

 

[Jitterbug]

Cut that ex-friend off.

And never give speech to women.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

Your title is half-right.

AFCs who never get laid will betray you for females.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Law 2: Never Put Too Much Trust in Friends, Learn How to Use Enemies
Be wary of friends— they will betray you more quickly, for they are easily aroused to envy. They also become spoiled and tyrannical. But hire a former enemy and he will be more loyal than a friend, because he has more to prove. In fact, you have more to fear from friends than from enemies. If you have no enemies, find a way to make them

 

[kingsam]

Law 2: Never Put Too Much Trust in Friends, Learn How to Use Enemies
Be wary of friends— they will betray you more quickly, for they are easily aroused to envy. They also become spoiled and tyrannical. But hire a former enemy and he will be more loyal than a friend, because he has more to prove. In fact, you have more to fear from friends than from enemies. If you have no enemies, find a way to make them

yep, always keep a distance from your (afc) guy friends and your women

 

[jonwon]

Regardless of the points made, having a solid wing is big advantage.

Guys who do this is normally AFC's who dont know the etiquette to dating, or being a wing.

I.e you expect them to follow some code of conduct, well simply put your projecting your values onto someone who is probably clueless.

Could you educate him?

Probably, depends on how good a friend he is.

I'd personally lay some ground rules down and try to recruit him as a wing, if he doesn't comply cut him loose, especcially since he is sniffing around your butt hole.

He is simply looking for the easy target, i.e the girl you've opened up and invited into the monkey sphere - it's a safe easy target because you've already done the approach, you've done the hard work, he is simply doing what uneducated in the art of dating AFC's do.

Most guys do this, unless he knows the score, you'd be hard pressed to find such a guy amongst your AFC friends, but if you can, it is well worth it.

Normally it isn't a problem, unless ofc your AFC friend get's all aggressive with the girl you've been talking to, like some coc* fight contest. In most cases that will result in the girl loosing interest in both of you - yes it's the other guys fault but again your projecting your knowledge onto some smuck who isn't aware of his actions and the consequences.

Why not educate him and toss him some material?

 

[DanelMadr]

Reminds me of hyena. Lioness or Cheetah does the kill and they bully him/her of the carcase.

If anybody do this he can't call himself your friend. Fvck You can't call him your friend.

I had this incident in 4th grade. I got the nerve up and asked a girl on date to the cinema. She told me she will bring her friends, so I brought mine. And this fvcker sat next to her. Actually blocking me out. He wasn't able to ask her out but he was fvcking desperate to spoil it for anyone else. I should have beat his sorry azz. Sure I would kill the mood for everyone but at least I would teach him a lesson.
He was the "leader" of us boys, everyone respected him for he behaved more mature (he had two older brothers who were real azzholes but taught him how to act tough I guess). Funny thing is, he was real pvssy....always the talk but never the walk. On couple of occasions we were in a situation when were challenged by some dude. And guess what...I was the one who did the fighting. He never fought. But he always had some good excuse why he did not fight. Real fvcking Cartmen

About hyenas generally:

When I was in a club once, I was dancing with these girls and guys sneaked up behind those girls and tried to do the humping MTV move. I fvcking hate those losers who do that. So I turned the girl away from them every time they tried this shyt. And guess what they tried to go between me and the girl. What a fvcking impudence. I just took their hand and send them flying to opposite corner. Stupid hyenas.

Or this one guy, I'm talking to a girl and he comes to the table, grabs my lighter and proceeds to light his cigarette (he was probably Italian guy, they are addicted to being macho azzholes) I just thought I gonna kick the impudence out of him....and I just looked at him to find a place where to hit him....he probably saw my look (I call it snake eyes - like you are going to die now) and the fvcker probably realized he took a bit too much of a bite and started to apologize like the biggest wussy.

I guess I pick my friends well, because they don't do that. And I would beat the shyt out of anyone sitting on my place besides a girl I asked out. I am not a violent person. I almost never fight...I don't have to...my willingness to fight is probably visible and they back off very fast. And I have a loooong fuse. You can chop a wood on my back but these kind of impudences set me boiling. I wouldn't do that and I can't understand why some do unless they are hyenas and need to be set straight.

I think the biggest difference between my father's days and mine is that back then it was a standard to have a fist fight when someone disrespected you. And guess what...there was much more respect. Practically every dance party ended up in a big fight. Beautiful times.

I always say, integrity went to hell the moment sword fights were banned. You stepped on someones foot, did not apologize...bam...a sword fight. You fvcked other mans woman...bam ....a sword fight.


Bottom line:
I don't understand why you even still talk to them let alone why are they still using all their teeth to chew.

 

[Warrior74]

I think the biggest difference between my father's days and mine is that back then it was a standard to have a fist fight when someone disrespected you. And guess what...there was much more respect. Practically every dance party ended up in a big fight. Beautiful times.

I always say, integrity went to hell the moment sword fights were banned. You stepped on someones foot, did not apologize...bam...a sword fight. You fvcked other mans woman...bam ....a sword fight.

[/SIZE]

You must not have been to the hood in the last 20 years. Step on someone's brand new Air Jordans... Fight, then shoot out, then someone in the hospital or jail. So smart. So fvcking smart.