Freedom

[tightgrp]

Nearly every relationship I observe, the man caters to the woman like a symp. Getting her permission or jumping through hoops for her.d It's quite disgusting. I see it less often when the SMV is at a great disparity in favor of the man. Big, fugly, lazy, unintelligent, entitled, expectant, demanding ... No thanks. I love the freedom I have found in being unencumbered by today's woman.

 

[shwami_salami]

Yeap, relationships typically work that way: she's gotta be more into you than you r into her. Unfortunately its
that or otherwise you come off as simpish n desperate

 

[CollegeMan22]

I agree. The normal male mindset is: "Does she like me? Can I please her? Is she thinking of leaving me?". It is NEUROTIC and destroys your mind. And it is completely useless in the larger scope of your goals and mission in life. It is so freeing to only accept girls on your standards and be assured that if she doesn't like your standards, you can get another girl. Your mind becomes more peaceful and free of the chatter of trying to appease people. Instead, you just pursue your goals and bang on the side, on your terms and in the way you want. No need to text her every 10 minutes the entire day. Just text her when you want to meet and bang. So nice.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Your woman has to look up to you or it won’t work.

 

[Stanley]

Your woman has to look up to you or it won’t work.

but what if she's taller then me???

inb4 @MatureDJ makes a joke, lol
"It's over for Short-cels"


...But yeah if the girl isn't invested in you and shows you respect it's done-zo.
Too many men care too much about what the girl thinks of himself. He overvalues her judgement and opinions while not valuing himself enough. He must know his worth and his inherent value, when he does he will not tolerate disrespectful behavior or commit people pleasing behaviors for the sake of keeping the woman.

 

[RazorRambo24]

Nearly every relationship I observe, the man caters to the woman like a symp. Getting her permission or jumping through hoops for her.d It's quite disgusting. I see it less often when the SMV is at a great disparity in favor of the man. Big, fugly, lazy, unintelligent, entitled, expectant, demanding ... No thanks. I love the freedom I have found in being unencumbered by today's woman.

Breh.. if you seen how I was with women my entire life, you'd prob follow me like im some cult leader.

Honestly though man I learned to be kinder/respect woman more as of late.. especially in the past few years.. when it started costing me.. Now I'm careful and try to understand their emotions n sht.. Before, I was just selfish and while I was aware of their emotions and stuff, I kinda made alot of stupid mistakes.. I never once was a simp tho.. its just not in my dna ...closest I came to it was falling in love with a toxic chick .. In the end , we were both really battered by the situation.. and it was one of those situations where i kinda "met my match"... Think God was trying to tell me something

 

[Plinco]

Relationships are all about mutual respect. If you have to wonder whether or not she likes you then it means she doesn't like you very much and probably doesn't respect you.

 

[BadBoy89]

Honestly though man I learned to be kinder/respect woman more as of late.. especially in the past few years.. when it started costing me.. Now I'm careful and try to understand their emotions n sht.. Before, I was just selfish and while I was aware of their emotions and stuff, I kinda made alot of stupid mistakes..

That’s funny, when I was younger I was so kind and respectful to woman. Never rude, always listen, etc.

My patience now for any woman is about 36 seconds. If she is hot, 56 seconds. If they don’t put out fast now, I’m done with them.

 

[SW15]

I love the freedom I have found in being unencumbered by today's woman.

Freedom is awesome but you will likely need to encumber to some degree to get some poontang. Stay as free as you can stay.

Nearly every relationship I observe, the man caters to the woman like a symp. Getting her permission or jumping through hoops for her.d It's quite disgusting. I see it less often when the SMV is at a great disparity in favor of the man. Big, fugly, lazy, unintelligent, entitled, expectant, demanding ... No thanks.

I've seen this too among my mainly blue pill friends. It's amazing to see how many of my friends violate the Iron Rules of Tomassi. The 2 most common ones I've seen are violations of Iron Rule #1 (loss of frame) and Iron Rule #4 (living with girlfriend without being married within 6 months of the move in date). I've seen instances of Iron Rule #3 happening (women making men wait for sex). In thinking about these relationships, they seem like complete shiit to me. There's no reason to let that change my emotional state in viewing their relationships.

The Iron Rules of Tomassi

One of the most influential books in my life has been The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. It’s a book I wish every man could read, and I…

medium.com

 

[RazorRambo24]

That’s funny, when I was younger I was so kind and respectful to woman. Never rude, always listen, etc.

My patience now for any woman is about 36 seconds. If she is hot, 56 seconds. If they don’t put out fast now, I’m done with them.

Its weird man with most things ive experienced in life.. im glad i started off young because.. by the time I got to where Im at now, I feel like I learned the things that made sense.. like my progression made alot of sense to me.. But others, are the opposite..

The more I learn about women, the more I spend time with my plates, etc.. the more care and compassion I have for women overall. I think the problem with why alot of dudes have this bitterness or lack of patience with women is because they haven't gotten to really experience how beautiful and loving and compassionate and giving women can be.

I mean I woke up hungry af , was going to make my same old oatmeal with apples for breakfast and some eggs .. th seame sht i eat everyday for most of the year.. and I get a call, my plate drops off a breakfast burrito and some potato tacos.. I never told her I was hungry or anything. ddint ask or whatever.. she just did it out of her own kindness/thinking about me.. and while I'm not a huge fan of breakfast burritos or potato tacos.. it hit the spot lol.

 

[Gamisch]

Freedom is awesome but you will likely need to encumber to some degree to get some poontang. Stay as free as you can stay.



I've seen this too among my mainly blue pill friends. It's amazing to see how many of my friends violate the Iron Rules of Tomassi. The 2 most common ones I've seen are violations of Iron Rule #1 (loss of frame) and Iron Rule #4 (living with girlfriend without being married within 6 months of the move in date). I've seen instances of Iron Rule #3 happening (women making men wait for sex). In thinking about these relationships, they seem like complete shiit to me. There's no reason to let that change my emotional state in viewing their relationships.

The Iron Rules of Tomassi

One of the most influential books in my life has been The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. It’s a book I wish every man could read, and I…

medium.com

I think this is how 99% of men learned to do relationships. Sosuave is pretty niche, and I can't deny a place like this thaught me tons of stuff (combined with countless real life experiences and examples). Otherwise I would be an AFC beta blue piller for life, without even being aware of what I am.

Its funny how we always try to impress people around us and even people we don't know. For a bluepilled man getting and keeping a woman is his number one priority in life so other people respect him. His honour goes through her. Her actions will decide his faith.

Breh.. if you seen how I was with women my entire life, you'd prob follow me like im some cult leader.

Honestly though man I learned to be kinder/respect woman more as of late.. especially in the past few years.. when it started costing me.. Now I'm careful and try to understand their emotions n sht.. Before, I was just selfish and while I was aware of their emotions and stuff, I kinda made alot of stupid mistakes.. I never once was a simp tho.. its just not in my dna ...closest I came to it was falling in love with a toxic chick .. In the end , we were both really battered by the situation.. and it was one of those situations where i kinda "met my match"... Think God was trying to tell me something

You are absolutely right. Like rapper Nas used to say; " people fear what they don't understand, hate what they can't conquer."

The only reason a man can get frustrated by women is when they don't behave like he expects them to. Meaning when they don't live up to his ideal Disney princess/mommy type of woman.

Its oke to get burned , and become cautious about going all in with a woman. Every man will go through this at some piont amd youll med that edge to grow character. But in order to be successful with women, you MUST love them. The biggest players and Alphas are gentlemen, extremely chivalrous around women. Even when they're big time criminals who wouldn't blink to take a life.

A lotta men think when women talking about *******s they're talking about mean, evil men. But thats not the case, most of the times these guys are extremely friendly and charismatic. They simply won't commit to her. The don Juans are those "azzholes " women talk about.

Makes sense. If women only reminds you of negative feelings you'll end up hating them. On the other hand, a man whose successful with women will chase more good memories. Even in the manosphere there's not enough emphasis on being simply positive around women.

 

[RazorRambo24]

I think this is how 99% of men learned to do relationships. Sosuave is pretty niche, and I can't deny a place like this thaught me tons of stuff (combined with countless real life experiences and examples). Otherwise I would be an AFC beta blue piller for life, without even being aware of what I am.

Its funny how we always try to impress people around us and even people we don't know. For a bluepilled man getting and keeping a woman is his number one priority in life so other people respect him. His honour goes through her. Her actions will decide his faith.

You are absolutely right. Like rapper Nas used to say; " people fear what they don't understand, hate what they can't conquer."

The only reason a man can get frustrated by women is when they don't behave like he expects them to. Meaning when they don't live up to his ideal Disney princess/mommy type of woman.

Its oke to get burned , and become cautious about going all in with a woman. Every man will go through this at some piont amd youll med that edge to grow character. But in order to be successful with women, you MUST love them. The biggest players and Alphas are gentlemen, extremely chivalrous around women. Even when they're big time criminals who wouldn't blink to take a life.

A lotta men think when women talking about *******s they're talking about mean, evil men. But thats not the case, most of the times these guys are extremely friendly and charismatic. They simply won't commit to her. The don Juans are those "azzholes " women talk about.

Makes sense. If women only reminds you of negative feelings you'll end up hating them. On the other hand, a man whose successful with women will chase more good memories. Even in the manosphere there's not enough emphasis on being simply positive around women.

well said and I agree with that wholeheartedly.. Glad to know that some people on here truly get it.

 

[tightgrp]

but what if she's taller then me???
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inb4 @MatureDJ makes a joke, lol
"It's over for Short-cels"


...But yeah if the girl isn't invested in you and shows you respect it's done-zo.
Too many men care too much about what the girl thinks of himself. He overvalues her judgement and opinions while not valuing himself enough. He must know his worth and his inherent value, when he does he will not tolerate disrespectful behavior or commit people pleasing behaviors for the sake of keeping the woman.

LOL. I think I'm going to target way taller than me b**ches for awhile just for the fun of it.

 

[tightgrp]

Breh.. if you seen how I was with women my entire life, you'd prob follow me like im some cult leader.

Not the cult leader follower type.

 

[tightgrp]

The only reason a man can get frustrated by women is when they don't behave like he expects them to. Meaning when they don't live up to his ideal Disney princess/mommy type of woman.

Best not to GAF. No expectations. Just do your own thing. Periodically invite people to participate and be outcome independent on their decision. And distance yourself from those who don't value you. Most importantly, value yourself and what you do independent of others.