FR: successful library pickup!! sweet stuff!

[golf299]

so there i am sitting in the library doing some homework, but i made sure to position myself so i could check out anyone who comes in. that is very important. but there was me and like two other dudes in there, i guess since it was friday. then this chick walks in.

she walks past me, we make eye contact and smile. shortly thereafter she gets up to go to the bathroom. when she comes back in, she looks my way again and i smile and wave. at this point i know i am going to approach. i give it a couple minutes, pop in a piece of gum and head over to her.

she's sitting with her back towards me, so she never saw me coming til the last second. here's the convo:

me: "hi, i was just sitting over there finishing up my homework before the weekend because it's going to be a crazy busy weekend. then i saw you come in and i wanted to introduce myself." ---i pull up the chair next to her.

her: "hi, i'm HB7."
me: "hi HB7, im golf299...how are you doing?"
her: "i'm stressing out."
me: "over what?"
her: "i have a biology test in less than half a hour."

this goes on for a little bit. she asks me if i have a job, and what im studying. she offers that she is studying psychology and works with kids.

i started to feel like it was kind of an interview, so i said "well, i'll let you get back to you studying so you can do well on your test" to which she repied "no, your fine, you dont have to go."

she had really good eye contact and body language, but no kino. she definitely had high IL. finally i said "i really have to get going, but why don't you give me your number and i'll give you a call when i free up some time next week."

she didnt hesitate. it was golden. probably my best pick up ever.

thanks guys!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Classic textbook pickup.

1. You established a position to see and be seen.
2. You established your presence by establishing eye contact.
3. You established your openness with a smile and wave.
4. Hesitated briefly (more than 3 seconds) but you still approached.
5. Entered her immediate space without asking and was straight forward with your intent.
6. Kept the conversation short, raising her interest level.
7. Great #close establishing that you will contact her if you have time in your busy schedule.

Definitely a gold pickup.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Nice bro

Its PU stories like this that make me proud of all the former AFC's turning into champs.




PIMP

 

[Paradox]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Classic textbook pickup.

1. You established a position to see and be seen.
2. You established your presence by establishing eye contact.
3. You established your openness with a smile and wave.
4. Hesitated briefly (more than 3 seconds) but you still approached.
5. Entered her immediate space without asking and was straight forward with your intent.
6. Kept the conversation short, raising her interest level.
7. Great #close establishing that you will contact her if you have time in your busy schedule.

Definitely a gold pickup.

Ditto. Great job on the pick up golf299.

 

[golf299]

UPDATE!!

i know that im not a true dj yet, but i am definitely dj'ing this girl better than ive ever dj'ed anyone.

so i called her up tonight monday (got her number friday). she didnt answer and i didnt leave a message. about 25 min later she called back but i didnt hear the phone and she left a message saying "i dont really know who this is but call me back." i called her back about 45 min later.

i said "HB7? this is golf299, your mystery caller"
her: "my mystery caller?"
me : "yeah. let me jog your memory. you were sitting in the library on friday, i believe it was, and then the coolest guy you've ever met came up to you...."

then she interrupted me and realized who i was. she then said something about being around a little child so she would call me right back.

she did call back and we continued to chat. i asked her what she was up to and she said she was driving back home to catch the 2nd half of the Raiders-Chiefs game, and that the Raiders are her fav team. i busted her on how the Raiders are sucking it up this year and Gannon is getting to old to play and yadda, yadda.

that was enough for me so i cut to the chase and told her i'd like to meet her for java tomorrow night.
her: "i dont think that is gonna work....i work tomorrow night."
me : "well, what night is good for you?"
her: "thursday i'm off."
me: "ok, well i have class til 9pm, we should get together after that."
her: cheerfully--"that works out great, i get off work at 830"
me: "ok, so i'll meet you at the new starbucks right by school a little after 9 on thursday."

then it was settled. comments?

 

[golf299]

quick question...

should i pay for the coffee for the both of us?

i think i would be more comfortable kiss closing after an action date of some type, so would a hug close after the coffee date be ok, or would it be a "kiss of death"?

 

[killerasp]

it depends. if you get there first you might get your coffee first and vice versa.

I wouldnt pay for it. It just a casual encounter.

a kiss close is all dependent on how the coffee date goes. if there is alot of kind and rapport then go for it. if there isnt alot of kino, i wouldnt recoomend it. it would be weird ifyou havent touched her thoughout the coffee date and then all of a sudden lay a kiss on her lips. if it goes okay, i would just hug close, but a nice tight hug and part your ways.

take it from me after my first date, i wouldnt have kiss closed if i didnt give her a massage to up the ante.

 

[WestCoaster]

Golf -- nice driving and putting! (Pay for the coffee)

Textbook DJing, from the initial encounter to getting the number to calling her, to securing the date.

Hell yes pay for the coffee! God, it's the cheapest date in the world and if you don't pay you look like a chump or a cheapskate or both.

I'm older than a lot here and I always pull out the wallet first. Often a lady offers and I let them pay or split, but usually I tell them to put it away and they're very impressed.

It doesn't matter the seriousness of the date, always offer to pay, then if the lady insists a split or she pay, agree.

Paying is not AFC, it's class and confidence.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by killerasp
it depends. if you get there first you might get your coffee first and vice versa.

I wouldnt pay for it. It just a casual encounter.

a kiss close is all dependent on how the coffee date goes. if there is alot of kind and rapport then go for it. if there isnt alot of kino, i wouldnt recoomend it. it would be weird ifyou havent touched her thoughout the coffee date and then all of a sudden lay a kiss on her lips. if it goes okay, i would just hug close, but a nice tight hug and part your ways.

take it from me after my first date, i wouldnt have kiss closed if i didnt give her a massage to up the ante.

I agree with everything killerasp said. I wouldn't pay for it either for a couple of reasons. I usually get there first so that I can get acclimated with the place while enjoying my brew. This includes small talk with the staff. I find out their names so that if the woman intrigues me enough that I would treat her to a cup, I order it while using the name of the staff member, it lends itself to my mystery.

HB to herself:"Wow, he knows a lot of people, he's very friendly and likable."

Easy IL points.

Finally, I agree that you shouldn't *close unless she has an extremely high IL. So high that it is readily apparent that she wants a kiss. There is a good chance of that if there is a lot of kino during your meeting.

I speak from experience because this is what happened when I met my current girlfriend. After meeting on the Net we got together at a coffee shop on campus. I got there early and was reading a book enjoying a cappuccino. She had to find me herself and after chatting for a minute I called the waitress over by name so she could take her order.

Making a long story short, seven hours later and after numerous attempts at kino on HER part, we left the closing coffee house and I got a MAJOR *close from her at her car.

Oh and by the way, she bought her own cup of coffee.

Also, buying a girl/woman something on an outing generally constitutes a date. I've had more success when there is no undertones that the woman will have to do anything to pay me back for the gift, definitely less pressure on her.

 

[becker]

I agree with WestCoaster here. Since when was it a bad thing to pay for a cup of coffee? Let's not get overanalytical here. Bottom line is, you look like a cheapskate if you don't, and even so, this is one of those areas I feel that until you're serious together, the guy should generally pay most of the time. It's not AFC as long as you don't make a big deal out of it.

Paying is pretty suave if you are cool about it and not all dorky. If a girl loses respect for you because you bought her a cup of coffee, then she's probably not worth your time anyways.

 

[becker]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia


Also, buying a girl/woman something on an outing generally constitutes a date. I've had more success when there is no undertones that the woman will have to do anything to pay me back for the gift, definitely less pressure on her.

Actually, this is a good point, but to me, it's also the same if you pay for the coffee and don't make a big deal out of it. Same effect most likely, but you will have some money in your pocket afterwards if you do it this way.

On the other hand, not being too miserly with your money is also an attractive quality because it shows less materiality, as much as we'd all like to think we're not money-driven beings.

 

[Pap]

Congrats, bro. Daytime Pickup rocks as (unlike in a bar), you don't see lots of guys approaching girls all the time and it demonstates a lot of confidence on your part for opening the girl. Props. Good to see that you were able to get the kiss, and I'm looking forward to your FRs in the future, my man.

Cheers,

Papa

 

[golf299]

UPDATE ON DATE!!

ok, so we had our little coffee date tonight. we agreed to meet a little after 900pm. i went there right after school was out and arrived at about 915pm. she wasnt there so i ordered, sat down and started acting like i was reading a book i brought with me. about 10 min later she showed up. she immediately apologized for being late, and i told her it was all good. (let me tell you right now that as i type i am seeing all the missed opportunities for c+f i had...o well)

as a first topic of conversation i bring up football and the Raiders to try and build rapport from our last convo. she's all about football. after that i focused on her as much as possible. she has a really interesting, important job and we talked about that for a while. she tried to throw the convo onto me, which i accepted for a bit. i told her a little about myself but reverted the convo back to her when i saw a good lead-in. so i found out a lot about her, and she found out a little about me.

starbucks turned the lights off on everyone at 1000pm so we were forced to leave. we walked outside and i initiated the first bit of kino by touching her shoulder and telling her that it was nice meeting her for the coffee date. i said something like "i'll give you a call, we should definitely do this again sometime" to which she agreed. then for some foolish reason i stuck my hand out to shake hers. we halfway shook hands and then i realized what a moron i was and i pulled her in and gave her a hug. that was it.

the only negative thing is that i think she may be older than me. she seems really mature, but i dont know how old she actually is. i didnt want to bring it up on the first get-together and doom my chances to a second outing right off the bat. i know i should have but i pu*sed out.

i'll be 21 in two weeks. what if she is like 24 or something? it doesnt bother me, but what do chicks think about this?

thanks guys for all your help in guiding me to who i am becoming today.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Re: UPDATE ON DATE!!

Originally posted by golf299
ok, so we had our little coffee date tonight. we agreed to meet a little after 900pm. i went there right after school was out and arrived at about 915pm. she wasnt there so i ordered, sat down and started acting like i was reading a book i brought with me. about 10 min later she showed up. she immediately apologized for being late, and i told her it was all good. (let me tell you right now that as i type i am seeing all the missed opportunities for c+f i had...o well)

Now this type of field report is refreshing to read. It's obvious that you retained what you had learned on Sosuave.com. Although you may not have been as smooth as you would have liked, you realize what you could have done differently, that's great!

You just have to work a little on your good byes. This isn't as easy as most would think since as an AFC we would automatically either go in for the *close or hug or play it safe with a handshake.

I only give hugs to women who I've placed in the LJBF category. That only leaves a *close or a handshake. If it's not readily apparent that there is enough chemistry for *close, I go for a modified handshake. This is a type of kino that involves our hands but is obviously not a handshake.

I do this by taking her opposite hand. If I use my right hand, I take her left and if I use my left, I take her right. You can't really do anything with the opposite hand but hold it. With that I look her in the eyes and tell her whatever goodbye line that is appropriate. On occasion, the hand holding and eye contact is enough to prompt a *close.

As for your concern about age, don't sweat it until she brings it up. Women will usually keep quiet about themselves being older until it comes up in some other topic.

For example, my girlfriend is almost seven years my senior, but she never said anything about the age difference until I had told her about my ex wife who was almost 14 years my senior. She then told me that she wasn't sure how I felt about getting into a LTR with a older woman. That was almost a year ago and I haven't heard a peep about it since.

So keep up the good work. You may want to practice some NLP aspects on yourself to prepare for your next meeting with her or any other HB. You know all the theories, you just need to make them your own by putting your signature on them.

 

[One on One]

Hey, good job on the PU man. I hate to tell you this, but you're probably going to lose this one. Let me explain why (and it's not a bad thing). I think both of us are at similar levels. We know the DJ concepts, but still slip into AFC tendencies every once in a while. So, what happens is you use DJ skills and create a reputation that you can't live up to. That's what has happened to me on my last 2 tries, at least. I hope you do better.

Now, here's some advice. The handshake close was bad, but you know that. However, it can be interpreted two ways. Either, she sees you as a wuss, which is not what you want, OR she sees you as a respectful gentleman who doesn't kiss on the first date. Try to act in a way that makes her think it's the latter. On the second date, though, you need to make a move. Don't do a coffee date, either. Choose something unusual so you come off as unpredictable and interesting. A comedy club might be a good choice.

Good luck!

BTW, where do you live (curious since you used the word java)?

 

[Reto]

Great story.

I hate that debate whether a guys should pay or not. Some chicks maybe offended if you make her buy her own. Like your cheap. Some may think that they will "owe"you if you do. My opinion is it depands on the situation and the girl to pay or not.

When I do pay, I usually say "you can get it next time" insinuating a 2nd date. And she usually does.

I do have to hand it to you. You messed up with the closure (hand shake), but you recovered! Well played...

 

[golf299]

UPDATE!

well, i guess you'll never really appreciate the sweet in life if you dont have to taste the sour as well. the situation with this girl went sour.

we went out thursday, had a good time getting to know each other. i called her sunday night to set up an action date for this week. she didnt answer and i didnt leave a message. i called monday night and got this "The number you are calling is not a working number..." i guess i've been nexted. seems a little dramatic to change your phone number though. maybe she just decided to block my number....weird cause i'm certain i didnt do anything to freak her out. o well. there are a couple other prospects. i'll keep you guys updated with success stories hopefully.

 

[MVPlaya]

Originally posted by golf299
me: "hi, i was just sitting over there finishing up my homework before the weekend because it's going to be a crazy busy weekend. then i saw you come in and i wanted to introduce myself." ---i pull up the chair next to her.
her: "hi, i'm HB7."
me: "hi HB7, im golf299...how are you doing?"
her: "i'm stressing out."
me: "over what?"
her: "i have a biology test in less than half a hour."

Tsk, tsk, thanks to you, golf299, she messed up on her biology test.

 

[One on One]

Maybe she had legitimate phone problems and you should call again in a few days. I mean, you haven't even left a message so there's no guarantee that she knows you called. I think it is too early to give up, but definitely give it a few days. No girl in her right mind would change her freaking phone number over something like this so something might be up...maybe you dialed the wrong number.

 

[Pap]

Golf, I'm glad you followed up. Also, she for sure didn't change her number cuz of you. Anyways, keep posting those FRs, bro. A fresh pickup is easy if you are constantly playing the Game and fresh pickups are also easier than reviving old pickups so keep it up, my man.