FR: Out at the pub

Rocko

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Ok guys, I went out to a bar tonight with my cousin and I didn't really start it up with any girls there (was like a 1:3 ratio girls to guys, most were older), so I went there to have a good time. As I began drinking with my cousin, i noticed a 2 set a HB 7.5 and a HB 8. (This will be a little overview of what I SAW going on with them, to show you sort of what NOT to do).

I got there after they had already approached, and one thing I noticed off the bat, was that the guys were sitting next to them pretty awkwardly, not being able to carry out the conversations. The girls would start talking and they would respond, maybe say something funny, but then it would go to silence for a few solid minutes. That is mistake number one if i ever saw it, these guys had to keep up with being Alphas, the center of attention. If you cannot perform in a basic conversation, what makes the girl think you can perform in bed or in a relationship?!? Second thing I saw was that they were NOT initiating kino. It was kinda sad, cuz one of the guys had his arm rapped around the girl's CHAIR, not her shoulder. There was no light brushing, no simple tapping or touching, nothing. After a while, one of the guys tried to gain the attention again by stacking the plate with pretzels on one of the girls drinks. The girl could TOTALLY tell it was a plee for attention, and she backed away even more! After that, the same guy went to rest his elbow on her shoulder, and guess what she did?? SHE TOSSED IT OFF! These guys still had a chance to save it because the girls DID seem into them. Later, they were crackin some jokes and talking (mainly because the girls were asking questions to EACHOTHER and the guys were simply giving input). I don't know how it happened, but when we came back, they were playing spin the bottle. Let me stop here and tell you guys that women relate the first kiss to the way a man will perform not only in bed, but in a relationship. This guy gave a weak performance, didn't even try for a face kiss (went straight for her cheek). The girls ended up leaving together while the guys were left with their right hands. Sorry if this is a bit short or has a lack of detail, a bit drunk is all. Some key mistakes they made:

1. Lack of conversation skills (long periods of silence)
2. Lack of kino (most of the time kept to themselves, even when the girls were forcing them to taste drinks from their straws, they would back away as if it were poison)
3. Lack of DHV or at least SOME value (the HB 7.5 was basically AMOG the whole thing, she was the one talking, the attention was on her)
4. Lack of personality (they seemed awkward in their own skin)

Watching it was very entertaining, because everytime I caught eyes with the HB8, she knew I knew what was goin on. She would stare at me, I would crack a smile and laugh, and she would nod her head and go back to her friend. It made me want to get up and help the guys out, start crackin jokes and tellin em to initiate kino haha, but I am no ****block, wouldn't wanna steal those girls from em, they need it more. Feel free to post any similar stories (once again wanna say that this wasn't me)
 

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Rocko said:
Ok guys, I went out to a bar tonight with my cousin and I didn't really start it up with any girls there (was like a 1:3 ratio girls to guys, most were older), so I went there to have a good time. As I began drinking with my cousin, i noticed a 2 set a HB 7.5 and a HB 8. (This will be a little overview of what I SAW going on with them, to show you sort of what NOT to do).

I got there after they had already approached, and one thing I noticed off the bat, was that the guys were sitting next to them pretty awkwardly, not being able to carry out the conversations. The girls would start talking and they would respond, maybe say something funny, but then it would go to silence for a few solid minutes. That is mistake number one if i ever saw it, these guys had to keep up with being Alphas, the center of attention. If you cannot perform in a basic conversation, what makes the girl think you can perform in bed or in a relationship?!? Second thing I saw was that they were NOT initiating kino. It was kinda sad, cuz one of the guys had his arm rapped around the girl's CHAIR, not her shoulder. There was no light brushing, no simple tapping or touching, nothing. After a while, one of the guys tried to gain the attention again by stacking the plate with pretzels on one of the girls drinks. The girl could TOTALLY tell it was a plee for attention, and she backed away even more! After that, the same guy went to rest his elbow on her shoulder, and guess what she did?? SHE TOSSED IT OFF! These guys still had a chance to save it because the girls DID seem into them. Later, they were crackin some jokes and talking (mainly because the girls were asking questions to EACHOTHER and the guys were simply giving input). I don't know how it happened, but when we came back, they were playing spin the bottle. Let me stop here and tell you guys that women relate the first kiss to the way a man will perform not only in bed, but in a relationship. This guy gave a weak performance, didn't even try for a face kiss (went straight for her cheek). The girls ended up leaving together while the guys were left with their right hands. Sorry if this is a bit short or has a lack of detail, a bit drunk is all. Some key mistakes they made:

1. Lack of conversation skills (long periods of silence)
2. Lack of kino (most of the time kept to themselves, even when the girls were forcing them to taste drinks from their straws, they would back away as if it were poison)
3. Lack of DHV or at least SOME value (the HB 7.5 was basically AMOG the whole thing, she was the one talking, the attention was on her)
4. Lack of personality (they seemed awkward in their own skin)

Watching it was very entertaining, because everytime I caught eyes with the HB8, she knew I knew what was goin on. She would stare at me, I would crack a smile and laugh, and she would nod her head and go back to her friend. It made me want to get up and help the guys out, start crackin jokes and tellin em to initiate kino haha, but I am no ****block, wouldn't wanna steal those girls from em, they need it more. Feel free to post any similar stories (once again wanna say that this wasn't me)
Should have helped them out man, pretend to be drunk walk up to the guy put your arm around him....

You: This guy, this guy, this guy here is a good guy a reallyyyyy good guy, he's a good guy treat him well

And then walk off.... If anything it will get the conversation flowing between them.

Great post by the way, being able to notice little details in your social environment is a great skill to have.
 

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I've always thought that field reports are one of the best ways to pick up theory and tips. Excellent.

Like I said in another post, I now try to start with kino on the shoulder or upper arm (non-threatening areas), even before saying anything, if possible. It seems to get the girl (or any person) out of their inner frame and focus on you. Remember whenever it's happened to you....I recall freezing internally like a deer in headlights. Just don't forget to give a smile and/or be bouncy when you deliver the opener.
 

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AngelusPUA said:
You: This guy, this guy, this guy here is a good guy a reallyyyyy good guy, he's a good guy treat him well

Great post by the way, being able to notice little details in your social environment is a great skill to have.
I was actually gonna help em out when too. Like, one of em got up to go to the RR and I was gonna stop him and be like "look, you gotta be interesting to these girls, start talking man. start with the kino!!" haha, but by the time he went to the RR they were all leaving. Thanks for the positive feedback guys :D
 

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I don't understand, lol.

You went into a pub last night and watched other guys the whole time, lol, you didn't sarge not once. wth?

it's nice you pointed out some things he did "wrong" I mean first off, you don't really know their situation, most masculine guys are more introverted, that doesn't mean the girls didn't go home and fvck their brains out.

Why didn't you just worry about getting you some pvssy flow? I know you came to have a good time, isn't that the point, now pull some chicks into your flow?

I didn't get it? If you came to have so much fun, why were you so worried about what some other guy is doing with a chick he's already bangin? Hell he's fvcked her, she probably is like a house wife to him, why does he need to do anything to impress her?

I don't get how you were "having fun" by worrying about some other guy?
Honestly, it just LOOKS TO ME, that you were to shy and insecure to get your own girls, so to "feel better about yourself" you wanted to point out some "weaknesses" in other guys.

Dude, don't waste your time like that, if you are going out, gooo alll the way out, have fun, get laid, get drunk.

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At times, we wanna play the "hero" and save guys from messing up on their dates. That is fine, but without knowing if their is something wrong, we could just make a fool out of ourselves and the guy could think you are ****blocking.
 

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"1:3 ratio women to men" kinda makes it hard to sarge, especially it being an 18+ bar and I am not even 18. Most of the people there were 20+, didn't really have that going for me.

I had fun, and had even more fun watching the guys, true they may have been introverted, but it was like watching TV for me. A good episode of some reality TV show for singles haha. Think what you would like, I know I am not insecure about approaching girls, I read your posts and I know you aren't either. It doesn't make me feel better to watch other guys burn. I can care less for what people think of me, which is why approaching is one of the easiest parts of the game.

True, I should have gotten some *****, though it possed a challange, I just wanted to post this up for people to learn from others mistakes. Some of my previous FR have been posted so that others may learn from my mistakes.
 

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DonJuanForever said:
I don't understand, lol.

You went into a pub last night and watched other guys the whole time, lol, you didn't sarge not once. wth?

it's nice you pointed out some things he did "wrong" I mean first off, you don't really know their situation, most masculine guys are more introverted, that doesn't mean the girls didn't go home and fvck their brains out.

Why didn't you just worry about getting you some pvssy flow? I know you came to have a good time, isn't that the point, now pull some chicks into your flow?

I didn't get it? If you came to have so much fun, why were you so worried about what some other guy is doing with a chick he's already bangin? Hell he's fvcked her, she probably is like a house wife to him, why does he need to do anything to impress her?

I don't get how you were "having fun" by worrying about some other guy?
Honestly, it just LOOKS TO ME, that you were to shy and insecure to get your own girls, so to "feel better about yourself" you wanted to point out some "weaknesses" in other guys.

Dude, don't waste your time like that, if you are going out, gooo alll the way out, have fun, get laid, get drunk.

DJF
You don't need to pickup every time you go out, sometimes I too enjoy sitting in the club sipping on a martini watching social interactions. You learn so much about people by viewing them in their natural environment.
 
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AngelusPUA said:
You don't need to pickup every time you go out, sometimes I too enjoy sitting in the club sitting on a martini watching social interactions. You learn so much about people by viewing them in their natural environment.
well said mate. couldn't agree more!
 

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