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FR: A night on the town and tons of approaches

suavedave

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Field Report: Approaching tons and getting good reactions!

Ok, here's another one... I am determined to improve my game, so I went out again for a night of sarging.

I started around 6:30 after getting a quick sleep at the library after work. This worked wonders and I was raring to go.


(1) A chick at the library, i see her and I approach. I've been trying to use intuition lately as a means to determin if I should go in and that's what I did... I luckily found an asian cook book so i went down and sat and started reading it. I asked her a question about food and she spoke for a while. She was great, really receptive... almost like she was encouraging me and helping to relax. At one point though she just kind of shut down; perhaps she saw a bit of nervousness so I ejected.

(2) Next stop: A bookstore. I go in and look around for a while. One chick looks hot so I sit down next to her. I picked up a tourist book on china and said, "hey are you chinese." She is and she is super friendly, but also really socialized. Well, this is something I'm working on: If the chick has spent a lot of time in N.A then I immediately back off as I figure they are wise and experienced....... my own problem. I try to avoid those that are better. Svengali has said,

"If you don't know in the first twenty minutes whether or not you're going to have sex with the woman you just met, you're not a seductionist."

I took this to heart and figured right off the bat that she was just really super friendly and not too interested. I think I **** myself over a lot thinking that I'm lesser, but to a large extent it's true. I've really been shy and lazy regarding PU, reading **** too much and not testing it and so not getting the required experience.

Anyway, I took Ross' words to heart as well when he said,

""NEVER ASK A WOMAN FOR ANYTHING (a date, a phone
number.). Instead: 1. Structure opportunities 2. Offer challenges 3.Elicit/evoke processes"

So i didn't ask her for her phone number. Instead I just asked about info about china and "do you know anywhere i can call to get more information about china." Anyway, she did the same thing the Jgirl I met at the library did and kind of gave me a go away signal (at least I think that's what it was....) So that was it I left.


(3) I go to safeway and there are TONS of chicks there. I approach one and ask her about "which one is better?" peaches or appricots. She just says they taste different.

(4) Another one, same place. She works as a volunteer daycare worker. But soon into the conversation she shuts down and turns away. The great thing that I've changed is approaching hotter chicks now-- I'm not super selective but anyone is game.

(5) I see a hot j-girl buying donuts and I ask her if there are donuts in japan. AGAIN she slows me down and really pauses and thinks about the question; the second time a jgirl did this tonight and it's GREAT... again, it's like they intuitively know I'm training myself and so they are giving me a chance. But Jgirls are great inso faras they are really interested in talking and are open and receptive (at least they appear to be).

So we talk for a while and I change the subject a bit... get some rapport going. Eventually we have to go and I invite her for a coffee/beer but she says she lives on the north shore (far away). I realize she probably prepared that line, and thinking back I should have pressed it a bit more.

(6) Subway and there is a philippino chick and we talk about hawaii etc. Really cold at first. I opened with, "Boy it's hot in here" and she makes a small short, "yea." But I continue... and continue despite a major shield up. I notice that from chicks who are in North america a while-- they get approached a lot and so are more reluctant to talk. But I kept it up.

In retrospect I should have used GM style (Grand Master), and said, "You know... I've never had sex with a philippino before.... just kidding." But that's thinking back.

(7) So it turns out that philippinos speak ....x.... i forget now, but I remembered after that conversation. So i see an older philippino and I open with, "...x.. (language) right?" And she says, "yea thats what I speak." So I say, "Oh really, me too!" and she says, you speak philippino? "Yea, it's my native toungue."

Anyway I told her that I didnt... when she thought I spoke philippino she was really interested but immediately backed off later.

(8) I was just fluffing with her because I had seen two J-girls near a bus stop, one was carrying an instrument and I knew that this would be a grea opener. So I get on and say something about the violin. The one is really shy and that throws me off a bit-- the other one speaks.

This is something ****ty about transit-- i got on to speak to them but then had to walk back a few blocks later. So it's a waste of time, maybe Mystery is right when he says,

"[C]lubs are like TRAINING GROUNDS. They are great HOLODECK educational programs. You go in and do lots of approaches to get good. Once you have the skill-set internalized, meeting girls out in cafes and other places is like shooting fish in a barrel."

Anyway, that's on the schedule for wednesday.

(9) Two jgirls on near the bus and I comment on her clothes. She's wearing a shirt on top of jeans and so I get in and sit down. I eventually sit down near her and keep talking about her clothes. But the conversation... I think I got a bit too nervous, not relaxed. I noticed this because this other guy in front of me starting talking to a 3set from mexico. He was so calm, so relaxed, and so funny. I dont even understand spanish but he had me laughing!
 

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(10) One major burn!! this one would have had been down for a while but I recovered, especially when I left the situation. I asked her which bus was going where and then followed up with, are you from china? She totally rejected me and I was left standing there feeling like an intrusive jerk for a while. That was a bummer but a learning experience. I want my mind to move faster in these situation so I can just, in a second forget the whole thing happened.

(11) Another burn when I saw a jgirl waiting for the bus but I approached another chick instead to get a bit of social proof. But she outright rejected me even though my opener was good, (doing construction across the street) "What is going on over there, what are they doing". Anyway, she didnt say anything. So i left. I dont usually go in if I feel too awkward, if I stay relatively in my comfort zone I can help make the other person feel comfortable as well, next.......

(12) KOREANS!! I actually approached a few. I told myself at the beginning of the year that I would slowly release myself from being adverse to them. The first one was not an HB but I hid my glasses and said, "What is the price for that burger" and she said, "6.99". I said wow it must be cheaper in Korea. She didnt smile. Koreans are soo hard to break into I find. I said something else and she LAUGHED! I was so shocked. Immediately after I went up to the counter and ordered and she actually spoke to me again, "Are you canadian?" I said yes, and left. I could have stayed but had no idea how I would continue the conversation.

(13) Another KOREAN! This night has been great. She sits down next to me and is reading a magazine. I say, "Where did you get that (the economist) I havent found it. We fluff and she works as a graphic designer and so on. Eventually I go blank a bit, there's silence, and when the oportunity arises I start talking, but feel a bit ****ty because it seems a bit more forced. I ask something to the effect (again following Ross' advice) Do you have parties to watch the fireworks/the beach at night? She says no... Anyway, I get off because it was getting a bit dull and I didn't want to leave her bored.

(14) Oh, I approached a group of koreans. I asked, "Are you speaking chinese?" and they were totally silent. Mystery really emphasizes approaching groups as a MUST and this was basically the first time I did it-- it was not bad at all.

(15) Getting off the skytrain there's a chinese chick with a bandage on her arm. This is amazing but we totally had rapport and she was not nervous, etc even though it was really late at night and didnt know me at all. I left saying, "Hey you should program something for me," But I couldnt figure out how to close it. Oh well.

(16) This one sucks, really ugly girl I try to say something to her but was listening to music so I have to WAVE at her. She hears me make a comment but I felt so foolish for having done that that I just want to eject and I do.

(17) Another Korean! I go up and see them buying food. So I pick up some pickles and follow them to the check out. I ask them about where I can get Kimchi and we talk about that for a while. But it's hard to transfer out of that and I'm left pretending that I wanted to buy kimchi, etc. So I feel foolish for not being about to make my intentions more clear, but I did get the conversation going.... she was real easy to talk to.

COMMENTS: What I learned is that sometimes you can't just trust you "intuition." I was going to go home after the bookstore girl but decided to stay out. I figured it's late and since my bar/club game is totally non existent I didnt have anywhere to sarge.

Boy was I wrong! I found a great new venue : Supermarkets!!! they are great. Even if you're not buying something just pick up anything and walk around and sarge. Approach all the girls there and see what the heck happens.

My game needs real improvement. A year ago (time flies) I met with a Chinese PUA and he is amazing. I will post more about him but the gist of it is that he could get us invited over within a few minutes of meeting them, and it's taken me two months of constant sarging and I have yet to get invited over. He did all this in a day or so -- he's a natural.

Next-- barriers can be dropped! I used to be against approaching koreans and HBs but I defeated that and am now confortable doing that. Now to work on being interested in white chicks. In addition-- groups, I never thought I would ever do that.

Ok, I see this as just very basic baby steps, and nothing too major. But bit by bit, I think over time it's going to get easier.

Comments welcome... anything you're picking up that I could do different?
 

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Good report.. you have drive.

Your posts were mostly about asians, yet you are in Vancouver.. I take it you are into asians??

I am into asians also.. however, in the city where I live, there are more asians than whites or euro's.

Tips

- Filipino's are from Philippines and speak Tagalog. Ask her "kumasta?" (how are you)

- j-girls are generally quite hard, unless you go to japan, where you will be a novelty. in foreign countries they are easily frightened, and can also appear to be dumb or startled easily. Their english is usually of a poor standard and takes a long time to develop.

- never call a korean "japanese".

- NEVER assume what country she (or they) come from, unless you are an adept , like me :D ..

it is a severe insult to be called CHINESE, when you are other Asian.

with time, you can easily learn to tell them apart. They will be impressed too, if you get it beforehand.

it takes me all of 2 seconds to tell a korean from a jap from a chinese from a thai from an indo from a viet etc. etc.

observe their clothes, english accent (especially), facial look, make up, accessories etc.

May the Feng Shui force be with you.
 

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nice post , you really went into the field and got experience

The funniest part was when you go to the chick and say "Damn this must be cheaper in Korea" That is soooo politcally incorrect, lol

That's the equivalent of saying "How much does the cotton cost over in Africa" lol
 

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dionysius, I disagree with you on a point. Never assume where an asian girl is from, even if you can tell. If you can tell, then they think you have a real big fetish and asian girls, especially westernized ones are turned off by guys with an asian fetish.
Unless of course you are asian yourself, but as a nonasian you should ask them where they are from, not assume and even if you know, ask.
 

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