For those who DO get girls. ONLY for those who do get it!

[Babnik]

I want you to tell based on experience, ONLY experience, and ONLY experience.

I need you to be WHITE American male as well (attraction works different for us, racism here though!).

What I want you to tell me is:

1. What worked for you to lay (not POSSIBLE lay, but REAL LAY) good looking girls? HB7+. There are numerous tactics and ideas and theories and etc. but I want you to tell me how YOU acted and what you used for real to get them. Was there a lot of flirting? Were you really sexual? Or were you just relaxed and had fun and teased her? Did you neg a lot? Were you telling them about your OTHER girls? Were you polite or an *******?

Important question - were those girls cold at first or did they seem real interested from the VERY beginning?


Tell me how it WAS. Not how it SHOULD have been or WOULD have been or COULD have been, but how it WAS.

I want to learn only from that.

Virgins and guys who don't get pretty girls or just those who have IDEAS - please, stay away from this thread. I only want experienced guys.





I just can't possibly see how even a natural guy without SoSuave or even with would use every single tactics here to get a girl. Its WAY WAY WAY too much to remember and then use...seriously.

 

[typical]

Ive had more success after dropping all the stupid games and routines altogether. You use some of the crap here like confident talking and being a man and other stuff. The rest is garbage.

Just talk to these girls as if you were talking to one of your guy mates, dont be shy dont be scared there aint nothing she can do to hurt you. She's just a girl.

The simple way to get laid and get laid quick is isolation, you get the number get the date, take her out to the beach, park, swimming, hiking, whatever you want just not the same boring crap every other guy does. Get her alone get close and lean in for the kiss, if she likes you she'l lean in and let you kiss her.

I met a girl downtown for lunch talked crap over coffee, then grabbed her hand and said its a sunny day lets go to the beach and chill. She's a girl so she wants a man to lead the way. Went to my car drove 30 kms while still talking about crap. Got to the beach parked car got her out of car and went for walk, leaned in after 10 mins and kissed her.

No games no stupid lines no routines, just done what I wanted to do, ended up nailing her on the beach first date.

Thats how easy it is, if the girl isnt willing to go with you anywhere drop her. only go after girls that want to hang out, dont matter if she's really hot, she doesnt co-operate the next one will.

Why ??? Cause your a man now and you dont have the time to run around chasing stupid girls, even the ones you suddenly drop come back cause you are the only guy that had balls to drop her before it even started.

But the key is isolation, once she's alone, she's all yours, game over.

Edit : I'm not white and Ive laid all types of chicks, they work on the same principles, some just take a bit more time then others.

 

[Babnik]

Ive had more success after dropping all the stupid games and routines altogether. You use some of the crap here like confident talking and being a man and other stuff. The rest is garbage.

Just talk to these girls as if you were talking to one of your guy mates, dont be shy dont be scared there aint nothing she can do to hurt you. She's just a girl.

The simple way to get laid and get laid quick is isolation, you get the number get the date, take her out to the beach, park, swimming, hiking, whatever you want just not the same boring crap every other guy does. Get her alone get close and lean in for the kiss, if she likes you she'l lean in and let you kiss her.

I met a girl downtown for lunch talked crap over coffee, then grabbed her hand and said its a sunny day lets go to the beach and chill. She's a girl so she wants a man to lead the way. Went to my car drove 30 kms while still talking about crap. Got to the beach parked car got her out of car and went for walk, leaned in after 10 mins and kissed her.

No games no stupid lines no routines, just done what I wanted to do, ended up nailing her on the beach first date.

Thats how easy it is, if the girl isnt willing to go with you anywhere drop her. only go after girls that want to hang out, dont matter if she's really hot, she doesnt co-operate the next one will.

Why ??? Cause your a man now and you dont have the time to run around chasing stupid girls, even the ones you suddenly drop come back cause you are the only guy that had balls to drop her before it even started.

But the key is isolation, once she's alone, she's all yours, game over.

Edit : I'm not white and Ive laid all types of chicks, they work on the same principles, some just take a bit more time then others.

61 views, 1 reply. This should tell me something.

I hope more than 1 person in reality gets women, so post here!

 

[Ojete]

Ive had more success after dropping all the stupid games and routines altogether. You use some of the crap here like confident talking and being a man and other stuff. The rest is garbage.

Just talk to these girls as if you were talking to one of your guy mates, dont be shy dont be scared there aint nothing she can do to hurt you. She's just a girl.

The simple way to get laid and get laid quick is isolation, you get the number get the date, take her out to the beach, park, swimming, hiking, whatever you want just not the same boring crap every other guy does. Get her alone get close and lean in for the kiss, if she likes you she'l lean in and let you kiss her.

I met a girl downtown for lunch talked crap over coffee, then grabbed her hand and said its a sunny day lets go to the beach and chill. She's a girl so she wants a man to lead the way. Went to my car drove 30 kms while still talking about crap. Got to the beach parked car got her out of car and went for walk, leaned in after 10 mins and kissed her.

No games no stupid lines no routines, just done what I wanted to do, ended up nailing her on the beach first date.

Thats how easy it is, if the girl isnt willing to go with you anywhere drop her. only go after girls that want to hang out, dont matter if she's really hot, she doesnt co-operate the next one will.

Why ??? Cause your a man now and you dont have the time to run around chasing stupid girls, even the ones you suddenly drop come back cause you are the only guy that had balls to drop her before it even started.

But the key is isolation, once she's alone, she's all yours, game over.

Edit : I'm not white and Ive laid all types of chicks, they work on the same principles, some just take a bit more time then others.

Beautiful man. That's how it is really done. If you want to get laid, of course. Well put bro.

 

[MisterNigma]

Chill

The reason this thread isn't getting too many replies is that what you're asking is way too specific. I would never claim to be a great PUA or DJ, I'm not, atleast not yet. Stilll, in my admittedly few experiences certain things were constant.

I won't go into details, but it breaks down to this. The less I cared, the more she responded. I actually thought of her as friend, then things turned a little strange for a bit. We went to the same elementary school. I told her, back in 3rd grade I had a thing for her "puppy love" and well, I guess she felt flattered or whatever. I made a joke out of it, but apparently she took it seriously. Conversation turned more sexual, wasn't anything in particular, just bs, but it was ... well charged. I made fun of her (I din't know about this stuff when i was 18, but in retrospect I was negging her ALOT). Anyway, one thing led to another, dinner, both of us had plenty to drink, and ended up going to watch tv in my hotel room... (this girl was an HB9, hence she stands out above all others)

Since then, I find this to be a bit strange, but the chance encounters I've had were not ones where I was seeking to get a girl. Now I'm trying to figure things out in detail, just like you . . .

I have some definate factors going against me though, so I need to work on alot of things, and this is one of the areas of my life I'd like to improve, that I actually find rather interesting.


-E.Nigma

 

[Cod3r]

Virgins and guys who don't get pretty girls or just those who have IDEAS - please, stay away from this thread.

^ ^ U forgot to add in non-whites lol, can't have us types commenting :wink:



-Cod3r

 

[Phyzzle]

Were you really sexual?

With eye contact.
Glancing at her cleavage while talking to her? Sure.
Saying "what does it take to get you into the sack?" No.

Or were you just relaxed and had fun and teased her?

Yep.

Did you neg a lot?

I don't. Just talking like she's a Normal Human Being, instead of a Beautiful Woman, is 'neg' enough for most.

Were you telling them about your OTHER girls?

I never have. I generally imply that I have an active, busy social life. She gets the picture.

 

[blinkwatt]

Be yourself,look your best,no games,fun dates,I dont know why but meeting their parents always helps me(Most people my age still live with mom & dad),always be confident in what you are doing and that's basically all that I do and it works.

 

[Babnik]

^ ^ U forgot to add in non-whites lol, can't have us types commenting :wink:



-Cod3r

Don't take it the wrong way. Girls who are attracted to black guys are usually not attracted to white guys. I'm white, I can't help it.

 

[Babnik]

About eye contact...I look everyone in the eyes because its just a sign of good communication.

The only way I know of looking seductively in her eyes is to simply look and think "I want you" but thats it... Not sure if thats all there is to it.

 

[persiangino]

1. Always look your best (Name brand clothes, haircut every two weeks, good skin, lift, etc.) 2. Keep a masculine composure/body language 3. approach HB and say "Hi"

 

[Snow Plowman]

I need you to be WHITE American.

Well I ain't white but damn I need to post because you have a lot of limiting beliefs.

This stuff works for everybody, every race, body type, and age. I'm black and I've had great interactions with all races. (Haven't laid all yet) I mainly go for latinas though.

The number one reason that I got laid was because I focused on just having fun. Not once did I go up to them thinking about the end result of me and her in the bed. I'm just laid-back, having fun and having a good time. I don't care if she doesn't react, I don't care if she even walks away or rejects me.

Usually I'd talk and get her laughing and having a good time as quick as possible. I also try to kino as quick as possible. As I talk and talk am always escalating to see how far I can go and if there is any sign of resistance I'd pullback. (I've had girls hand feed me within minutes, kisses quickly, isolation quickly) These kinds of things made me realize this whole thing happens quickly.

If you was to go in approach and say 2 or 3 funny things while kinoing a bit and then go for the number your chances of getting that # would be pretty high.

Flirting, being sexual, teasing, etc. I usually do it depending on how I feel and what I want to do. One thing though, I'm always having fun and playing around. I'm never really polite but then again I'm never a ass. I'm more in the middle.

The ways that I've got laid varies but I can tell you most of the girls that are attracted to you and if there hot. (Many guys chase after her) Then she will start **** testing you if they like you. Most of the time girls who like you will **** test you so expect it. Also most of the time when it gets down to sex you'll get some LMR.

The thing is you don't have to know everything and its always best to learn one thing at a time. One week you work on roleplaying. Another day you work on storytelling. An after awhile you will have your little things that you know naturally.

In my case all I do is open, usually with the dumbest shi1t. Anything I feel like saying I'll say. After I open I quickly start getting attraction. I usually roleplay, FAPs, Cold read, and games. An usually after my first little roleplay there cracking up and thats the first kino that I do. An from there I make sure I'm close enough to the point where some part of my body is touching her. If they try to sh1t test before I even open then I plow but if its while I'm in the set I usually ignore it or just give a wierd look and tell them I'm going to spank them.

After that I'm usually in and just vibing and having fun. If i see the energy is going down I will build attraction again so maybe I'll do a game or a little cold read. Most of the games I try to make it where it involves touching and is very interactive. I used to do alot of storytelling but I realize I don't even need to bother because just with that little amount of stuff I use I keep the interaction fresh.

After when I realize my escalation is pretty good to the point where she...
A. Has high compliance
B. Plays along with my sexual roleplays, comments, or FAPs
C. Accepts my kino on her upper thighs or her brushing her breast on me
I then go for the kiss by triangular gazing (I think this is by far the best and the 2nd best is that rate your kiss routine.)

I always make sure I'm flexible and not just doing the same crap over and over. So I don't even bother using canned material and always just focusing on having as much fun together. Just worry about getting that attraction quick and getting that touch going on quick. I've been getting bolder and bolder. Just today I was so in state that this girl who had food in her hand I actually put my head on her shoulder and she puts the food in my mouth and feeds me. The way I got so bold was because I once seen this guy go into set and kiss close this girl in maybe less than 2 minutes.

Even though I haven't done it but was recommended to me if I ever wanted to learn how to have a better natural conversation was juggler stuff. But you mainly just need to learn how to gain attraction quick and not be scared to escalate. If you worry about just having fun and don't care what happens then you will notice a big difference.

I've notice with this whole mindset and confidence that you get after awhile, you start noticing more girls looking at you and even girls start to approach you!

 

[Tazman]

Girls who are attracted to black guys are usually not attracted to white guys.

I'd say this is more the case with black women, but it probably also has something to do with where you live. I'm black and I've lived most of my life in areas that were predominantly white (I was probably one of 3 black kids in my elementary school, although there was a greater mixture of people when I hit middle school). Game is game, you may have to tweak it a bit depending on the woman and/or situation but don't think the same principles don't apply to most women. There are certain fundamentals that will always remain consistent across ethnicites.

 

[Cod3r]

1. Always look your best (Name brand clothes, haircut every two weeks, good skin, lift, etc.) 2. Keep a masculine composure/body language 3. approach HB and say "Hi"

I think you're persian, he only wants comments from PURE WHITES, no half-whites... please read before you post, tks


-Cod3r

 

[Babnik]

It doesn't work for every race.

There are types of people who are attracted to other types of people.

I, for example, will never ever ever have sex with a black girl. I NEVER found any of them attractive. I'm NOT a racist, but I never liked anything about how they act or look...


Many white girls will never be attracted to black men, ever. Its not a racist thing, its an attraction thing.

Black guys who get laid a lot play these games almost just like you. WHITE GUYS who get laid act completely different....completely different.

 

[Cod3r]

It doesn't work for every race.

There are types of people who are attracted to other types of people.

I, for example, will never ever ever have sex with a black girl. I NEVER found any of them attractive. I'm NOT a racist, but I never liked anything about how they act or look...


Many white girls will never be attracted to black men, ever. Its not a racist thing, its an attraction thing.

Black guys who get laid a lot play these games almost just like you. WHITE GUYS who get laid act completely different....completely different.

I've laid, white girls, azn girls, hispanic girls, actual spanish girls, jamaican girls, trinidad girls, indian girls.....

Why stop at race ?? Some girls simply aren't attracted to short guys or simply aren't attracted to bodybuilders... does that stop any of us from trying ?? My girl said if she never talked to me and I was up against a wall with other guys more her physical type.... she would NOT pick me... well guess who's been in a LTR for 9 months now and turns his girl on everynight... *points at self*

I changed her perception with something called... GAME... u really should get some

You're game is DEFEATIST... work on that, i actually feel sad for u... i really do


-Cod3r

 

[DarkLight]

Alright, here goes...

Its more simple than all the analytics of game would lead you to believe. Like Typical said... its about command. Both command in action, and within yourself. On top of that... its about the elements that make your command a treat to follow. Your unique value, your personal style, etc. Whatever it is that makes you 'seem' hotter/cooler sh!t than the next guy. Even if its the typical sh!t (no pun intended)... like the way you hold yourself, speek, relate, dress, etc. It all comes down to what about you seduces the girl. The command pulls her, cause of its masculine charge and strength. The seductive cool qualities intoxicate her into you being 'the dream.'

Some of the hottest chix I've bedded, have all been through such standard protocol "game." Social value, style, abilities to connect and rap w. them on a cool, powerful, fun, seductive level. Its like you just try to stack as many elements of game in your corner, and then drive that play w. the strength of your ballz.

Let me give you an example of this gorgeous dutch girl. The night was so fvckin perfect in regards to the philosophy and elements of "game", I just have to laugh looking back on it (this was before I knew of the community).

I strut my ass into this club one night, in upbeat powerful cool. And while walking to the bar, this insane dark haired chick is walking towards me, w. the most incredible fake tits I've ever seen. She's wearing this little pink dress... and I notice she's owning the total attention of the room. I connect w. her eyes, still just as cool unphased as I walked through the door, say "hey"... w. natural positive coolness... she says "hi" back. She goes to the bar, only spot open is next to her... I gladly flow w. the opening . Spark up a little idle chit chat, nothing special... but confidently cool, and a pleasent interaction. She walks away back to her seat. Now I'm just taking my first step peeping the club out, and I see her chillin at a table solo. Just as easily I take the the initiative (command) to see if she's here solo, and join her. She gladly accepts. As why not... so far the totality of my interaction w. her has been light, cool, charming, confident, suave, pleasant. She knows that I'm value, through my balls, my easy socializing, my not being phased by her looks, my dress, my EC, the totality. So I sit down, we start rapping about this and that... connecting on levels of mutual interest, having a laugh here and there. I say whats up to the lead singer of the band about to perform (met him on the day earlier, in the same non-chalance flow of life), another friend I know comes around says whats up to me. I join him in on the conversation. Now I'm bringing more value to her night, thus being more value in her eyes. Now this was interesting... some guy came up and started to TRY and chat her up. I look over, peep his interaction w. her... and because my frame was so strong, I just go back to rapping w. my friend, knowing he doesn't have sh!t on me. In retrospect, this was powerful in her eyes... I was now THAT confident and secure, or indicated I could care less (even if he was succesful). Anyways... when the end of the night comes around, I mention to go back to another after hours bar I knew (where everyone was going). About 60 feet outside the bar, she stops me in the rode and lays this horny passionate kiss on me.

(Now dig it... at that point in my life, if you were to show me a picture of this chick, I would have thought she was WAY out of my league. But, the quality of my interaction, the true value of who I am vs. her, and all the elements of social value totally flipped the script on this girl. She was the one going for the kiss on me. I was just enjoying my night, in high-class cool liesure. Taking command when need be, but otherwise just suave'ing a sexy fun time.

Anyways... while you think that story might be attributing more to the power of social-proof/value... point is, the elements of charm were there to grease the connection that command assumed. I simply floated through the moments, being a cool cat of power. Fun and showing her what my world was like.

Dig it....... CHICKS WANT THE DREAM!
They dire to be seduced by a socially savvy, powerful man of value and style.
BE THAT MAN!

Tickle her when it would be a charming, sexy, spontaneous thing to do.
Check her tests w. all-powerful authority, yet in such grace she can only marvel, and stamp you an A+.
Delight her w. kinky fun EC, playing the game of seduction her kitty-kat nature meows for.
Let her lick your milk, as you scratch behind her ear! lol... you w. me!?

Not only are you the Actor of this movie your offering her the role of her dreams to play in... your the FVCKING DIRECTOR, PRODUCER, and goddamn CRAFT SERVICE MAN.

Bring her into your dream through command and suave seductive charm. Let her giggle the way she wants to. Rub the side of her arm, w. the back of your finger, while she's talking to someone else. Give her eyes that own her soul, but do so in a way, that she grants you that position of power.

Now before this gets too Casanova, understand... that if charming her is dropping a ****y/funny prick of a line and a smirk, than do that! Blow her a kiss after, w. a face that says... "I know you love me, how can you not!" But all in "I get it" fun.

Got it!?

Peace'

 

[persiangino]

I think you're persian, he only wants comments from PURE WHITES, no half-whites... please read before you post, tks


-Cod3r

LOL. For your sake, i hope you're joking.

 

[Babnik]

Alright, here goes...

Its more simple than all the analytics of game would lead you to believe. Like Typical said... its about command. Both command in action, and within yourself. On top of that... its about the elements that make your command a treat to follow. Your unique value, your personal style, etc. Whatever it is that makes you 'seem' hotter/cooler sh!t than the next guy. Even if its the typical sh!t (no pun intended)... like the way you hold yourself, speek, relate, dress, etc. It all comes down to what about you seduces the girl. The command pulls her, cause of its masculine charge and strength. The seductive cool qualities intoxicate her into you being 'the dream.'

Some of the hottest chix I've bedded, have all been through such standard protocol "game." Social value, style, abilities to connect and rap w. them on a cool, powerful, fun, seductive level. Its like you just try to stack as many elements of game in your corner, and then drive that play w. the strength of your ballz.

Let me give you an example of this gorgeous dutch girl. The night was so fvckin perfect in regards to the philosophy and elements of "game", I just have to laugh looking back on it (this was before I knew of the community).

I strut my ass into this club one night, in upbeat powerful cool. And while walking to the bar, this insane dark haired chick is walking towards me, w. the most incredible fake tits I've ever seen. She's wearing this little pink dress... and I notice she's owning the total attention of the room. I connect w. her eyes, still just as cool unphased as I walked through the door, say "hey"... w. natural positive coolness... she says "hi" back. She goes to the bar, only spot open is next to her... I gladly flow w. the opening . Spark up a little idle chit chat, nothing special... but confidently cool, and a pleasent interaction. She walks away back to her seat. Now I'm just taking my first step peeping the club out, and I see her chillin at a table solo. Just as easily I take the the initiative (command) to see if she's here solo, and join her. She gladly accepts. As why not... so far the totality of my interaction w. her has been light, cool, charming, confident, suave, pleasant. She knows that I'm value, through my balls, my easy socializing, my not being phased by her looks, my dress, my EC, the totality. So I sit down, we start rapping about this and that... connecting on levels of mutual interest, having a laugh here and there. I say whats up to the lead singer of the band about to perform (met him on the day earlier, in the same non-chalance flow of life), another friend I know comes around says whats up to me. I join him in on the conversation. Now I'm bringing more value to her night, thus being more value in her eyes. Now this was interesting... some guy came up and started to TRY and chat her up. I look over, peep his interaction w. her... and because my frame was so strong, I just go back to rapping w. my friend, knowing he doesn't have sh!t on me. In retrospect, this was powerful in her eyes... I was now THAT confident and secure, or indicated I could care less (even if he was succesful). Anyways... when the end of the night comes around, I mention to go back to another after hours bar I knew (where everyone was going). About 60 feet outside the bar, she stops me in the rode and lays this horny passionate kiss on me.

(Now dig it... at that point in my life, if you were to show me a picture of this chick, I would have thought she was WAY out of my league. But, the quality of my interaction, the true value of who I am vs. her, and all the elements of social value totally flipped the script on this girl. She was the one going for the kiss on me. I was just enjoying my night, in high-class cool liesure. Taking command when need be, but otherwise just suave'ing a sexy fun time.

Anyways... while you think that story might be attributing more to the power of social-proof/value... point is, the elements of charm were there to grease the connection that command assumed. I simply floated through the moments, being a cool cat of power. Fun and showing her what my world was like.

Dig it....... CHICKS WANT THE DREAM!
They dire to be seduced by a socially savvy, powerful man of value and style.
BE THAT MAN!

Tickle her when it would be a charming, sexy, spontaneous thing to do.
Check her tests w. all-powerful authority, yet in such grace she can only marvel, and stamp you an A+.
Delight her w. kinky fun EC, playing the game of seduction her kitty-kat nature meows for.
Let her lick your milk, as you scratch behind her ear! lol... you w. me!?

Not only are you the Actor of this movie your offering her the role of her dreams to play in... your the FVCKING DIRECTOR, PRODUCER, and goddamn CRAFT SERVICE MAN.

Bring her into your dream through command and suave seductive charm. Let her giggle the way she wants to. Rub the side of her arm, w. the back of your finger, while she's talking to someone else. Give her eyes that own her soul, but do so in a way, that she grants you that position of power.

Now before this gets too Casanova, understand... that if charming her is dropping a ****y/funny prick of a line and a smirk, than do that! Blow her a kiss after, w. a face that says... "I know you love me, how can you not!" But all in "I get it" fun.

Got it!?

Peace'

Jesus... but regardless....look at what you did. You approached her first, you sat next to her, she MOVED and you came to her yourself and invited yourself, right? Or I misread something...so you were still kind of chasing her and you were still impressing her, but you did so by being in control and giving her that dream. Its like impressing but being subtle...impressing by being what a woman truly wants.

 

[Babnik]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!