For shy nerds: A solution that works!

[TheRealSupreme]

They say public speaking is the number one fear even over death. That was from a survey long ago. In truth 75% of the population has a total fear of speaking in public.

I recommend you guys joining a local toastmasters club chapter. You can find information at:

http://www.toastmasters.org/

If you have a fear of women just think what conquering the number one fear will do to your fear of women.

I belong to toastmasters and I am a professional public speaker now. That means I get paid for it.

When I showed up I won 13 contests ribbons in a row and went on two win in my division speech contests.

Now I know that is hard for some of yall to believe but being true to who I am let me show you:

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I push toastmasters on all of the players who join my own site. I have seen what it has done in my own life and so many others.

I have seen very shy people open up and blossom in their own lives.

One of the main problem with nerds is that you guys lack communication skills. Yes you can use a word document and you have learned your grammar lessons well, but speaking and typing are two different worlds.

Toastmasters will teach you how to be a effective communicator.

It will teach you how to over come your fears. Those of you with that made up issue called AA or Approach Anxiety, you will see yourself gain control over your petty little issue and master it.

You will learn how to use your voices with power and poise when you deliver a speech.

You will learn how to use your bodies. Many nerds do not exist in their bodies and are stuck in their heads. If your one of em ..you will see it go away.

But most of all you learn how to open your mouth and speak.

enuff said.

 

[trv26]

Lol, I haven't done a single presentation in my years at univeristy. Gave classes a miss every single time I'm meant to do one.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Thank you! I am the worst person I know at giving presentations. People always say how they get nervous giving presentations in front of a class. That pisses me off. They don't know how it is for me.

The secret is to do more public speaking. Take some marketing classes. Educational, and you get lots of presentation experience. Toastmasters is an excellent choice too.

 

[TheRealSupreme]

The secret is to do more public speaking. Take some marketing classes. Educational, and you get lots of presentation experience. Toastmasters is an excellent choice too.

I disagree. Let me show you the error of your thinking and why nerds do not make good teachers on this site:


I have taken lots of marketing classes. This was back when I was in college. As proof here is a buzz word: Marketing Mix.

1. Now how is doing marketing presentations going to help him learn basic communication and leadership skills when he can't even do a presentation to begin with?

2. How is marketing class going to help him over come his fear?

3. Why not get the teaching on how to do it first and get a lot of practice and leadership training first. And if he has no interest in marketing why even take a college class that costs lots of money too boot?

Toastmasters is $40.00 for I believe 6 months.

Plus your learning the real thing to begin with not a side ways thing.


Finally and off topic:

Also you do a lot of posting on here. You should be careful how you offer advice. Take if from me. I was here long ago and posting can become addictive.


Look at my stats:

Join Date: 12-18-2007
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Total Posts: 382 (0.87 posts per day)



Now look at yours:

Join Date: 05-25-2008
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Total Posts: 736 (2.64 posts per day)


Sometimes we just need to unplug from the net. You don't have to try to respond to every post on the board fella.

It will be ok.

This is just my opinion and I don't want to argue about it. You have every right to object and I am 100% positive you will. I just won't answer it.

Why bother. It's just opinions.

 

[FireOnTheMountain]

I've heard about this group quite a lot, and have considered going. I have pretty bad communication skills. And yes, I've also considered taking marketing classes. When I was in college, I tried taking theatre classes and participating in plays as a way of improving.


I'm not afraid of public speaking at all. In fact, I am pretty good at public speaking. What I am terrible at is conversation and interpersonal communcation--It's really not the same as public speaking. Do you agree?

The voice one uses during presentation isn't the same as in conversation.




Do they practice conversation/personal communication at Toastmasters meetings? I would definitely go if they did, or if there was a similar organization for that.

 

[bcmrcool]

Is Zenmack still up? I tried going and it says "access forbidden"

 

[bcmrcool]

why did you guys ban player supreme?

 

[Alle_Gory]

I disagree. Let me show you the error of your thinking and why nerds do not make good teachers on this site.

No sh*t nerds don't make good teachers. That's why they're nerds. Marketing presentations will force him to overcome his fear of public speaking, he will learn some human psychology, and develop some speaking skills.

Marketing is do or fail. You're judged not only on the content, but how you captivate the audience and present the content.

The meek, shy, nerdy kids WILL fail a marketing class if the teacher is worth their salt.

Toastmasters is $40.00 for I believe 6 months.

Toastmasters is the same thing. It teaches speaking skills, not social communication. But they are closely tied.

You have every right to object and I am 100% positive you will. I just won't answer it.

A post where you don't show ego, anger, or attitude. This is a treat.

I agree. I should spend less time here. Its already taking up all of 15min/day.

 

[GQ_Confidence_1]

I'll add my 2 cents about toastmasters...

Belonged a few years ago, from about mid 2002 to 2004. A side benefit of joining was meeting some nice people, had a good time outside of the group. Also met some really hot professional women...like 30's, mid 30's. 7's, 8's, 9's. Also, they had parties...christmas parties, halloween parties, etc. It could be good socially, but each group is different.

For me, fear of public speaking was only exacerbated by a terrible highschool environment. Its hard to do well or be confident if your school is unsafe or dangerous. The typical highschool environment for communication is totally whack....to use 90's slang.

But communication skills are huge. Dont memorize routines or game if you dont have good or at least decent communication skills.

Toastmasters is more professional and the real thing. I think many teens with a serious fear of public speaking, or social anxiety/nervousness would do so much better if they could skip the highschool experience...and all the nervousness, anxiety, pressure that comes along with it. Everyone has a natural speaking ability, and ability to communicate, but it takes a relaxed mind and repetition/development.

Toastmasters is about repetition, skill development. You start with a series of basic speeches, and continue to more advanced lists. Theres also "table topics", where someone picks a subject/category...and everyone in the group has to go up and do a little spontaneous 2 minute speech about it. And the word of the day, and other things. But worth checking out.

 

[Connor99]

They say public speaking is the number one fear even over death

This is true when sober lol which is why people pre-drink and drink more at the bar when they socialize lol who needs to pay somebody $$ to over come that fear when you can just have a few beers lol

 

[Kaim Argonar]

I've been a Toastmasters member for a few months. People have said that they've been really dazzled by my speeches, and I won a few awards. However, I disagree with the premise of this thread. Perhaps it's because I already had very good communicational skills, but from everything I've seen although it's certainly better than doing nothing I don't see how it's something that will help the shyer guys out there.

The thing is that flirting with women and people is something ambiguous and every reunion there follows very strict, pre-defined roles and procedures. Not only that but there's a forced PC attitude that's very different from the real world. In the real world people can be objective and are not forced to praise you or interact with you.

I don't think that a shy guy's main problem would be communication skills. Simply, it would be interaction with women in contexts where the social interaction is improvised and the roles completely ambiguous. If a guy attempts to talk to a new woman she is going to do whatever she feels like and she might ignore what the guy says, or not partake in the conversation, be rude, or whatever. In this group people are forced to be receptive and appreciative of anything you say.

As for meeting women there, well seeing as groups are closely knit and you don't have the possibility to talk someone else in the group without there being a crapload of other people around you, I don't see how it could be proclusive to that.