Focus on Getting Laid - Leave the Relationship Stuff to Her

Jariel

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I know most of us, if not all of us, meet that special lady from time to time who is "different from the rest", who we love spending time with and perceive as relationship material.

There's nothing wrong with that and if you meet a girl like that, then of course you'll want to snap her up! You're not doing yourself any favours by running away and banging some low quality slvt just to keep your feelings in check.

However, the big mistake guys make is pursuing this chick differently to all others. They'll start gaming her for a relationship, rather than for sex. They'll try to pull some Hollywood sh!t, act romantic or try to portray themselves as one of the good guys who would make a great boyfriend. And this is destined to fail.

9 times out of 10, women are the ones who decide the status of a relationship.

As men, we need to focus on triggering her physical instincts and getting laid. Instead of telling her how you love her company and how beautiful her eyes are, you should be making sexual jokes, suggestive comments, touching her and describing the things you want to do to her. Get her excited and get her into bed and you're doing your part.

Many guys are afraid if they act this way they'll scare this chick away, cos "she's different". They hold back on the physical stuff because they want more than just sex, but before they know it they're heading the same route as all the other asexual AFCs she puts in her friendzone.

So, what next? Just keep banging her when you get chance, have fun around her, joke, flirt and tease, but never speak of relationships. Let her chase you and when and if the time is right, she will make that decision.

It's a valuable lesson I learned this year. I developed oneitis for a number of girls and found that I was gaming them differently to the ones I just wanted to fvck. Every time, the girls I was pursuing as GF material ended up backing off, standing me up and brushing me off with some "I just need space" type speech. The girls I just wanted to fvck, on the other hand, would not leave me alone (in fact I'm still getting texts from them months later). They want more from me now and some have acted quite obsessively.

Since then I started to treat my oneitis girls the same way I treat the girls I want to bang and it's brought success. I even told my last oneitis about some of the girls I was dating and how wild one of them was in bed. It went against every instinct I had because I was scared she'd see me as a player and disqualify me as relationship material. She got jealous, even seemed p!ssed off, but that same night everything changed and she basically offered herself to me. Secretly I wanted her as my GF, I had butterflies in my stomach whenever I saw her, but I just acted like I wanted to have some fun. I did bang her and we had plenty of fun, but that was all I asked from her. As time went by we got closer and she initiated the relationship we have now.

Women (and men) are scared of committing to relationships too soon. Relationships carry risks of people getting hurt and once you get involved, you lose your options. It's a big decision and, as with all big decisions, women need to "try before they buy" and they don't appreciate some sales person laying on the hard sell.

It's also worth paying attention to women who get played by jerks. He gets with her and gets laid, then once he's got what he wants, he backs off. Meanwhile, she's gutted and feels used because she wants more from him. She moans on Facebook about hating all men, she whines to her friends and cries to herself, but can't stop thinking about him and chasing him.

Now, had he took her on dates, brought her flowers and treated her like a girlfriend, she'd have kicked him to the curb long before he even got to see her naked.
 

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This kind of hits home for me..

I met a quality girl who I saw a future with.

When the relationship started she would move the earth to be with me.

The more I realized I wanted to be with her, the more I placated.

She dumped me over the phone when it ended.. I didn't even rate high enough for a face to face breakup.

First time I had been dumped in 10 years, all because I thought she was different and started doing things her way in an effort appease her.

Lesson learned.. treat them all the same.. I am not saying treat them badly, just don't make any concessions for them..
 

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Good post, Jariel!

I second this. It's our job as men to **** women. It's their job for relationship and stuff. So get out there and get the job done.
 

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Gunwitch a.k.a Allen Gun Reyes has already given this advice in his book but thanks for re-posting it. Not many have read his book anyway.
 

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Alchemystic said:
Gunwitch a.k.a Allen Gun Reyes has already given this advice in his book but thanks for re-posting it. Not many have read his book anyway.
I've not read this book, but I used to hate Gunwitch's posts on this forum a couple of years ago. I thought he was disrespectful and sleazy. The funny thing is all this time later, I am able to see the value of his advice.

I guess I've got in touch with my inner jerk mentality this year and am finally seeing what all the pick up artists and players are onto.
 

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Good post. The problem is of course within ourselves... many guys tend to fall in love quickly and forget the whole point: weren't we on a mission to ****? Maybe that is the question have should ask ourselves... Maybe deep inside we wanted more than just sex with the girl.
 

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This is one of the best posts I have seen in a long time. Simple and to the point.

I think a lot of the problem comes from men just being total afcs when it comes to women and lack of experience.

For example most guys when starting out they see a pretty girl and immediately fall in love and see themselves in a beautiful relationship. I bet you not even women are this naive!

A man sees a hot woman and second later starts imagining her being his girlfriend when instead he should be focusing on how to game her and sex her. Take it one step at a time.

I do think a lot of this goes away as we gain more experience with women and we no longer see any beautiful woman as an angelic being that is destined to be our girlfriend but rather a piece of a$$ I want to get (which ends up bringing in the results).

If we approach women with the intentions of making them our girlfriend rather than to seduce them that usually leads to failure.
 

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f283000 said:
If we approach women with the intentions of making them our girlfriend rather than to seduce them that usually leads to failure.
Absolutely. My experience is the same. Most girls I just want to fook. But once in a while I would meet one that I thought was perfect for a LTR. I would treat them completely differently. I would almost not care about sex and not even try to seduce her. I would wait as long it took because I was more concerned about making her my gf and getting a relationship going. But I always failed this way. I didn't get sex or a relationship. I got dumped or friendzoned.
 

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Just would like to add that my experience has been the same.

The girls I have sex with and I just want sex from and nothing else basically all seem to chase me.

The ones I want (or think i want) to be in a relationship with and am "nicer" to all run away.

It never fails.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Spot on Jariel as always. Even my dad told me that "Most relationships start out as f&ck buddy arrangements, but nobody will admit it."

Once in a while, I'll meet a great woman, so much so that I don't care how long it takes to have s@x with her. I want to prove that I'm
different than the other guys and want her for more than her body. I've always failed in that situation. I should have focused on hooking up with her and giving her great s@x. Then the rest would have fallen in place. Women are ultimately ruled by their vaginas and who makes it tingle. Plus they get attached to who they are hooking up with regularly.
 

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#hey good point..

but I had this little thought

cause ANTI DUMPS machine waits a really long time for sex.. to find a HIGH INTERESTED GIRL# this is also what im looking for


** when you treat the girl nice and like an ltr. and she leaves you ..MAYBE just bacause she was mainly NOT HIGH INTERESTED

of course you could make her ineterested or "attached" with or trought sex
and all the girls who are "into" you when they have sex with you..MAYBE they are JUST UNTERESTED in the SEX and NOT YOU

I know i can make a girl crazy for me with sex (cause we dj are sexgods :D) ...BUT! if in some months or even years! I find out she doesnt even like me that much...OBOY!!!!!!!!!!!!

then thank god all the girls from ** left me THANK GOD THEY LEFT

:DDDD

just my 2 cents

if a girl ist HIGH INTERSTED she will wait for the sex
the best sex is when ist mutual

##########################################

what do you think?
 

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I agree. The woman is the one who should be asking for a committed relationship. If you turn her on enough and she deems you to be relationship material, she'll be the one begging you for a relationship.

When guys are the ones asking for a relationship they end up coming off as needy. When a woman wants are a relationship, she'll let you know!
 

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It's funny how true this post is in every way..
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Jariel my man! I should hit myself in the head with a sledgehammer... I always knew this... but there is just a little afc hidden in me... time to chop it's head off..
 
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