Flirting vs. just messing around

Effington

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I've been hanging around a bunch of girls lately that are total flirts. What I mean by this, they're very touchy-feely with everyone, and often take the conversation dirty. There's one girl in particular, who is probably the hottest of the group (although they're all gorgeous), who leads the crew. She's the one that turns all the other girls into flirts when they're out with her. Lately we've become very close friends, yes I'm like her gay friend, and even though we're just buddies and the boundries have been set, I still feel like she crosses them with me. Her boyfriend is away a lot (he's in a touring band) and she calls me once or twice during the week to go out to dinner and drinks, along with every weekend. It's like a date except we split the bill and I'm not getting any. The last three weekends have ended up with us both getting trashed and her sleeping in my bed (although that was partly my doing since I live in a studio and don't have a couch for her to crash on). Even though we aren't going to have sex, it is pretty damn painful to have a hottie in your bed with you and not do anything about it.

At this point I like going out with her for credibility. I get looks from everyone in the bar when I walk in with her, it's great. I point out girls I think are cute and she initiates conversation. She's the ultimate wingman.

Anyway, while I'm totally friend-zoned, she still flirts all day with me. I don't complain and of course reciprocate, however I know her intentions. That brings me to the point...I met a new girl last week and we were flirting pretty good, all was good, and I know she's single, but how do I know she's actually flirting and interested as opposed to just messing around?

I had a conversation about this with a female coworker and she agreed that she flirts with guys even if she has no interest; it's just how she acts. So...how do you tell? Kino is already escalated to the point where we're feeling each other up and doing everything except making out, but apparently that's not an indicator of interest?
 

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Ramble ramble ramble. Make a f*cking move ace.
 

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but how do I know she's actually flirting and interested as opposed to just messing around?
Dude seriously? You've been on this board for how ****ing long and you're still asking this?

Just kiss her man. The yes or no will be pretty clear after that.
 

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If it's a social circle, then escalate kino with her and read her body language when you do so.
 

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Effington

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Wolf said:
Girls like that suck. I make it oh-so-obvious to them that I want nothing to do with them, recently a flirty chick who LJBF'ded me was ALWAYS flirting with me, even though she told all her friends I'm a total freak. So I just said outright "Stop talking to me, I want nothing to do with you." I was really pissed off that she was all nice and flirty to my face and was telling her friends and even MY friends that I am a loser and a freak behind my back. More so at the fact that she had the nerve to say to MY friends I'm a useless loser after "tickle-fighting" AKA groping me like 2 minutes beforehand. I see this girl everyday, haven't spoken to her since and she hasn't made so much as eye contact with me over the hours we have to spend together. But it is definitely for the best, she was right little mind-fvcker. She's currently fake-flirting all my mates (really, really flirting). They have all asked her out bar one, she has rejected each and every single one of them and told all her friends about each and every one of them too. God I hate that girl.

My advice to you is to cut contact with her. You will NEVER get in her pants, ever. Even ignoring her, forget Ganji games, you will never ever ever ever have sex with this girl so don't put yourself through all the bollocks of her flirting with you.

The guys telling you to make a move have probably not experienced a very flirty girl/made a move on them themselves. I see it happen all the time, not just with the girl I was talking about, others I know too, but they have the decency to not spread it if you make a move on them and aren't two-faced. Still bad though, as you said having a hottie in bed without sex or even kissing is very painful.

Enjoy not being led on :)
Maybe the direction of my post was unclear. I don't care that my girlfriend flirts with me even though she has a boyfriend, I'm just trying to tell the difference between her, and new girl that is single that flirts. I guess the answer is just to make a move, but since we all have essentially the same friends it would suck if things ended awkwardly.

I can handle the flirting; it brings attention to YOU when a hot girl flirts with you, especially when you then give your attention to some other girl. She's the ultimate wingman.
 

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I think its just down to the fact different girls "flirt" for different reasons, and there is really only one way to find them out...
 
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