flaking

[pete101]

if you get into a negotiation of when to meet on the phone with a HB is that likely to be a flake is on the cards?

my saga with this HB despite guys telling me its over 'may' still be on but im not holding my breath cos you guys are the experienced ones here and know better than me what the likely result is.

i called her i did the usual c+f stuff made her laugh then after tried to date close, suggested tuesday cos i was going to be at the place where she is due to a prior engagement.

she says she can but not sure yet till tomorrow cos her friends are visiting and staying the night but should be gone by the time we're suppose to meet..

to me this sounds like a flake.. but i kept pushing for a time later in the week which was definite but she would return with 'no no tuesday should be fine but i can't let you know till tomorrow'

then we start getting into details of why she has to let me know tomorrow like her friends may not come, but even if they did they'd be gone in time.. and i kept reiterating the fact i was going to be in her area anyway regardless.. i guess it comes of needy and desperate rather than being convenient to meet?

is she likely to flake on me? im just preparing for the fact i'd need to respond to something like 'oh my friends are coming so won't be able to make it..' or she'll say yes then cancel couple hours before.. it's like she has 2 opportunities to flake now.

and if she does how long should i wait to try one more time for a meeting this week without looking desperate?

seems like c+f can only get me so far..

 

[ARrocket]

If she flakes, wait at least 2-3 weeks before trying again. And try to let her know subtly about any other girls that are interested in you.

As for whether or not she will flake, I can't answer that. I have nowhere near enough experience.

 

[ezily]

No you should have just ended the conversation. Tell her to be there at a certain time. Don't negotiate. She will most likely flake. I bet she'll send you a text or something. I would just tell her to be there. If she doesn't show up or flakes then next her. But be sure to call her out on her flake (even after what you did). Just do it in a playful way and tell her that she owes you and needs to call you and set something up in the future. Don't call again until she calls you. If she likes you she'll call you. If not then forget about her.

 

[pete101]

2-3 weeks? or days?

bear in mind also this is a random facebook HB im meeting so we've never met.. and with my other thread they all told me it was over..

i think i just got lucky cos i made the call and had a talk and made her laugh. hmm.. it did feel more like a friendly convo rather than it leading to something romantic.. i had no other weapons apart from c+f.

 

[pete101]

No you should have just ended the conversation. Tell her to be there at a certain time. Don't negotiate. She will most likely flake. I bet she'll send you a text or something. I would just tell her to be there. If she doesn't show up or flakes then next her. But be sure to call her out on her flake (even after what you did). Just do it in a playful way and tell her that she owes you and needs to call you and set something up in the future. Don't call again until she calls you. If she likes you she'll call you. If not then forget about her.

see this would work if i'd actually met her before.. cos if im some random internet dude i doubt she's going to go through the trouble..

would you still suggest the same course of action with the flake?

realistically im expecting a text to tell me she cant.. or she'll cancel last minute cos her friends haven't left yet.

i dont see why she couldn't just give me a definite time later in the week?

is it cos she won't be able to flake as easily with tuesday because she has a good excuse set up?

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

2-3 weeks? or days?

bear in mind also this is a random facebook HB im meeting so we've never met.. and with my other thread they all told me it was over..

i think i just got lucky cos i made the call and had a talk and made her laugh. hmm.. it did feel more like a friendly convo rather than it leading to something romantic.. i had no other weapons apart from c+f.

That sorta changes things, doesn't it? You kinda left this little tidbit out of your first post.

I'd say she's quite liable to flake, cuz meeting a random internet chat buddy in person can be scary for a girl, if she's alone. There might not be enough trust built up, yet.

Just let it roll of and continue the friendly banter and if she comes around, cool.. if not, then just drop it and keep her as a chat buddy. No harm, no crime and it'll show that you're not desperate for her... just a man of action.

 

[pete101]

That sorta changes things, doesn't it? You kinda left this little tidbit out of your first post.

I'd say she's quite liable to flake, cuz meeting a random internet chat buddy in person can be scary for a girl, if she's alone. There might not be enough trust built up, yet.

Just let it roll of and continue the friendly banter and if she comes around, cool.. if not, then just drop it and keep her as a chat buddy. No harm, no crime and it'll show that you're not desperate for her... just a man of action.

i just didn't like how she wouldn't give me a definite time later in the week where there would be no excuses.. but then she would refer back saying 'oh no tuesday should be fine..' and me insisting on later in the week didn't help matters.

it almost feels like it isn't going to be along the lines of how i want to meet her.. like it's a first meet rather than a first date so it's like because im going to be there anyway we might as well meet up. if she says she cant make it for whatever reason when should i recontact and arrange another time?

i was thinking that if i leave it with the 'well i guess you owe me another time to make up for it so state me your offer '

but the thing is that might work if she's interested and i've already met her.. but if im some random internet dude she'll be less inclined to meet up.. so do i have to go about it a different way?

p.s. i dont like how she told me she didn't save my number on her phone so i told her jokingly i was offended and that i was going to delete hers.. she countered with 'you can delete mine..' i dont know if she was joking but that doesn't sound like a response you want to hear...

 

[asles]

Hi guys,

You just don't have enought attract.When a girl flake you,it's an attract problem.

C&f don't create attraction it's just create some tension.And tension just decrease every time you're not with that girl.It's your value that give you attract power.

So,instead of making her laught,and be very c&f.Just find her key words and use them.You'll see it's a very powerful thing.You're not only attractive to a girl (when you use her key worlds ),you're just the only one in her eyes.

RR

 

[pete101]

thanks that doesn't help me if i haven't met her yet

i just like to know what response i should give if she cancels on me.. like i should try to rearrange a time.

or i could send something funny about her being to busy to go out with a stud like me..

is it bad to say something like 'yeah hope you haven't had any more bad experiences since last week, guarantee you're time will more pleasurable with a stud like me '?

does the 'guarantee' part seem as if im trying to gain validation and approval?

i feel like she's trying to flake cos i was pressurising her to just give me a definite time later in the week but she kept coming back with that 'tuesday should be fine but i cant let you know till tomorrow'

to me it doesn't make any sense she says even if her friends come over they should be gone by the next day when we're suppose to meet so i dont see the problem.

is this her just trying to create 2 opportunities to flake i.e. says yes but then cancels last minute?

i should have called her out and said 'well even if your friends are coming you can still see me on tuesday so you can yes now rather than needing to wait till tomorrow to confirm cos if they do come and have not left yet on tuesday you can still meet me for half an hour'

i hate getting into these sorts of convos where we're negotiating times..

it seems all my hard work prior to arranging times goes to waste and i just come across clingy and needy trying to negotiate different times and too available. just reflects badly.