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Field Report: My Second Night Out With Matt ala Casanova

Drex

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This is my second report in what will be a series of reports about Matt and I going out together. We met through this very web page. He's the master DJ and I'm the AFC transitioning into a DJ with his help. You can read the first field report here

Now tonight was sort of a spur of the moment get together and it just happened to be on a tuesday night like the first time we went out. We've come to the conclusion that not a whole lot of chics go out on tuesday nights in our area which makes this field report rather short. This report does, however, cover a few basic concepts that everyone trying to be a DJ should know.

So we meet up at the same billiards that we met up at the first time we went out. Girl-to-guy ratio is rediculous, and by rediculous I mean really bad. Like always, before getting a drink or taking a seat, we walk a lap around the entire building like we OWNED the place, scoping out the prospects (or lack there of). This place is a real meat market but we are going to stick around for a bit, grab a drink, and see what happens.

We go over some more basic DJ Bible material about conversation and cold approaches because this is, of course, the first hump I need to get over in my quest to become a DJ. I've yet to make a cold approach in my 22 years of existance!

There was really only 1 lesson to be learned at this billiards tonight and that happend when the music started sucking. So Matt goes over to the juke-box and I follow shortly after. The juke box happens to be next to a table with 3 girls in a deep discussion. So Matt and I are flippin through the albums and one of the girls makes eye contact with Matt. Matt instantly says Hi after the EC and she returns with a hello. So Matt says "I'd have a seat with you girls but it doesnt look like there's any room" and she follows up with "Oh well". Matt and I roll our eyes at each other and get back to our table.

So Matt tells me these girls were "guy bashing"; one of them probably just broke up with her BF, etc. What ever the case was, these girls just did not want to be approached tonight, or at least during this deep conversation. I took this "oh well" as being shot down but when I mentioned this to Matt he says "no no, that was not being shot down because I never tried in the first place". He was just feeling out the situation, knowing they were guy bashing and in a deep discussion, he was testing the water to see if the girls were worth talking to, which they were not. These girls were seriously the only chics at the place that were not with guys, and they werent even HBs to begin with.

So lesson learned here, sometimes girls just do not want to talk to guys. You cannot take it personal and think you did something wrong because they were not going to be receptive no matter who approached them.

Ok moving on, we go to Margaritas next (a restaurant/bar). We do our lap around the bar and the first table we pass has 2 HBs sitting by themselves talking but no other real prospects in the place. So we take a seat and Matt tells me that he would have talked to these girls by now but that he wanted me to do it. So I'm waiting for my beer from the waitress and Matt's trying to build me up to go over and talk to them. He tells me time is ticking and soon enough another guy or group of guys will move in on them. So what do I do? I sit there and over-analyze the situation and let the fear build up inside. I was very intimidated with the thought of approaching TWO HBs by myself at once. Not 5 minutes goes past and what happens? 2 new guys enter the bar, make EC with the girls and introduce themselves, shake hands and bam, now these 2 guys are sitting with the 2 HBs JUST like Matt had predicted. That could have been Matt and I sitting with them had I not hessitated. Lesson #2 for the night: You Hessitate, You LOSE!

We wait literally 15-20 minutes for the waitress to get our 2 beers, and the bar isnt even busy. We watch her stock glasses and plates and deliver other orders while our 2 beers sit at the bar. Ok I'm gonna say something to her when she finally comes over and I do. She finally comes over so I take a quick glance at my watch then smile at her "so these 2 are on you right?" She kinda gives me a "woops my fault" face and makes a little grunt and walks away. Matt and I laugh. So she comes back not 2 minutes later and says "so should I put in another order for your drinks so that I'll have them here by the time those 2 are done?" with a WICKED ****y grin on her face like she's not gonna take my sh*t! "We're all set thanks for your concern!" and she's on her way. She pays us frequent visits to check up on us now, cool, even though we're not drinking anymore because there's no reason to stay here.

So before we pay the bill Matt strikes up a convo with the waitress for the hell of it, to show me once again how easy it is. So the next time she comes over he inquires about her job, where she goes to college etc. and makes a connection with her (he went to highschool with her brother). Then he pauses for a second, looks in her eyes and says "You know, you have really crazy eyes" (she sorta did!) and she says "Do I exude bytchiness or what?" So Matt shuts his mouth and gives her the eye-brow raise and shoulder shrug and says something like "you said it, not me....all you're missing now is a pierced tongue." She totally bought everything Matt said and melted away and got all giggly and sh*t, it was hilarious. So while she is giving Matt change for a 20 and he's counting out his money to pay her she just stands there and starts giggling for no apparent reason. Matt charmed the hell out of her I guess. She walked past us like 5 times before we got up and left, smiling at Matt each time, you could tell she was just waiting for him to ask for the digits!

So that concluded our night, I blew our only opportunity to approach women but at least I learned a couple valuable lessons: #1 Sometimes girls just do not want to be approached no matter who you are and #2 Hessitate and lose your chance.

We're going out again Thursday night. I should definately have a better field report then because it's not gonna be tuesday and because we are going to a popular bar near a large campus.
 

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why so scared of approaching woman?

just imagine they are friends that are guys

thinking is what is holding you back the most

why dont you go to a crowded bar where you have to talk to strangers?

you seem real aware of the situation around you which is a very good thing

i think Matt needs to help you make an ass of yourself so that you will get over your fear

lookin forward to the next one
 

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Dammit, i want to hang out with Matt. I wish i had some cool DJs to hang with.
I hung out with a totally naturally DJ this summer, and i asked him about 20 questions. This dude is amazing with women. I will never forget the things he said. I watched him in action, and it was unbelievable.
 

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Originally posted by drixsa
why so scared of approaching woman?
Comes from insecurities that stem from middle/high school. I was always real skinny and girls would always tell me that I had a real cute face but that I was just too damn skinny! I got this over and over to the point that up to this day I always feel in the back of my mind that I am being judge by women even when I know I'm not! I'm not even skinny anymore, I've been a weight-lifting junky for a while now and I've packed on a decent amount of muscle. I've got an athletic physique now but I still have that insecurity and confidence issue, it's a killer!


thinking is what is holding you back the most
Sadly I know this. But at least I know what all my problems are and I'm not ashamed to admit them, that's a good first step :D I'd have been much more confident with approaching had it been a solo HB instead of 2 HBs.

why dont you go to a crowded bar where you have to talk to strangers?
We did, they were both sausage factories. :(

you seem real aware of the situation around you which is a very good thing
Yep, always have been. Plus Matt has shown me how to analyze women and groups of women; to be constantly aware of their situation from afar, so that you can act accordingly.

i think Matt needs to help you make an ass of yourself so that you will get over your fear
Matt really wants me to get laid so I can get a taste of that p*ssy, he's even offerred to hook me up with one of his women. But I would feel kind of weird not earning it myself. We both agree that once I realize what I am missing out on that fear will be out the window.

lookin forward to the next one
Me too, check back late Thursday night for a better report!
 

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A great man once said,

"Hesitation leads to masturbation."

Conquer your fears before they conquer you.

I think the best way to do this would be to try to get rejected. Fvck it.
 

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Hmm...I'm sure these field reports, like many others, fail to capture the nuances of behavior that really make/break a DJ...the kinds of things that you can only see if you're there.
 

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Originally posted by squirrels
Hmm...I'm sure these field reports, like many others, fail to capture the nuances of behavior that really make/break a DJ...the kinds of things that you can only see if you're there.
Actually Drex writes these reports quite well. They are pretty accurate with the transitions that occur when we are out. Think of this as a personal journal of growth, so far so good.

He know's what he needs to to do. He has an outlet of people to respond to and get advice as well as watching and learning from me.

M.A.C.
 

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Originally posted by Matt ala Casanova
Actually Drex writes these reports quite well. They are pretty accurate with the transitions that occur when we are out. Think of this as a personal journal of growth, so far so good.

He know's what he needs to to do. He has an outlet of people to respond to and get advice as well as watching and learning from me.

M.A.C.
My intent wasn't to criticize anyone's FR skills. :)

I'm just saying that there's no way to capture all the nonverbal activity going on...even just things like tone of voice can make a difference.
 

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Originally posted by squirrels
My intent wasn't to criticize anyone's FR skills. :)

I'm just saying that there's no way to capture all the nonverbal activity going on...even just things like tone of voice can make a difference.
Gotcha!

Yeah I wish we had a way to capture the moments with live coverage, but that would probally be a bit odd considering.

I'm going to break Drex of his AFC ways if it kills me. He has alot of potential.

M.A.C.
 

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Originally posted by squirrels
I'm just saying that there's no way to capture all the nonverbal activity going on...even just things like tone of voice can make a difference.
Hmmm, maybe next time we're chatting some women up I can have my cell phone record everything ;)
 

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Originally posted by Matt ala Casanova
Gotcha!

Yeah I wish we had a way to capture the moments with live coverage, but that would probally be a bit odd considering.

I'm going to break Drex of his AFC ways if it kills me. He has alot of potential.

M.A.C.
Hey Drex, no pressure, right ;)
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Hey Drex, no pressure, right ;)
No kidding! At least Matt is patient with me :D
 

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Matt is doing a good job in having you tag a long, but at a point you have to have enough balls just to go for it, see your problem remains that you are terrified to speak to women... Why? because you have a lack of self confidense.

Don't dwell on that, just know that YOU ARE THE MAN!, simple, know what you have to offer a woman, start knowing thinking and feeling you are the man...

Take them off the pedestal and realise they are only emotional scared little women hiding behind a brutal exterior.

GO FOR IT!, make a move yourself. Don't rely on Matt.
 

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Originally posted by chlywly
Matt is doing a good job in having you tag a long, but at a point you have to have enough balls just to go for it, see your problem remains that you are terrified to speak to women... Why? because you have a lack of self confidense.

Don't dwell on that, just know that YOU ARE THE MAN!, simple, know what you have to offer a woman, start knowing thinking and feeling you are the man...

Take them off the pedestal and realise they are only emotional scared little women hiding behind a brutal exterior.

GO FOR IT!, make a move yourself. Don't rely on Matt.
Matt has basically said all of this to me as well. But it really does help the confidence level having him with me, as opposed to going out alone! It takes time to recover from being such a hardcore AFC!
 

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Originally posted by chlywly
see your problem remains that you are terrified to speak to women... Why? because you have a lack of self confidense.

Thank you chlywly for your insightful statement of the obvious ;) j/k
 

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Originally posted by becker
Thank you chlywly for your insightful statement of the obvious ;) j/k
I didnt want to be the one to say it :D
 

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Originally posted by Drex
So Matt tells me these girls were "guy bashing"; one of them probably just broke up with her BF, etc. What ever the case was, these girls just did not want to be approached tonight, or at least during this deep conversation. I took this "oh well" as being shot down but when I mentioned this to Matt he says "no no, that was not being shot down because I never tried in the first place".
Matt, your definitely MONEY for knowing about this. I though I was the only one who could get a "feel" for a particular or single group a girls who aren't very approachable and not worth the energy. its almost like a 6th sense, you can just "feel" when a certain person is gonna be unnapproachable or even hostile.

This is kind of a more advanced DJ technique, but i would say for all you aspiring DJ's out there to try and learn it.
 

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Re: Re: Field Report: My Second Night Out With Matt ala Casanova

Originally posted by myfriendblu
Matt, your definitely MONEY for knowing about this. I though I was the only one who could get a "feel" for a particular or single group a girls who aren't very approachable and not worth the energy. its almost like a 6th sense, you can just "feel" when a certain person is gonna be unnapproachable or even hostile.

This is kind of a more advanced DJ technique, but i would say for all you aspiring DJ's out there to try and learn it.
Exactly blu! These girls were nothing more than a possiblel social proof type. I mean I will most likely see them again and if I came across as a d!ck then they would forever shun me. However I left on a good note and you never about the future...chicks are weird, the next time they may have a hot single friend!

You wage your battles, you just have to be smart about what situation you get yourself in!

M.A.C.
 

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Props to Drex for taking action to become a DJ and writing these FRs and to MAC for helping him along the way. Keep it up guys.
 
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