Field Report - Last Relationships

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I originally posted this in the Discussion Forum but I wanted to put it over here as well due to no replies lol.

I wanted to get some of you guys' opinions on my situation. I wanted to start this journal, my goals as far as women are concerned include:

1.) Getting a solid LTR

2.) Having a good number of solid pieces on the side

Over the last year, I have been in 4 relationships. While in those relationships I also continued seeing women on the side but these were mostly jump-offs from places like bars, clubs, etc.

For the purpose of time, I want to sum up two of those four relationships and get your opinions on them:


1.) Girl Number One
Duration of relationship: 3 months

So we go out after we first met like about the next day, ended up just basically chilling for a minute and I got her to go back to a hotel with me. She was a virgin at the time. We ended up having sex in the hotel and going out soon afterwards.

I had been very tied down with my work and school at the time, so I kept putting off our dates and time being together. But the times we would see each other, we always had sex.

The relationship ended when she basically said that she got tired of me doing a couple of things that ticked her off:

> cancelling dates or not showing up to take her out (which I understand)

> she suspected I was gay (basically one night I had her toss my salad, I didnt think much of it and she didn't say anything while she was doing it)

> she swore UP AND DOWN I was ****ing every girl in the state. I was in fact cheating on her but she didn't know any of those chicks they were in totally different towns

> she didn't like how I would cuss her out sometimes. Sometimes I would go off on her and just take a bad day at work out on her and just go off

But she ends our relationship and starts dating a guy that's way beneath me in education, income, social level. She said he's more attentive to her and he's not a jerk like I was. I'm just still confused over this because I didn't see myself as being a jerk.

She's not even living a good life and she's off track on accomplishing her goals right now. She dropped out of college and everytime I text her or call her, I can tell that she's still upset with me because when I mention another girl I'm going out with she gets ticked off, but then we will be having a normal convo and about 2 minutes later she goes into how I treated her so bad in teh relationship and how I'm a bad person, etc.

I just try to understand somethings and I was always wondering why this chick acted like this?




2.) Girl Number Two
Duration - Still going on but I want to dump her

So when I meet her, it takes a couple of weeks before we actually go out. We texted alot and she always talked about how busy she was which I understand, we also had a date planned but I stood her up because I couldn't make it.

So when we meet up, we end up spending the night together (no sex but all the rest of the stuff) and she's also a virgin. I would say after we spent the night together, the next day we became official. Fast forward about 3 weeks, she ends up giving it to me even though originally she said she wanted to wait until marriage.

But now here's my question. It seems like every since she gave it up to me, it's become hard to spend time with her. When I text or call she calls or texts back, she always says "she loves me," but she uses alot of excuses to not spend time with me though. I'm not sure if she's scared of being with me because we more than likely will bone again, or what it is. We do spend time together but not as much no more, I also do things to help her out like give her gas money, etc. (I've been doing that since we started dating) and lately, I notice that she will ALWAYS make excuses up to not spend alot of time together or something, but when she needs something like gas or money, etc., for some reason the TIME appears out of nowhere. She has time for me to bring her money, etc., but she seems to have reduced down our quality time.

I really like this girl. She's very hot, very traditional, and I think she's wifey material. She wants me to marry her. But I go off on her because of what I described and she always plays the victim of (why are you being a jerk? why are you cussing at me?) instead of addressing the issue at hand which is WHY I'm going off.

Any suggestions on this? I'm not sure if you guys have experienced this before or might see warning signs or something, thanks.
 

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Well I don't recommend you ever "cuss" at women. It's unprofessional, and if you're a PUA you should always strive for professionalism. I mean that quite literally, even though it sounds kind of funny. Keep a level head and only do those things which advance your seduction game.

Umm... other than that I don't really know what you're asking. My advice to you would be date more women. Are you getting oneitis for girl #2 or what? Wife material? Probably not.
 

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I'm getting a little emotional over her yes :). What do you other guys think?
 

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Girl #1 lost interest because you lost your cool and cussed her out. Never show that side if at all possible.

Girl #2 sounds like she's losing interest and using you for money at the same time. Actions speak louder than words.

Not sure you want to start an LTR with a virgin.
 

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You were a **** to the first girl, thats why she left.

If girl 2 really was marriage material and liked you that much she wouldn't "just show up" for gas money. She'd be there all the time.

My advice to you is date lots more women! You need to experience some more crazy before you can really appreciate a good one. And when you gain that experience you won't be asking questions like you have.
 

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Yeah, I kind of figured that with girl number two. I noticed that I short of really tamed myself down for her throughout the relationship and I noticed that she started to stop doing alot of the things we used to do. She always brought up excuses to why she wasn't doing it which are somewhat true, but you know how you just have that feeling that you are being brushed off?

I have not contacted her in three days and more than likely will not contact her again. I'm kinda of stupid in this regard because I totally STOPPED spinning plates for this girl, which I think led me to maybe giving off some AFC behavior. I'm this type of guy that WANTS women to damn near chase me and I want to be in control of most of the shyt, with this girl she was a little "off" compared to other chicks because she didn't fall head over heels to letting me control her, which in a way I guess peaked my interest (plus the chick was hot as fvck).

Whether I get back with her or not is kinda of not my concern, I really don't even like her much anymore because I tamed myself down hoping that I could TRUST her on a more soulmate level, obviously I couldn't.

If I were to get back with her I would only do what I did in the beginning and use her for sexual things. I won't do the "boyfriend" shyt anymore.

Also I forgot to add I also have went off on girl number two a couple of times. Lol, I mean when I say go off I always try to put them down. Like I'll take all of the personal shyt they've told me and just start roasting them. I mean, sometimes I'm just stressed from school and work and when they get on my nerves about something, I just start going off lol. I know I need to work on that.

If I were to give an objective assessment of this chick (girl number two), I would say she's still "attracted" to me, but her interest IS decreasing but not decreasing enough to tell me to get lost (plus she knows better then to talk to me like that anyway). I'm not really sure why her interest is decreasing, one minute she tells me I act too much like a jerk and the next minute she says she's scared I'm going to get her pregnant at an early age and she's not ready for all that (which is a totally lie, she wants me to post her a.ss up but I'm not. When I took her virginity she wanted me to go in raw but I said fvck no).

Either way, I've already started going out and cheating on her over a month ago. Hell it's her lost, I'm a good guy and I tamed myself down for her a.ss, now she wants to act stupid? I guess I'll be a player for life.
 

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JT7890 said:
1.) Girl Number One
Duration of relationship: 3 months

So we go out after we first met like about the next day, ended up just basically chilling for a minute and I got her to go back to a hotel with me. She was a virgin at the time. We ended up having sex in the hotel and going out soon afterwards.

I had been very tied down with my work and school at the time, so I kept putting off our dates and time being together. But the times we would see each other, we always had sex.



> cancelling dates or not showing up to take her out (which I understand)


> I was in fact cheating on her

> she didn't like how I would cuss her out sometimes. Sometimes I would go off on her and just take a bad day at work out on her and just go off



I just try to understand somethings and I was always wondering why this chick acted like this?
You seriously have to ask? No one can be that naive or unaware of how they are treating people.....can they??? :rolleyes:

You obviously didn't care about the girl, because you treated her like sh1t. Either that or your idea of treating someone well is to treat them like well....sh1t.

And I'll be honest, judging from what you also said about the second girl, dating you sounds like a real ordeal, and not a very fun experience. I see some potential in you, but you have really got to get a better attitude imo.
 

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cordoncordon said:
You seriously have to ask? No one can be that naive or unaware of how they are treating people.....can they??? :rolleyes:

Yeah I have to wonder about someone so new to the boards with such outrageous stories.

If you're aware enough of these events to write them in a post, then you're aware enough of them to not have to ask about what's wrong with you.

I'm not saying he's a troll. I'm just saying this is rather troll-ish.
 

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You seriously have to ask? No one can be that naive or unaware of how they are treating people.....can they???

You obviously didn't care about the girl, because you treated her like sh1t. Either that or your idea of treating someone well is to treat them like well....sh1t.

And I'll be honest, judging from what you also said about the second girl, dating you sounds like a real ordeal, and not a very fun experience. I see some potential in you, but you have really got to get a better attitude imo.

Iceberg

Yeah I have to wonder about someone so new to the boards with such outrageous stories.

If you're aware enough of these events to write them in a post, then you're aware enough of them to not have to ask about what's wrong with you.

I'm not saying he's a troll. I'm just saying this is rather troll-ish.
I don't see how this is troll-ish. Yes, I am aware of some of the things I did wrong, but I wanted to post my experiences on the board to get feedback, maybe somebody sees something else that I was doing wrong or something about the second girl that I don't see.

I for the most part know that I was a total jerk to the first girl, even when I run into her today or just text her out of the blue she's STILL pissed off at me lol. To be honest, I liked her but I just thought that she wasn't that attractive enough for me. So I kinda just kept her around without dumping her, there were other qualities that I really liked about her. I'm still confused on the second girl though, I'm not sure what her issue is still.
 

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Where are you finding these virgins? lol, how old are these girls?
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Both were 20. The first girl was a freshmen in college and the second one listed was finishing school to do hair.
 

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Guys I just want to update this thread. So the girl number two I just want to see what the hell happened here. So again as a recap, she's 19 and was a virgin, so I meet her and she's all traditional and wholesome like and talks about how she wants to wait until marriage and have sex, etc. Nice girl.

So we kick it off, sleep together on the first night but just kissing, etc. Fast Forward about 45 days later, she gives it up to me. And I'm STILL wondering if she really was a virgin because every girl I've fvcked that was a virgin bled after we fvcked. This girl didn't bleed at all, she said some shyt about how girls that are athletes don't bleed or something, I don't know. She damn well didn't svck dyck like no damn virgin.

RIGHT after that time period, it's like she starts acting stupid. The texts stop coming from her first, I have to text her and REMIND her that I expect my girl to text me good morning, good night, etc. She keeps saying, "Okay I'll try, I'm doing the best I can."

So she will start doing it for a couple of days then stop. But low and behold, let her need gas money or need money for something, she BLOWS up my phone like nothing else. How in the hell can you BLOW up my phone when YOU need something but can't when I need something?

That's not all. She can't tell me happy Thanksgiving, can't call me and tell me Merry Christmas, can't call me and tell me happy new years. And DID NOT spend ANY time with me on ANY of those days. For the week leading up the new years eve, she was SICK all week, wanted me to bring her some MONEY because she couldn't work. I didn't bring her shyt. Claim she was so SICK, BUT, went out with her friends on New Years Eve and let other dudes dance up on her.

Now if you look at this the first question is, why am I with her? I have no idea but I'm just pissed off. To be perfectly honest, I've been spinning plates the entire time with this chick, but I liked her though. I mean, idk, it just seemed like if she was THERE more and cared more, the relationship would be awesome. So I wanted to try and wait it out to see if she would come back around like she was before.

I have no idea wtf happened here. But this just really pisses me off. I do not like doing this player shyt, I'm 27 years old for the life of me, I just want a serious relationship. But everytime I find a girl I like, this is the shyt I have to deal with where they just refuse to act like my girlfriend!

By the rate I'm going, if I don't figure out wtf is going on here, I'm going to be 65 STILL spinning damn plates.
 

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JT7890 said:
I have no idea wtf happened here.
You let her disrespect you from the get go by allowing her to use you for money. You can't expect much from her if you don't even respect yourself.

You can't force her (or any girl) to act like a better gf. You can't TELL them how to act either. If you want them to act a certain way then SHOW them through YOUR actions. When they mess up or do something you don't like pull your attention towards them away. Let them know (thru actions) that you won't put up with any crap. DEMAND respect by giving attention when it is deserved. The moment you put up with sh!t it's already over.
 

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Slickster,

But I do that (not putting up with bullshyt) I've went off on this girl many times. I have to catch myself because sometimes I feel like shaking the shyt out of her. She just always act with this victim mentality, like everytime I tell her to do something or everytime I stop calling her, etc., it's never because of shyt she did, it's always because I'm being a jerk to her or picking on her etc. Everytime it's always her whining about how I'm a jerk, self-centered, all types of shyt, when I admit I'm a little ****y but it's not that serious.

She does have some forms of low self esteem a little bit, but it just pisses me off.

I won't lie, I do like her. I think she's hot, I think she's traditional, and if she just does what I tell her to do and want her to do, we will be fine. I don't think I'm being unreasonable by demanding you text me good morning, text me good night, text me throughout the day and ask me how I'm doing. When I want to go out on a romantic night I want to go out, period, not go out when you "feel like it".

For some reason, this chick started doing what I told her, dropped off of it, then when I would yell at her a.ss, she will start doing it again and drop off again. If she would just stay consistent I'll be fine. Maybe it's because she's 19? Idk.

I'm not sure if she's a gold digger, she's just one of those people that are more lazy, laid back, and want YOU to do everything and she contribute very little or only contribute when she absolutely FEELS like it. I said fvck that, she's going to do what I tell her to do.
You ought to see her CAR and her ROOM. Junky as HELL. I say why don't the fvck you clean your car out and she just nods her head. Smh.

But I'm just done yelling at this chick. I've cussed her out so much, talked bad about her at times she was almost in tears and I feel bad afterwards because, I'm only asking her to do little small simple things and she can't follow directions.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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JT7890 said:
But I'm just done yelling at this chick. I've cussed her out so much, talked bad about her at times she was almost in tears and I feel bad afterwards because, I'm only asking her to do little small simple things and she can't follow directions.

I think you should read this about 10 times and internalize it:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=176859
 

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JT7890 said:
Slickster,

But I do that (not putting up with bullshyt) I've went off on this girl many times. I have to catch myself because sometimes I feel like shaking the shyt out of her. I don't think I'm being unreasonable by demanding you text me good morning, text me good night, text me throughout the day and ask me how I'm doing.


But I'm just done yelling at this chick. I've cussed her out so much, talked bad about her at times she was almost in tears and I feel bad afterwards because, I'm only asking her to do little small simple things and she can't follow directions

But I'm just done yelling at this chick. I've cussed her out so much, talked bad about her at times she was almost in tears and I feel bad afterwards because, I'm only asking her to do little small simple things and she can't follow directions.

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You sound like you are her dad. Or her high school principle. Dating you sounds exhausting, and absolutely no fun whatsoever. To be honest, you sound kind of psycho.
 
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