Field Report: Date

[nicksaiz65]

Yo my brethren, hope you’re well. I had a date last night and wanted to write a FR.

So I Snapped back and forth with her, and she seemed quite receptive for a date. She would always respond back with “okay ” and what not. I suggested that we meet at the local bar for drinks and pool.

What I didn’t realize at first, is that this girl lives like 40 minutes away. So she drove quite a bit to see me. She broke up with her boyfriend recently as well.

We met at around 8:30. This girl is cute, but she’s quite quirky. She has some really extreme political views. I tried to steer the conversation more away from that whenever I could. I feel like that’s not the best thing to talk about on a date. However, that is kind of her thing. I couldn’t resist laughing about Trump a little bit with her. What is cool though is that she likes anime a ton, and I already know that she smokes weed. She’s actually more of a stoner than a drinker.

I made sure to sit beside her, do some kino, call her cute, all that good stuff. However, this girl didn’t make it quite as easy as my last date to show intent. I’m not sure if that’s just me fvcking up, or just the fact that these two girls have different personalities.

I’m starting to think that something that could help me, for both Cold Approach and dates, is just to have a handful of “intentful” lines in my pocket just in case I can’t think of anything to say. That would take a lot of pressure off me.

Another funny thing that happened on the date, is we were showing each other funny videos on our phones. When she shows me her phone, I see that she’s getting Tinder notifications on her phone. So even though she just broke up with her boyfriend, she’s starting to become sexually open to other prospects.

After we drank some beer(I like Dos Equis myself, she drinks Michelob. I made sure to tease her about that.) I planned on playing some pool with her at the bar, but it was actually taking forever. So I said, “Man this is taking ages. How about we go to my place, and shoot pool and have some drinks there?” She agrees to it, and says she’ll meet me at my place. So I’m able to pull her.

So I play a game of pool with her, and she’s surprisingly good. She also vibes out to the playlist that I have going, which is pretty cool. She’s cool peoples to hang out with. My roommate later comes in and we end up playing cut throat. It’s a good time. I feel like I could’ve done a better job showing intent, though I did call her cute and use kino.

I try to persuade her to watch an episode of anime with me, but it hits the point where she has to go home because of that drive. She says something like “Next time I’ll bring my dart board.”

I didn’t end up kissing her at the end of the night, because my gut tells me that it would’ve been a bit contrived. I just ended up hugging her instead. You all can tell me if that’s a mistake or not. But I also feel like I could’ve done a better job showing intent on this date, she wasn’t quite as “on” as the other girl.

The good though, is that I’ve already pulled her to my house at this point. So, the stratagem from here is basically I’ll hit her up at some point for another date, maybe even flirt with her a bit before. With all that “Hey cutie” stuff and what not, since it seemed to work pretty damn well for the last girl that I went on a date with. And I’ll just invite her straight over to play some darts and watch some anime, a little earlier in the day so that I have time to close before she has to go home and what not. I could smoke weed with her, that would probably work well, but I’m worried I’ll get really anxious from it and then that’ll end up ruining my Killer Instinct.

And I’ll keep doing Approaches so I can get new leads, and get another date from that soon hopefully. I want more lol.

So yeah, that’s how that went. Feedback is appreciated!

 

[Willie Naylor]

She broke up with her boyfriend recently as well.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SW15]

Use the @EyeBRollin / Doc Love method and don't contact her for either 5-9 days or she texts you first.

Her living 40 mins away probably isn't good for long term sustainability. I find it difficult enough to see women who live 10-15 minutes away.

I think kissing at the end of the night would have been better. I can identify with the idea of not kissing. I have had dates over time where I didn't kiss because I wasn't sure if she'd pull away. I tend to kiss somewhere in the middle because if she pulls away once, I still have time to complete a kiss. If you try to pull a first kiss as the night is ending and you don't get it, you're in a tough position going forward.

I prefer having a no kiss, no second date invite rule.

Here's a Michelob ad because you mentioned she drinks Michelob.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Use the @EyeBRollin / Doc Love method and don't contact her for either 5-9 days or she texts you first.

Her living 40 mins away probably isn't good for long term sustainability. I find it difficult enough to see women who live 10-15 minutes away.

I think kissing at the end of the night would have been better. I can identify with the idea of not kissing. I have had dates over time where I didn't kiss because I wasn't sure if she'd pull away. I tend to kiss somewhere in the middle because if she pulls away once, I still have time to complete a kiss. If you try to pull a first kiss as the night is ending and you don't get it, you're in a tough position going forward.

I prefer having a no kiss, no second date invite rule.

Here's a Michelob ad because you mentioned she drinks Michelob.

I like that 5-9 day rule that you mentioned. I’ll definitely use that. As you know, I’m a big fan of Roosh’s stuff. However, I don’t agree with only waiting 2 or so days to contact her for another date. So I will use the 5-9 day rule as you said.

I see. That makes sense. On this date, I didn’t kiss her because I felt like I didn’t do the greatest job of establishing intent. I wasn’t sure how strong I wanted to come on, due to her having just broke up with her boyfriend.

But in general, would you say it would be good for me to have a rule/algorithm to always kiss on the first date? I could add that to my “rule book” if needed.

Lol @ the Michelob ad. Never seen that one, when did it come out?

 

[Willie Naylor]

@nicksaiz65 quit looking for rules to follow. Just do you. Whatever feels right in a particular moment....

do that.

 

[2Rocky]

I like that 5-9 day rule that you mentioned. I’ll definitely use that. As you know, I’m a big fan of Roosh’s stuff. However, I don’t agree with only waiting 2 or so days to contact her for another date. So I will use the 5-9 day rule as you said.

Meanwhile one of the Tinder dates is gonna get in her pants and you won't hear from her again.....This is my prediction...

 

[nicksaiz65]

Meanwhile one of the Tinder dates is gonna get in her pants and you won't hear from her again.....This is my prediction...

How long would you recommend waiting before contacting her again?

Or, I guess you could say what actions could I take to ensure that this doesn't happen and I don't get screwed over lol

 

[2Rocky]

You didn't establish yourself as a sexual man to her. She made quite a time investment to just come "hang out". Yet you gave her no kino and created no sexual tension. Did you greet her with a hug at least? If not, then of course a kiss at the end of the night is not going to seem apropos. There is a saying :" Women decide within the first 30 seconds of meeting of a guy whether or not they’re going to sleep with him. "

https://secretinstinct.home.blog/20...in-30-seconds-whether-shell-sleep-with-a-man/

If this is a woman you would sleep with on Date 2 she needs to know it on Date 1. Your attitude and actions convey that. It also will make her tell you to back off if she's not into you and thus save you the trouble of a date 2.

Establish yourself as a physically demonstrative person. That makes women who are attracted to you up their game, and give you stronger signals. It also leaves them with stronger feelings when you part for a while...Among my female friends, I'm ALWAYS greeted with a hug, and I feel them melt into me. It makes it that much easier when it is a woman I want to impress and seduce.

After 15-30 minutes was she initiating physical contact? was she complimenting you?, was she laughing and making eye contact? was she showing off her female attractive points? (boobs, butt, neck, lower back) If not she has lukewarm interest at best. Personally if a woman is not initiating the kiss with me at the end of the date, I call her Low Interest and I'm not calling her again. After you have had women throwing themselves in your lap a few times you can read it from women.

 

[nicksaiz65]

You didn't establish yourself as a sexual man to her. She made quite a time investment to just come "hang out". Yet you gave her no kino and created no sexual tension. Did you greet her with a hug at least? If not, then of course a kiss at the end of the night is not going to seem apropos. There is a saying :" Women decide within the first 30 seconds of meeting of a guy whether or not they’re going to sleep with him. "

https://secretinstinct.home.blog/20...in-30-seconds-whether-shell-sleep-with-a-man/

If this is a woman you would sleep with on Date 2 she needs to know it on Date 1. Your attitude and actions convey that. It also will make her tell you to back off if she's not into you and thus save you the trouble of a date 2.

Establish yourself as a physically demonstrative person. That makes women who are attracted to you up their game, and give you stronger signals. It also leaves them with stronger feelings when you part for a while...Among my female friends, I'm ALWAYS greeted with a hug, and I feel them melt into me. It makes it that much easier when it is a woman I want to impress and seduce.

After 15-30 minutes was she initiating physical contact? was she complimenting you?, was she laughing and making eye contact? was she showing off her female attractive points? (boobs, butt, neck, lower back) If not she has lukewarm interest at best. Personally if a woman is not initiating the kiss with me at the end of the date, I call her Low Interest and I'm not calling her again. After you have had women throwing themselves in your lap a few times you can read it from women.

I agree that I should have done a better job creating a sexual vibe. I definitely kino'ed her though. Though I could have done a better job showing more intent.

She did compliment me, and she laughed and made eye contact. I also did greet her with a hug because I like to establish some kino off the bat.

Thank you for the article. I think there is a lot of truth to that.

I think what I'll do is, try to set up a Date 2, and if she comes through I will lay the intent on HEAVY. If she comes through, then cool. But if not, then cool lol. I'll just do some more approaches and then meet more women.

 

[biggoal]

Use the @EyeBRollin / Doc Love method and don't contact her for either 5-9 days or she texts you first.

Her living 40 mins away probably isn't good for long term sustainability. I find it difficult enough to see women who live 10-15 minutes away.

I think kissing at the end of the night would have been better. I can identify with the idea of not kissing. I have had dates over time where I didn't kiss because I wasn't sure if she'd pull away. I tend to kiss somewhere in the middle because if she pulls away once, I still have time to complete a kiss. If you try to pull a first kiss as the night is ending and you don't get it, you're in a tough position going forward.

I prefer having a no kiss, no second date invite rule.

Here's a Michelob ad because you mentioned she drinks Michelob.

So what is your ideal distance? If using OLD it could be further. I had a date drive 55 miles to meet me. I drove 50 miles to another one. Other OLD dates were 30 miles away and a couple closer only about 15 miles away. If I limited myself to a 25 mile radius around me on OLD there are some days you won't even find anyone online depending on the site.

10-15 minutes away?? So you only want to date women who live within a mile or so?

 

[SW15]

But in general, would you say it would be good for me to have a rule/algorithm to always kiss on the first date? I could add that to my “rule book” if needed.

Lol @ the Michelob ad. Never seen that one, when did it come out?

Always push to kiss on the first date. The Michelob ad I linked came out in 1991. It said so in the video title.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Always push to kiss on the first date. The Michelob ad I linked came out in 1991. It said so in the video title.

You are 100% right, my friend.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Okay, so I have a confession to make. It turned out exactly as you guys predicted. I reached out to try and set up a second date with this girl, and she blew me off with some lame excuse. I failed just like @2Rocky said I would.

I’m really mad and disappointed at myself for screwing this one up. I really wanted to Bang this girl.

This kind of sh*t happens to me a lot, and I think the main takeaway is I MUST SHOW INTENT.

So I’m going to add a few rules to my “algorithm” so that this kind of stuff won’t happen to me anymore. I CANNOT let these platonic hangouts continue to occur, or I am going to continue to fail at life.

Update to Date Algorithms:
1.) You MUST establish intent before the date even starts so that she knows what is going on
2.) You must flirt and use kino (x) amount of times when on the date. You have to show intent (x) amount of times on the date. (X) can be adjusted to feel, obviously.
3.) You MUST make a move at the end of the date, no matter how you feel. A kiss, minimum.

If followed, these rules will prevent me from screwing up like I did.

Also, the mindset of “I’ll just cool it and make a move on the second date” is cancer. Doesn’t work in 2021. I’ve been screwed by this multiple times. Roosh V is 100% correct. You MUST make a move on the first date, and try your best to escalate all the way to sex. Roosh says that if you don’t do that, don’t even bother showing up on the date. He spits facts.

By the way, I like showing intent verbally. That way it is absolutely foolproof. Whenever I try to only show it through the eye contact, there’s a chance I can screw it up.

So if all of those three rules aren’t followed, I can’t even consider it a date anymore. It’s just a “platonic hangout.” Those rules will get me right.

ACTIONABLE STEPS I WILL TAKE TO FIX THIS:
1.) Continue to diet and lose weight so that women will find me more attractive in general
2.) I need more practice on dates in general, and implementing the rules that prevent me from screwing up on the date.
3.) Do more approaches, and get another date. Then come back here to SS, and write a date field report where I successfully implemented these rules.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Okay, so I have a confession to make. It turned out exactly as you guys predicted. I reached out to try and set up a second date with this girl, and she blew me off with some lame excuse. I failed just like @2Rocky said I would.

I’m really mad and disappointed at myself for screwing this one up. I really wanted to Bang this girl.

This kind of sh*t happens to me a lot, and I think the main takeaway is I MUST SHOW INTENT.

So I’m going to add a few rules to my “algorithm” so that this kind of stuff won’t happen to me anymore. I CANNOT let these platonic hangouts continue to occur, or I am going to continue to fail at life.

Update to Date Algorithms:
1.) You MUST establish intent before the date even starts so that she knows what is going on
2.) You must flirt and use kino (x) amount of times when on the date. You have to show intent (x) amount of times on the date. (X) can be adjusted to feel, obviously.
3.) You MUST make a move at the end of the date, no matter how you feel. A kiss, minimum.

If followed, these rules will prevent me from screwing up like I did.

Also, the mindset of “I’ll just cool it and make a move on the second date” is cancer. Doesn’t work in 2021. I’ve been screwed by this multiple times. Roosh V is 100% correct. You MUST make a move on the first date, and try your best to escalate all the way to sex. Roosh says that if you don’t do that, don’t even bother showing up on the date. He spits facts.

By the way, I like showing intent verbally. That way it is absolutely foolproof. Whenever I try to only show it through the eye contact, there’s a chance I can screw it up.

So if all of those three rules aren’t followed, I can’t even consider it a date anymore. It’s just a “platonic hangout.” Those rules will get me right.

ACTIONABLE STEPS I WILL TAKE TO FIX THIS:
1.) Continue to diet and lose weight so that women will find me more attractive in general
2.) I need more practice on dates in general, and implementing the rules that prevent me from screwing up on the date.
3.) Do more approaches, and get another date. Then come back here to SS, and write a date field report where I successfully implemented these rules.

I'd suggest screening better too. I agree 100% about showing sexual interest *before* the date, not only does she know your intent, it also screens out low interest girls.

That being said, women with women who have Trump Derangement Syndrome (keep in mind he's been out of office 10 months), I get the feeling they have issues with dominant, unapologetic, and masculine men. The fact that she kept on insisting on bashing him during the date shows either a fear of men, low interest, or a combo of the two. Assuming that you met her off of OLD (and by the fact you snapped with her indicates you did), they will usually tell you this in their profile bio.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

ACTIONABLE STEPS I WILL TAKE TO FIX THIS:
1.) Continue to diet and lose weight so that women will find me more attractive in general
2.) I need more practice on dates in general, and implementing the rules that prevent me from screwing up on the date.
3.) Do more approaches, and get another date. Then come back here to SS, and write a date field report where I successfully implemented these rules.

This is the answer, no... Rules are gonna stop you from making mistakes, you have to be able to make yourself more respectable so that when things happen, they don't take on a unmanageable consequence, shrug it off, keep moving, your fear is the enemy of everything that you do with women

 

[2Rocky]

Okay, so I have a confession to make. It turned out exactly as you guys predicted. I reached out to try and set up a second date with this girl, and she blew me off with some lame excuse. I failed just like @2Rocky said I would.

I’m really mad and disappointed at myself for screwing this one up. I really wanted to Bang this girl.

This kind of sh*t happens to me a lot, and I think the main takeaway is I MUST SHOW INTENT.

So I’m going to add a few rules to my “algorithm” so that this kind of stuff won’t happen to me anymore. I CANNOT let these platonic hangouts continue to occur, or I am going to continue to fail at life.

Update to Date Algorithms:
1.) You MUST establish intent before the date even starts so that she knows what is going on
2.) You must flirt and use kino (x) amount of times when on the date. You have to show intent (x) amount of times on the date. (X) can be adjusted to feel, obviously.
3.) You MUST make a move at the end of the date, no matter how you feel. A kiss, minimum.

If followed, these rules will prevent me from screwing up like I did.

Also, the mindset of “I’ll just cool it and make a move on the second date” is cancer. Doesn’t work in 2021. I’ve been screwed by this multiple times. Roosh V is 100% correct. You MUST make a move on the first date, and try your best to escalate all the way to sex. Roosh says that if you don’t do that, don’t even bother showing up on the date. He spits facts.

By the way, I like showing intent verbally. That way it is absolutely foolproof. Whenever I try to only show it through the eye contact, there’s a chance I can screw it up.

So if all of those three rules aren’t followed, I can’t even consider it a date anymore. It’s just a “platonic hangout.” Those rules will get me right.

ACTIONABLE STEPS I WILL TAKE TO FIX THIS:
1.) Continue to diet and lose weight so that women will find me more attractive in general
2.) I need more practice on dates in general, and implementing the rules that prevent me from screwing up on the date.
3.) Do more approaches, and get another date. Then come back here to SS, and write a date field report where I successfully implemented these rules.

Nick don't beat yourself up....All you need to do is say "On to the next one...."

you writing all this has a tendency to get you in a negative feedback loop. it's like trying to AIM a baseball throw. You just gotta throw a good'un and remember how it FEELS and then go for the FEEL on the next one......

 

[Willie Naylor]

Update to Date Algorithms:
1.) You MUST establish intent before the date even starts so that she knows what is going on

Absolutely this. Do like these guys. This is so funny. I'm sure @2Rocky will concur.