fat loss

[int3l]

hey, quick question.
while my str has been coming along decently i was wondering

apart from walking b4 breafast to induce fat burning. would walking in the morning AND jogging in the afternoon be best for optimal fat loss while gaining muscle/str?

while i probably wont have the time to go jogging like everyday if it will help the fat burning process i am willing, thought i'd see what you thought first before i did anything first.

btw. even though i have fat covering my stomach and abs area should i work them at least once a week for alot of reps/sets? would that strip away fat in that area faster as well?

btw im not after the full blown 6-pack..more just the general definition with some shape clearly showing it is there.
cross between this
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e74/nascarangel382041/brad20pitt20linduuuuuu.jpg
and
http://www.bradpittnow.com/images/brad_pitt_abs.jpg


thanks again and sorry for the fussy questions. i know..ur all thinking wtf is he thinking? it takes ages to get like that in the first place! i jsut wanted to find out first anyway.

 

[mintxx]

Well, you can't strip fat from a body part by targeting that body part. Weighted crunches with failure/pain at 20 reps, 3 or 4 sets twice a week, combined with a low intensity cardio session of 30 or 40 minutes before a meal (doesn't need to be before breakfast though that helps since it's after the longest fast) 3 or 4 times a week. Even if you're quite built, your abs will take a long time compared to other body parts. Try to incorporate squats and back extensions, and hanging curls from the chin bar as well.

 

[int3l]

ah awesome. btw with all types of benches. do you go to neck or jsut above the chest? cause i've been going to about a 1-3 cm off chest. but i saw a vid with a guy going to neck?

 

[mintxx]

go to your nips. same goes for incline bench (head slightly higher) presses - you want to lower the bar to your nips to work your pecs. any higher and you're 'cheating' by bringing in your shoulder muscles. incline is to work the same muscle group from a different angle see. guy going to neck may have been doing close grip bench for tricips, but could equally have been losing form with high weight or whatever.
incidentally, you'll find that lifting with good form rather than the most weight will rip the **** out of your muscles, which is a Good Thing. [try incline press with an empty bar with proper form and notice the diff.] but i don't have visible abs, so you should read up threads by WBA, throttle etc for tried and tested tips.

 

[mintxx]

lastly, pitt probably does pilates and alternating crunches, back extensions, medicine ball stuff. keep in mind that his job is to look good, so he has people handle his stuff while he prances around in a gym high on no-xplode for hours at a time. out

 

[mrRuckus]

Abs are like any other muscle. I don't know where this "do 800 sets" stuff comes from for them.

Do em heavy and low reps: 2-3 sets for 8-10 or so. Maybe twice a week if you want. Keep adding weight. It won't help the fat situation though, but at least you'll have good abs to show off once you get the fat down through other methods.

 

[cuzza]

Going to neck isolates your chest, but it's meant to be bad for your shoulders.

 

[int3l]

go to your nips. same goes for incline bench (head slightly higher) presses - you want to lower the bar to your nips to work your pecs. any higher and you're 'cheating' by bringing in your shoulder muscles. incline is to work the same muscle group from a different angle see. guy going to neck may have been doing close grip bench for tricips, but could equally have been losing form with high weight or whatever.
incidentally, you'll find that lifting with good form rather than the most weight will rip the **** out of your muscles, which is a Good Thing. [try incline press with an empty bar with proper form and notice the diff.] but i don't have visible abs, so you should read up threads by WBA, throttle etc for tried and tested tips.

i'm assuming by nips you mean the nipples?
btw for incline the bar should also touch the nips? i mean i understand with flat but that's gonna hurt...alot...lol.
go to the nips as well for decline?

and yeah i heard going to the neck was old school...or something like that

 

[mintxx]

heh, OK perhaps that was too many reps for the abs. Main point is, like mrRuckus notes, they are like any other muscle, so weight up when you do crunches/hanging raises and back extensions, such that they burn like fukk when you're at the top of a normal rep range.
Also, you can pop a shoulder and won't be going to failure if you go the neck, unless perhaps you use close grip. Sounds kind of weird actually, but I'm not sure, it might be useful for something and I'm not an expert.

 

[int3l]

meh..i tried going to neck today, wont be doing it any time soon...felt wierd.

as for touching the chest, DAMN is that hard. like i'm 1-2cm off chest usually. 3cm if i'm like almost ruined. is that good enough?

 

[mintxx]

ayyy carumba! just go toward your chest. I meant like in a line up from your nips, no need to touch them. Benching heavy [200+], you do not want to bottom out without a spotter.

By the way, when I said you can't strip fat by targeting a bodypart, I mean that your body burns fat off through metabolising stored energy (fat), and you'll probably have to burn the fat off almost everywhere else before your stomach and love handles/ass go. You just store fat everywhere (no offense lol) Only then will your abs show through, and a few weeks of heavy, low-mid rep crunches will bring them up to some shape.

 

[int3l]

T-T fat i hate thee.

and no wonder i found benches so hard yesterday. im usually without a spotter as well. lol...