facebook pick up started off well got digits, lost her talking about brazilian

pete101

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i have a tendency to play a high risk strategy being too forward with women even ones i have never met, i supplement my approaches with facebook online ones. this brazilian chick was into me it appeared. gave number straight away after seeing my pics, seemed relatively low maintenance in the sense unimpressed by rich stuff even though she goes to nice clubs. i suggested we get together for a drink locally somewhere nice equidistant between us.. the place i suggested she didn't seem keen on, i tried selling it saying it was nice as rich ppl went there as they live around nearby so demand a certain level of decor. she gave me a 'either day is fine but i'll let you know im not familiar with that area. anyway i realised where she lived to get to where i suggested would be an absolute mission unless you drive as no transport links go direct from there so i suggested to switch it elsewhere. she responds back saying the same thing and that she doessn't like public transport and suggested a brazilian restaurant walking distance from hers but no rich ppl just a simple place (i think she got the impression from me that i hang around with people who go nice places etc etc so that was misguided on my part, creates a rift between me and her) (would be an IOI and DTF comment if she wasn't being difficult and it's more about her not having to walk far and not take public transport) then texts me 'im brazilian by the way'. i said i didn't know places there but we should meet for a drink closer to hers or at least what i thought was then i made a joke about that if all goes well i'll come down closer to hers for a 2nd date and that proximity is a huge selling point.. that was received ok, it was the bit after i said about 'i like brazilians both the curves and the wax ;) haha' i thought it was an innocuous joke as it is i've said it before to brazilians i never met and it was just laughed off although it is high risk as it is quite pervy and forward.

she sends me a text badk saying that where i suggested is still a long walk blah blah then that i shouldn't make a joke about brazilian wax to women i've never met before and she's put off greatly, and it's absolutely terrible. (i think she removed me from facebook friends at this point but i didn't check till after my next 2 texts - indicates it's pointless pursuing this) i refrained from apologising, i initially sent 'ok it was just a joke. my bad' no response and followed up 'give me a 2nd chance and let's start over, im pete you are? :) let's compromise and meet in the high street (near hers) on tuesday instead and i'll refrain from making any more brazilian jokes..wax or otherwise, i promise :) haha she responds back with 'im trying to sleep i dont know yet, i went out last night. good day.' at this point i noticed she had me removed from facebook friends so it made me pretty sure she's completely turned off esp if she verbally said it in the previous text. im not going to pursue it at this point as i'm already in a weak position saying give me a 2nd chance. this is prob an example of why texting too much and overcomplicating things kills your chances (it doesn't help she was being difficult and hesistant about not wanting to go anywhere more than walking distance from hers.. control freak and high maintenance also doesn't want to invest much into the date.. low IL sign) i'm not going to follow it up as i know it'll make me look even more afc, and even if she does contact me it'll probably to prove she still has me and to check to see if i walk away but realistically because she's removed me from friends that's a pretty clear indicator she has no interest in seeing me. maybe i should have just agreed to the place she suggested rather than overcomplicating things? i wanted to go somewhere on my terms not hers.
 

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You did well to secure the number but just when you needed a bit of finesse to set the hook, you jerked too hard on the line and snapped it.
This was a perfect chance to set up a date and then go ghost. That would've got her hamster spinning and hopefully built up some good tension.
At least you can admit you overplayed it. Live and learn, OP!
 

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Don't apologise for any text, you said you didn't but you did "my bad", "give me a second chance" WTF. It's as beta as fvck. Your second text absolutely killed it and sounds as needy as hell about starting again and compromising. AVOID DOUBLE TEXTING, especially when she's not rewarding you.

The joke is fine, maybe you didn't build enough rapport for it, or she's just very uptight. You may have slightly overplayed it, but overall I think she's an idiot for reacting badly to an innocuous joke, sounds like early 20s. I would have got her on the phone and asked her out that way, lesser chance of this sh!t happening.
 

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LMFAO said:
Don't apologise for any text, you said you didn't but you did "my bad", "give me a second chance" WTF. It's as beta as fvck. Your second text absolutely killed it and sounds as needy as hell about starting again and compromising. AVOID DOUBLE TEXTING, especially when she's not rewarding you.

The joke is fine, maybe you didn't build enough rapport for it, or she's just very uptight. You may have slightly overplayed it, but overall I think she's an idiot for reacting badly to an innocuous joke, sounds like early 20s. I would have got her on the phone and asked her out that way, lesser chance of this sh!t happening.
ah ok i thought admitting i was wrong was ok but apologizing wasn't.

should i have agreed and amplified..? she's actuallty older 30s probably 33-34 hard to tell but not 20s.

tbh im not good on the phone i talk too fast and sound nervous (have anxiety issues) so texting is my only safe way to secure dates. i should have just agreed to her suggestion even though she was being difficult sometimes you need to be flexible.

however with the joke i was thinking after maybe i should have ignored what she said and just said 'it's just a joke i dont know why you're getting upset..oh i get it you must have a hollywood..it's ok i like thos too ;) haha' which is basically agreeing and amplifying what i said as i know straight after her throwing a strop or turned off you have 1 text to make her laugh..that may not have worked but at least i wouldn't succumb to apologizing.

anyway i know there's no point pursuing this, number deleted. i have to keep things as simple as possible, get number, arrange date, don't squabble too much where to meet, if she counter offers a suggestion and it seems reasonable agree then go ghost till tues. i over complicated things. it's not as if she suggested somwhere expensive i was just tryna avoid going to a restaurant as i thought she might want a free local meal..more opportunity for her to order food if it's a restaurant than a bar, she's brazilian she expects men to pay. im not gona argue over that but i don't want to get into a restaurant thing on a first date.
 

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That line could have worked in person but saying it over text or on the phone is high risk. There's a 50/50 she may or may not like it. That's why you shoot straight when talking over text or on the phone. Refrain from high risk flirts unless you know her well or are willing to take the risk.
 

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