Eye Contact in PU Venues

SexPDX

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This is a basic overview of my current beliefs and behaviors about eye contact in what I call "PU venues".

There are slight differences between PU venues (clubs, parties or any place where
people will come specifically to PU and/or expect it to happen or be attempted) and non-PU venues (streets, malls, cafes and other such places where PU does occur but is not normally anticipated as part of the fundamental nature of the venue.

In PU venues girls peacock for the attention of all men. They compete with each other for the sheer number of men they are able to enchant. For these women most men in the club have value only as sources of fulfillment though their admiration, however each men has a chance (some more than others based on a
number of factors) to demonstrate value beyond that of an admirer. However once you are set up in her mind as one who admires her from afar, there is little hope of having any value to her beyond that. For these reasons, I avoid eye contact as much as possible until I know I am prepared to make an approach VERY shortly after eye contact occurs. This is in
keeping with Mystery's 3s rule that is meant to minimize hesitation and allowing oneself to create fear-based excuses to talk oneself out of approaching but also meant to allow your target very little time to form "pre-approach" opinions about you.

If you make eye contact with a woman in a club and you don't approach right away she sees that you made no effort to go beyond the position of an admirer. She thinks of you as being scared and dubs you one of her admirers. If you THEN approach, having set the admirer frame, you do prove that you are not as scared as she may have thought but you still have the obstacle of being in the loser
category to begin with. You may be the ALPHA loser, but a loser nonetheless. In this kind of approach you are basically saying something like...

"Good evening my lady. I am General Otto Von Smallcock, the fearless commander of your majesty's devout royal army of small penis equipped choads. I am here to report to you that we are doing well in our valliant effort to provide you with continual support in your war against your lack of emotional security which causes you to seek a sense of fulfillment in how you are percieved by others."

She will then dismiss you to continue to perform your duties, General Smallcock.

So, don't chase eye contact at all while scoping for targets unless you are commited to approaching at that time (or pretty damn soon afterwards) if and when it occurs.

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- The performer known as Nick
 

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Yes I do agree with this to some degree. Any chump can stare. But I do like looking them directly in the eyes.

You know I posted earlier that ignoring a hot girl can set you apart. This kind of falls into that classification.

Don't stare until you are ready to approach, good idea!
 

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This is what I've been saying!

If you let the window of opportunity pass you by your stock drops tenfold.

The more eye contact, or her moving closer to you, or whatever, the lower your chances of making the right impression.

Good post.
 

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Nice post, Nick. Pushing it beyond the normal boundaries of posts about eye eonctact (i.e. "Be sure to make eye contact!").

I've never actually thought of it that way (as in once you've made solid eye contact, you should approach or risk being put in the admirer category).

In previous occassions, I've actually tried to get a lot of eye contact before an approach (e.g. playing the eye contact game, not breaking the stare until she does) but often the babes in the club don't have the patience and they run off with their alpha boyfriends after 3 seconds.

I guess I should've already learnt this lesson from my own experiences: get the eye contact and go.

De La Soul
 

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Good post,

Also, many would be very surprised how observant women are at clubs and places where they know whether someone has tried to make eye contact with every last chick in the place rather than the select few.

DJP
 

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Originally posted by SexPDX:
"Good evening my lady. I am General Otto Von Smallcock, the fearless commander of your majesty's devout royal army of small penis equipped choads. I am here to report to you that we are doing well in our valliant effort to provide you with continual support in your war against your lack of emotional security which causes you to seek a sense of fulfillment in how you are perceived by others."

She will then dismiss you to continue to perform your duties, General Smallcock.

Fvcking hilarious!
 

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One thing though about eye contact.

I always thought if I made eye contact to a HB, it was like saying, yeah I'm your equal, you aren't better than me.

Think of it the opposite way, the slob who puts his head down and can't look a hot girl in the eye when he walks by.

So I think eye contact can have several meanings. But the true message here is to act fast. It aint' like most girls are gonna walk up to you!
 
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