examples of email macking (long)

[BigBill]

Hey guys.

Someone asked about email seduction the other day. Just thought I’d share some of my recent experiences on a free online dating service.

Below are some actual correspondences from the last couple of weeks. Not great and I’ll accept any advice on improvements. But for the totally clueless, there will be some things of interest.

Enjoy.

#1 A Quick Success…

Sent by me to ‘Pook494’:

Your profile looks interesting. Not sure what you are looking for from the service or why you joined. Looks to me like quite a few women on this service are here to meet that tall handsome, flamenco-dancing, sports car driving, lawyer or doctor who loves camping, hiking, rock climbing, motorcycling, water-skiing, sky diving, bunji jumping, rare coin collecting, and building houses for homeless people.

I guess many of these women feel that such a man is probably tired of shallow relationships with the supermodels and actresses that bother him constantly and so he’s here looking to meet a girl on the internet.

But you aren’t that shallow right? No, not you. You’re not stuck in fantasyland and neither am I.

If that made you smile send me a message. I may not have a yacht or make 6 figures but I’m damned entertaining, pretty interesting, and quite the handsome devil too when I get all decked out.

If it didn’t make you smile: sorry, You can go back to fantasyland now!

Ciao
Bill

Sent to me by pook494:

Hi Bill yes, that made me smile, and was quite well expressed. Nice photo,too- very studly. maybe we can meet sometime for lunch or whatever and just talk, that would be nice. The only reason i dont put my photo on my profile is because i am sensitive about protecting my privacy with regards to the internet. I am not expecting to find for mr. night in shining armour, i am old enough to know there really is not such a guy. i will settle for an employed, english-speaking, devoted teddy bear! I am also taking a few courses at UN Continuing Ed now for programming stuff. I read your profile and we do have some similar interests/attitudes. I usually go for shorter guys, since i am kind of short, but that is really no big deal. Anyway let me know if you feel like meeting .

Sent by me to pook494:

Meeting sounds good.
Send me your number and I’ll give you a call.
Glad you liked the letter.
Bill

#2) B1tchy broad…

Sent by me to Amarosa105:

Your profile looks interesting. Not sure what you are looking for from the service or why you joined. Looks to me like quite a few women on this service are here to meet that tall handsome, flamenco-dancing, sports car driving, lawyer or doctor who loves camping, hiking, rock climbing, motorcycling, water-skiing, sky diving, bunji jumping, rare coin collecting, and building houses for homeless people.

I guess many of these women feel that such a man is probably tired of shallow relationships with the supermodels and actresses that bother him constantly and so he’s here looking to meet a girl on the internet.

But you aren’t that shallow right? No, not you. You’re not stuck in fantasyland and neither am I.

If that made you smile send me a message. I may not have a yacht or make 6 figures but I’m damned entertaining, pretty interesting, and quite the handsome devil too when I get all decked out.

If it didn’t make you smile: sorry, You can go back to fantasyland now!

Ciao
Bill

Sent by amarosa105 to me:

Two things - I do not live in a fantasy world and I am not shallow. Sorry to say that you'll never know who I am and I know what I want and need. Life is beautiful. "Good things come to those that are patient" Please do not reply.

Sent by me to Amarosa105:

Who pissed in your wheaties? You ARE stupid... and shallow and rude. oh and Puh-leeeez dont reply since i just blocked your sorry ass.

#3) Verbal sparring…

Sent to Lottie422

(Same intro letter as to the other girls)

Sent to me by Lottie422:

Fantasyland??? You mean not all that stuff is real? Way to burst my bubble! My fantasyland consists of going out to eat at a restaurant with my 2 year old son, and actually getting to finish my meal. So, yes,... you did make me laugh.

Sent by me to her:

Faaaaaboulous dahling!

I'll make you laugh even more when we meet. Oh, but to arrange that I'll need to get the digits.
Later... Bill

Sent to me by her:

Booked.

Hey, sounds great and all, but I'm absolutly booked this week/weekend. Can we just e-mail each other until I get back next week? By the way, from your picture, your a good-looking guy,....just out of curiosity, why are you using this service? L.

Sent by me:

You must be psychic
I was thinking next week myself.

AS to why I'm on this site... Well the way I see it You can only meet so many women in a day. Usually I talk to 6 to 10 a week. out of those 6 or 10 maybe half give their number. out of those i'll end up with 0-3 dates of which 1 might actually show up.

On this site I can check every couple of weeks and find 15 or 20 girls in my same age range that I know are single and looking. Of those I get about the same number of flakes, blow-offs and other BS that I get from a week of playing the dating game. Only it took 15 minutes to fire off some emails instead of a week of going up to strange women, hoping they aren't married, or lesbo, or strokers or headcases.

Besides you just never know who you might meet here right?

Sent by her:

Wow, you sure have figured out the odds of getting a date. Sounds like you have a pretty good plan. Well, like you said in your essay, it won't be a date, we'll just meet somewhere for lunch or something. Sound OK? So you're half hillbilly? That's funny. I spent 3 years in North Cackalacky, lots of you folks there. Don't worry, I won't hold it against you. Well, hey, sorry this is short. I'll make it up next time...

Sent by me:

SO what would your hangup be about meeting me for a DATE? Makes me wonder... So I'll put it to you this way: 1) Yes, I asked you on a date. 2) No. I'm not looking for a platonic frined or some sort of email buddy. Let me be very clear with you on what my intentions are. I'm looking for a lover. If that bothers you, then please, look elsewhere.

Sent by her:

You are all alike!
The reason I said it wouldn't be a date is because of one of your answers on your essay, mentioning that you would just want to meet somewhere like a pub, or for lunch. If you are just expecting a lover out of this, you may be e-mailing the wrong gal. Some time back I wouldn't have thought twice about the subject, but now that I have my son, my outlook on that whole thing has changed. I can't just think about myself anymore. So, if that in fact is all your looking for, I won't expect to hear from you again. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for a serious relationship either. And I'm not going to say that the situation you want is not totally out of the question. But I'd like to think there is a choice in the matter. If I scared you off, I'll understand. But in turn, I hope you understand where I'm coming from.

Sent by me:

I am NOT all alike!

Hahaha. very funny. No dear. I just have to get clear what I want because of the type of women I tend to meet here. Many are not even open to the possibility of having a lover for various reasons, but they will still go out with a guy, let him spend money on her, give her all sorts of attention, waste all sorts of time pursuing her and on and on. to me this is a very dishonest and selfish way for a girl to boost her ego, but many do and think its fine. for some reason I meet more girls like this online than from in person meetings. From our first correspondence it seemed like you were sort of heading in the direction of some sort of undefined level of freindship that de-ephasized any sort of physical relationship. I don't accept that because it gives you total control over what happens and keeps me off-balance guessing. It also keeps me pursuing you. I don't chase. I meet half-way. Games are a lot of fun, just not in relationships. Even ones that haven't started yet. ;-) You don't scare me, and you've earned my respect by not being intimdated by my honesty. I think that's a great start. I'd like to talk if send me a number.

If not, good luck.
Bill

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There are three examples. A good, a bad, and a so-so still in progress.

Later.
BigBill

 

[Paradox]

Interesting. Jerk style via e-mail...

Q: How many responses did you get to your AD?

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[BigBill]

Dude, 0.

The site I go to keeps stats of how many times your profile has been browsed. Mine has been looked at like 450+ times and I have had something like 3 girls ever message me.

but...
The thing that makes me stand out is my intro letter. Every couple of weeks I do a search, paste that letter and send it to the 10-20 new girls in my age reange and the replies just start pouring in.

those three were from the last batch I did. there are 3 others that I'm working on from that batch and I only sent out 10.

there was one from the last batch that I wish I'd saved. I sent that intro letter, she made a very positive reply back, I wrote and asked for her phone number and she wrote back that I was too young (I'm like 5 years younger than her).

I tee'd off on that ho. I wrote her back that she was a typical internet flake and if people don't rate with her not to waste their time by replying and a bunch of other sheit. I felt bad about it cause I haven't totally gotten over being a nice guy. but when I got her arrogant reply back about what a headcase I was and how she had really wanted to be my FRIEND before I wrote that letter back...

Well lets just say I got a very good feeling knowing that I had put that smug little stroker in her place like no other man probobly ever had.

I'll probobly get banned from there one of these days for doing things like that. Oh well. I'll have fun until then.

for my intro letter I wanted to
a) be funny
b) be different
c) weed out the ones who are too full of themselves (like b1tchy broad)

I think it works well.

 

[latiness]

Dude, online macking is for chumps
get some balls and go up to girls in PERSON!!
havent you learned anything here?

 

[BigBill]

No guess not.

Now go fukk yourself.

That's about all the reply that last post deserved. But really, now answer me this:

Why does the fact that I can get girls of the net make me a chump?

Before you answer you might want to know that in addition to macking online I also get numbers from these other places:

School
work
restaruants
the mall
clubs
bars
My Judo Club
out of town on trips
my apartment complex
stores
gas stations

so am I a chump for that too? Maybe if you COULD get a girl from the net you WOULD. Most likely you don't know sheit about it and thats why you don't do it. Try using what I did there as a model and you'll see that using the net for macking is a great way to add to whatever you already do.

It takes me 15 minutes to cut and paste and introduce myself to 20 girls. out of that I'll get usually about half of their phone numbers and have fun dissin the rest.

how does that compare to what you do in 15 minutes? that's what I thought.

[This message has been edited by BigBill (edited 09-26-2001).]

 

[Lorenzo]

Yo, bill, y is it that someone is always fvckin with u?

I think ur post is ok, tho i wouldn't ever use a dating service... but it helps cuz you could e-mail someting similer to a girl you no and have her e-mail, thanks man...

UR STILL MY HERO! Lol.

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"The only true knoledge, is knowing that you know nothing" -Socretes
"If ya' can't beat 'em, there not tied down hard enough!" -me and my friend, (all in fun)
"Guilt, my friend, is like a bag of fvcking bricks... all you have to do, is set 'em down" -Satan(played by Al Pachino in The Devil's Advocate)

 

[BigBill]

Lol

good ol 'zo'. Knew I could count on ya! Hey, I ask for at least half the trouble I get so I'm ok with people taking shots. The problem with that post was that the guy didnt really attack anything I said. He just said I'm a chump and I need to get out and talk to real girls.

Hell, anyone who's seen my posts knows that almost all of them are about approaching girls face to face. Not like I'm sitting here hiding behind my monitor scared to talk to a woman. sheesh!

so I found another way to get dates that works good and takes less time than throwing rap. That makes me a loser chump? Riiiight.

He can have his opinion but damn, if all hes gonna do is namecall without backing it up, he should have just moved on. It says right in the title what the post is about.

 

[Jazzman]

Big Bill,

I like the sence of irony your email conveys.
Seldom in a chance meeting would one be able to convey your subtle( and at the same time) not so subtle humor.

I learned from it, so I guess I'm a chump too.


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Keep yor stick on the ice.
Jazzman

 

[BigBill]

Well that's cool

2 people whose opinions mean something at least thought this thread was worth a laugh or two.

I hope some people actually try this stuff out and report back. I'd like to see how Jazzman handles things. I'm the bull in the china shop, he's more the honey-tounged poet. I'll bet those internet chicks would just eat that stuff up.

 

[Poosy Marauder]

I raise a motion that this belongs in the DJ bible...anyone second?

I haven't tried the internet dating scene yet but I'm thinking about giving it a try.
The Doc Love system seems to rely on volume, you crank through the numbers rejecting women as they prove themselves unworthy until you find a gem.

I'm a busy man and plan to get busier so the internet has a certain attraction of efficiently being able to make contact with dozens of available women in my age group.

Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with meeting people this way, its just another tool at a DJs disposal.
The same rules apply of not being a nice guy and letting yourself get used and jerked around. BigBills emails are a text book example.

Can you post some more of your work? I'm keen to learn more about this form of the art.

Good job.

 

[BigBill]

Here is an update:

on the 'verbal sparring' one. I got this letter from her just now:

The only games I play are on a field. I'm not into the mind game thing, and
anyone who is can expect to be looked down upon by me. I understand that you
would ultimately like to have an intimate relationship with who you date, but
I also have to be able to meet someone, be attracted to them,---not just
physically, before I give up that much of myself. I don't want to be in total
control of this dating thing, but I do like to have choices and be in control
of my actions. With that comes a certain dignity and respect for myself.
Hopefully, whoever I date will have that same respect for me. Believe me, I
really don't want someone to "dote" over me either. I don't want to be used,
and I think it's pretty sickening that someone would have to have attention
from someone else in order to feel good about themselves.

If you would still like to call, here's my #___-____(she gave it, i edited it out). I'll be in and out of the house today, but after tomorrow, I'll be gone till Monday.

that first chick also sent her number today. so If i end up calling them (I have 5 other numbers from this week and a slew from the last 2 weeks) I'll post here whether they were like good looking, or dogs or what.

 

[BigBill]

Bump!

Hey, someone asked about how to get dates with an online service.

 

[Don the Legend]

Hey Bigbill,

I have in the past answered some email seduction. I never got responses back except for those bogus porn sites that put up fake pictures of girls. Maybe it was because of my content of what I said in the email. I am not sure.

But, I was wondering something. When you send your initial email to a girl, do you send a picture. My friend has been doing this for years. He told me that he only gets responses from girls that he sends a picture and a letter like yours. Is that the same for you?

Thanks,

Legend

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"Do not make excuses, whether it s your fault or not."....George S. Patton

"Anyone in any walk of life who is content with mediocrity is untrue to himself and the American way." ... George S. Patton

 

[BigBill]

Most sites these days

let you have the opton to put up a picture in your profile. Most girls that are interested in your intro letter will immediately check your profile. If you don't have a pic up it puts you at a disadvantage.

Its consdiered ok for a girl not to put her pic up out of carefulness to avoid stalkers and whatnot, but for a guy its pretty much expected that you put it up. If you don't you are telling her that you are ashamed of your looks or don't have access to a scanner.

Anyway, I've said before I have a very unusual look, chicks either really dig it, or they totally don't like it. So I want them to know before they waste any of my time whether they would be interested in fukking me or not. With my schedule of work school working out at my judo club, trying to fit in some sleep now and then and sheit, I don't go on many dates as it is, not looking to get to a date with a chick that don't like the way I look.

 

[Don the Legend]

Thanks for the information Bigbill.

Legend

 

[TANMAN]

Hey, dude, there's not one thing wrong with net mackin, email mackin, face ta face mackin, friend mackin, bar mackin, mall mackin, work mackin (well, watch out with that one)- just do it. It's ALL good- I've been laid using all of the above. Just another tool for a good Don. You'd be stupid not to use all the tools at your disposal. Do whichever one happens to be convenient for you at the moment.

 

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