Every Man Here Needs to Cold Approach Women

[characternote]

With numbers like that, does it even make sense to go to bars to meet women? I’m not being negative or black pill, just asking from a pure mathematical perspective. It appears to me that it may not be worth the time and money to go out...

People ask that all the time
For me, i'm out anyway on weekends in bars with my friends. That's how I enjoy myself
I'm not going out of my way to meet girls if that makes sense. I'm there anyway! May aswell try my luck

And it's definitely 'worth it' for me, despite the numbers. I've banged a number of girls who i'd never believe i'd have banged if you told me a few years before that I would. Cute younger girls who were for whatever reason into me who i'd never have met if not for cold approach. Even a very very hot 17 year old like 14 years younger than me lol (age of consent is 16 here)

 

[AttackFormation]

People ask that all the time
For me, i'm out anyway on weekends in bars with my friends. That's how I enjoy myself
I'm not going out of my way to meet girls if that makes sense. I'm there anyway! May aswell try my luck

And it's definitely 'worth it' for me, despite the numbers. I've banged a number of girls who i'd never believe i'd have banged if you told me a few years before that I would. Cute younger girls who were for whatever reason into me who i'd never have met if not for cold approach. Even a very very hot 17 year old like 14 years younger than me lol (age of consent is 16 here)

Ws it without condoms? lol

 

[Barrister]

Cold approaching should be done without any expectations. Men get flustered when they don't have instant success. What has helped me over the last few years is the following:

1. You "miss 100% of the shots you don't take" as the great MJ said. Talking to them is better than not. You are guaranteed to wind up with nothing with the latter. You have a chance if you talk.

2. This is much better than OLD because you stand out immediately by having some balls to go up to them and talk without knowing anything else. You are also their sole focus (and not the other 200+ matches they have if they are hot).

3. There is literally ZERO reason to be nervous. This is NOT a job interview, public speech, presidential address, etc.

4. Keep the conversation casual and friendly at first rather than trying to open with some lame pick up line. This immediately lowers their defenses to you. Being charming during this is key. You can many times easily get the number at the end of a friendly conversation.

5. Understand that MOST cold approaches are not going to yield a date/bang for you. Hence why you should not have that expectation going in.

You can pull much hotter women cold approaching than you ever will off OLD where they either won't be (because they are hot and don't need it) or if they are on there they will have endless options and you will have a hard time standing out.

Good post, @Zimbabwe

 

[characternote]

Ws it without condoms? lol

are you asking if I wore a condom with the girl I mention at the end? Or in general?
The answer is 'no condoms' for all of them tbh. I don't like

 

[AttackFormation]

are you asking if I wore a condom with the girl I mention at the end? Or in general?
The answer is 'no condoms' for all of them tbh. I don't like

Yea with all of them, no condoms makes it sound worth it to me too. I would genuinely rather jack off or just do nothing than have "sex" with condoms. Im still amazed that you have the fortitude to do what youve done. Men already have far higher character demands on them in dating than women do (charm, courage, fortitude, intuition, uniqueness ...), but even among men you stand out for your fortitude.

 

[AttackFormation]

Cold approaching should be done without any expectations. Men get flustered when they don't have instant success. What has helped me over the last few years is the following:

1. You "miss 100% of the shots you don't take" as the great MJ said. Talking to them is better than not. You are guaranteed to wind up with nothing with the latter. You have a chance if you talk.

2. This is much better than OLD because you stand out immediately by having some balls to go up to them and talk without knowing anything else. You are also their sole focus (and not the other 200+ matches they have if they are hot).

3. There is literally ZERO reason to be nervous. This is NOT a job interview, public speech, presidential address, etc.

4. Keep the conversation casual and friendly at first rather than trying to open with some lame pick up line. This immediately lowers their defenses to you. Being charming during this is key. You can many times easily get the number at the end of a friendly conversation.

5. Understand that MOST cold approaches are not going to yield a date/bang for you. Hence why you should not have that expectation going in.

You can pull much hotter women cold approaching than you ever will off OLD where they either won't be (because they are hot and don't need it) or if they are on there they will have endless options and you will have a hard time standing out.

Good post, @Zimbabwe

Do you live in a place with year round warm weather? or is your approaching seasonal/indoor based in the cold season?

 

[Barrister]

Do you live in a place with year round warm weather? or is your approaching seasonal/indoor based in the cold season?

No - I live in the midwest. Cold-approaching is definitely better when it is warmer out. There is no doubt about that. But we do have a number of good inside venues for it as well.

However, I generally never go out with the goal to be cold-approaching women. Usually I am out with friends and notice a woman (or women) I am interested in and I simply go up and speak to them.

 

[AttackFormation]

One day you guys will catch genital herpes, then you will look for partners on websites for people living with herpes.
Or HIV if you're lucky and take pills for the rest of your life. Sounds like a lot of fun, just for 5s of pleasure.

If you want to make your life a nightmare, that's the way!

That risk would be a problem if i was hooking up, but i live in celibacy and have for almost all my life. Celibacy is better than sex with condoms or girls you arent even aroused by. But yes, so far ive been fortunate to not catch anything.

 

[lost_blackbird]

For those of you that are anti cold approach, what is your alternative? OLD is not better for sure.

How about doing neither? I don’t understand this apparently desperate need to spend time with women at all… 99% of the time females just annoy me and I’m not great at containing my displeasure with them. Despite everything I continue to persevere with the giant dumpster that is Tinder. I messaged a match only today, again she was one who matched me first and I was able to work out who she was from the blurry pic so I gave her a go. This time I just went with a simple “Hey.” After 3 days of no response from her I followed up with “Suit yourself Toots. You’re obviously on here for the validation, I’ll leave you to your sea of choices lining up to spend time with an ageing, slightly overweight single mum. Good luck” I just don’t have the patience to play all these silly games. She unmatched so I know she saw the message. Good, on both counts.

 

[zinc4]

A man sees a women on the street he likes, and goes and talks to her and has a human to human conversation, something humans have been doing for millions of years.

I've done many cold approaches in public.
Women fantasize about an alpha confident guy who comes in and sweeps them off their feet/takes them. In no women's fantasy is a guy ever saying stuff like "hey let me ask you for a female opinion, who do you think is more gay, me or Ricky Martin".

You are a man and you deserve to have a good woman in your life. Give yourself permission to find a woman attractive and be comfortable with your sexual desires. Creepy behavior comes from those who can't acknowledge social queues. If you ignore her body language or words that's when you become creepy. Brightening someone's day isn't creepy behavior. Being overtly sexual before getting to know her is creepy behavior

This is very true. Cold approaching rarely leads to real results unless done a lot and often. However, it will greatly increase your tolerance for rejection, spontaneity, comfort zone and will help you greatly when out at night time around women.

 

[zinc4]

lzonel

How about doing neither? I don’t understand this apparently desperate need to spend time with women at all… 99% of the time females just annoy me and I’m not great at containing my displeasure with them. Despite everything I continue to persevere with the giant dumpster that is Tinder. I messaged a match only today, again she was one who matched me first and I was able to work out who she was from the blurry pic so I gave her a go. This time I just went with a simple “Hey.” After 3 days of no response from her I followed up with “Suit yourself Toots. You’re obviously on here for the validation, I’ll leave you to your sea of choices lining up to spend time with an ageing, slightly overweight single mum. Good luck” I just don’t have the patience to play all these silly games. She unmatched so I know she saw the message. Good, on both counts.

Lol you really stressing out over one random tinder girl? Ffs

 

[zinc4]

There's another important thing about Cold Approach. It's very hard.

Most Cold Approaches do not lead to sex. This needs to be very clear for guys. The best thing about Cold Approach is that it is extremely good for your masculine core.

I would say that an average Cold Approacher probably bangs 1 out of 100 cold approaches or even way less. That's the amount of failure we are talking here. You can't even put an exact number on it - there are no guarantees. If you're a spam-approaching autist then you could probably do a million approaches and not even get a number.

I come across daygamers in my city, from time to time, who are very committed and pretty much only get laid 2 or 3 times a year purely from daygame alone - these are your average, run-of-the-mill white guys. And they are going out every weekend and doing approaches.

I think most guys aren't prepared for that, and don't have the constitution to weather that much rejection. You have to be a pretty cold dude to be able to do daygame regularly and consistently.

Exactly. Cold approaching is not about results. If you obsess over results with it, it will indeed make you very unhappy. You dont have to just cold approach women you are attracted to. It can be anyone. It 100 percent improves your comfort level and social skills, just like a good sales job will.

 

[lost_blackbird]

Lol you really stressing out over one random tinder girl? Ffs

No, not stressing out. As I said in my post. I don't have the patience to play silly games.
I mean we can't all be Captain Studmuffin like you must be and to be honest I get about
1 like a week on tinder so I try and figure out who that was from the blurry pic to see what
they're like. I don't swipe right on anybody unless I've figured out who they are. She wasn't
hideous but no more than a 5/10, but in the interests of being open minded I gave her a shot.
TInder is a very different experience when you're pushing 50 with an ex-wife in your past.
So when I do get some attention on there I examine it closely. Most of the time I rarely get
so much as a like, maybe it's because I've been honest in my profile and my age is displayed.
I'm just too old and battle scarred to fanny about with the sh1tty schoolyard tactics these fat,
worn out, blown out puss women employ while they gather validation, and I'm autistically
honest when I let them know this. It gives me more satisfaction shining a light on their low
value than any date might ever have done. The possibility of getting sex is no motivation for
me whatsoever so I won't just tell them what they want to hear to get access to their well
smashed axe wound and I have no hesitation to tell them exactly what I think of them and
their antics. Someone's got to tell it like it is to these deluded women. The same honesty got
me banned from Bumble.

 

[AttackFormation]

I kind of agree/get your point. I question the "serial daters" on here: the ones who claim to go on three "actual dates" per week (the ones that say "hey i have cash to squander so why no spend it on a random scrub". Do they not have any other interests in life or mates that they hang around with, shoot pool with, play cards, few beers. The seem to prefer the company of women (Not talking about sex, but spending time in women's company). I can only put up with one female per week these days. Granted this week has been a bit of an exception. Bar hook up last night and ironically meeting up with a female from Tinder (since deleted it. I tried Tinder for first time this year. downloaded and deleted it three times so far. The bar chick: Went out for a few beers with the lads...local bar. Few beers no women talk. went home to an empty house. Now what happened after I have to reflect on.....neediness? alcohol leading to wanting sex? a huge sense of entitlement? Few beers in house, left house to head to city with intention of "getting what I want" (entitlement). A little bit dangerous as alcohol fueled (...thank God for the app social drive.....). Got to night bar (this is what I can never understand about fellas claiming they can't get any.....men and women have been going to bars for ions and hooking up/getting together) You put men and women in a dark room with music and alcohol....it's inevitable what's going to happen....what's happend for years.....babies are made (or at least the act of it). My beer googles told me she was an 8 (granted I don't really think about this rating system just stating it for fun here I suppose) but the next day she (today) she was a seven. Was similar to my "prototype" : Tall and dark. But very much not in another way: short hair. Beer goggles were to blame from the drop from an 8 to a 7? Nah she used a good foundation. Next day I could see she had bad skin (those spots on the face? Skin crawling stuff. But she was a goer. Back to your point: We went back to hers and her friends would come back a few hours later. Girl I was with was relatively quiet personality wise. Boring but I would prefer her to be quite rather than a blabermouth. Her two friends came back and they were the worst kind of blabermouths. they were doing coke and were the worst kind of coke fiends: one of them wanted to hoard it all and stay in a seperate room talking to herself, the other one was hellbent on proving "i can take it or leave it so I don't care but I am going to constantly badmouth my friend to you two" She talked non stop the bitatch. (I thought it was just the coke but I would find out next morning the girl can't go 10 seconds without saying something inane) After a half an hour or so I was massaging my forehead and mouthy girl asked if i had a headache. Not one to lie I said calmly "yeah it's just you keep repeating yourself". She kept saying "I'm sorry for annoying you but she ...(and would go on about the coke hoarding friend..)" and then wanting to fist pump and saying "are we cool?" We went to the bedroom, naked getting busy....but the mouthy one coudn't be alone and initially started talking through the door "sorry for disturbing but...." until eventually she opened the door......and had no qualms about entering. I have no doubt that she would have been willing but 1. she was irritating as fvck 2. She was small little widget (think of an evil goblin ). she wasn't coming anywhere near me. Later the other one would knock on the door and open it and call me. me "what?" her "come here" She is standing there in her knicker and a scantly top (tattoos on legs and arms) short died blond hair. Now, she was fvckable. Naughty, slutty, prostitute looking fvckable.....I went to the door. She lifted up A CRACK PIPE and a lighter with this caveat "If get a couple of grams betweens, sell it on and get more out of the profit (some bull****e like that....)..."Nah you're good" slammed the door in her face. The one i was with was quiet but quite vocal in the bedroom, don't know if that pulled the other two in or just the coke making them morbid (or the two). I'm cynical though and wherever there's drugs there is people trying to manipulate you into parting with your cash . Anyway, left at midday. Drove away into glorious sunset. All were still sleeping and I went on my merry way. It is a beautiful sunny day and I can't helped being gripped by a feeling of "was that worth it?" "it is a beautiful day I could be out with trekking group or enjoying this natural world". And with an urge to get back into surfing. Is it worth at times.

I got home and I after spending time with intolerable, mouthy females I need to disconnect and reset. then I remember i'm supposed to meet that tinder female at 17h today. Damn. I want to be alone. Will I cancel. I check my archived whatsapp messages (no notifications, great that way) and she had sent a message the night before "see you tomorrow caballero". then this morning (as I hadn't responded) "are we still on for today?" Now I let that irritate me thinking "i gave this female the ubication to my house and a time to meet" (I know, random tinder and ubication to house, but we have chatted ....and she seems a bit more cultured, interesting.....that being said....she likes to drink (which I do to so all good) and she is a weed smoker (not my cup of tea) so let's see are these dark shadows that will come out!) anyway i thought of women needing to confirm and then flaking and wondered should I cut it. Then realized that was a projection as I was feeling the need to be alone and reset. The girl is driving from a different provence to see me. By the way, even though this was mode one (we had chatted built rapport) she got direct instructions to come to my house and obliged. That being said, to kind of agree with the "dating guys", i'm not going to just sit in my house boozing and getting busy with her.....it would be boring. I live by a river waterfront and I feel like heading down there walking by the water stopping at a river side bar and having some tapas and wine. later we will go back to mine, beers on the roof and she will stay the night.

But still part of me is conflicted thinking that they really are such a time suck.



I get that. Can you change how you frame them? Annoying bratty children? (as you are English I am going to go Jimmy Carr dark comedy here) annoying bratty children that you would like to fvck? (the Brits will get that) Don't let them irritate you to the point that it brings out the worst in you.



You can't take the matching and not saying anything personal. The matching and unmatching and sending a message and either getting a response or not is just like a phase one. It's hit and miss. I do not frame it as "oh she has a million options so this whole thing is rigged".
a) I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea and every women is not going to be my cup of tea of either 2) I don't believe that every woman has "a million options" this is red pill puke fallacy. Some woman are just dumb and don't know how to get the ball rolling. Especially online.



"hey" is not going to do it. I don't normally reply to "heys" or I do so with little enthusiasm". You have to give a few lines and give something that will "hook" her. A "hey" won't hook anybody.



what were your expectations after a "hey"? your expectations were not in tune with reality. you felt disappointed. See "your expectations".



No. You don't follow up a no response with anything. Why don't you tell Castro that you disagree with Communism? He doesn't care.



Listen, here's the first rule that you need "Strong personal boundaries show the ability to say NO and the ability to hear No". What you sent was very low class (that doesn't mean you are low class, just your response displayed low class and low value and bad energy.

The worst part of the red pill is this "woman are evil and they are out to get us, the game is rigged, therefor I can't win/get what I want so I am opting out and I will just blame it all on female nature"

The best part of the red pill is "Women are they way they are, If I want what I want from them I must update my software, adapt and evolve.....game"



Mate that is not a game. The hey just didn't give her anywhere to go with the conversation. Up your game youngster.

She wouldve replied if she wantedr to fvck him and so would you

 

[andreihaha]

I kind of agree/get your point. I question the "serial daters" on here: the ones who claim to go on three "actual dates" per week (the ones that say "hey i have cash to squander so why no spend it on a random scrub". Do they not have any other interests in life or mates that they hang around with, shoot pool with, play cards, few beers. The seem to prefer the company of women (Not talking about sex, but spending time in women's company). I can only put up with one female per week these days. Granted this week has been a bit of an exception. Bar hook up last night and ironically meeting up with a female from Tinder (since deleted it. I tried Tinder for first time this year. downloaded and deleted it three times so far. The bar chick: Went out for a few beers with the lads...local bar. Few beers no women talk. went home to an empty house. Now what happened after I have to reflect on.....neediness? alcohol leading to wanting sex? a huge sense of entitlement? Few beers in house, left house to head to city with intention of "getting what I want" (entitlement). A little bit dangerous as alcohol fueled (...thank God for the app social drive.....). Got to night bar (this is what I can never understand about fellas claiming they can't get any.....men and women have been going to bars for ions and hooking up/getting together) You put men and women in a dark room with music and alcohol....it's inevitable what's going to happen....what's happend for years.....babies are made (or at least the act of it). My beer googles told me she was an 8 (granted I don't really think about this rating system just stating it for fun here I suppose) but the next day she (today) she was a seven. Was similar to my "prototype" : Tall and dark. But very much not in another way: short hair. Beer goggles were to blame from the drop from an 8 to a 7? Nah she used a good foundation. Next day I could see she had bad skin (those spots on the face? Skin crawling stuff. But she was a goer. Back to your point: We went back to hers and her friends would come back a few hours later. Girl I was with was relatively quiet personality wise. Boring but I would prefer her to be quite rather than a blabermouth. Her two friends came back and they were the worst kind of blabermouths. they were doing coke and were the worst kind of coke fiends: one of them wanted to hoard it all and stay in a seperate room talking to herself, the other one was hellbent on proving "i can take it or leave it so I don't care but I am going to constantly badmouth my friend to you two" She talked non stop the bitatch. (I thought it was just the coke but I would find out next morning the girl can't go 10 seconds without saying something inane) After a half an hour or so I was massaging my forehead and mouthy girl asked if i had a headache. Not one to lie I said calmly "yeah it's just you keep repeating yourself". She kept saying "I'm sorry for annoying you but she ...(and would go on about the coke hoarding friend..)" and then wanting to fist pump and saying "are we cool?" We went to the bedroom, naked getting busy....but the mouthy one coudn't be alone and initially started talking through the door "sorry for disturbing but...." until eventually she opened the door......and had no qualms about entering. I have no doubt that she would have been willing but 1. she was irritating as fvck 2. She was small little widget (think of an evil goblin ). she wasn't coming anywhere near me. Later the other one would knock on the door and open it and call me. me "what?" her "come here" She is standing there in her knicker and a scantly top (tattoos on legs and arms) short died blond hair. Now, she was fvckable. Naughty, slutty, prostitute looking fvckable.....I went to the door. She lifted up A CRACK PIPE and a lighter with this caveat "If get a couple of grams betweens, sell it on and get more out of the profit (some bull****e like that....)..."Nah you're good" slammed the door in her face. The one i was with was quiet but quite vocal in the bedroom, don't know if that pulled the other two in or just the coke making them morbid (or the two). I'm cynical though and wherever there's drugs there is people trying to manipulate you into parting with your cash . Anyway, left at midday. Drove away into glorious sunset. All were still sleeping and I went on my merry way. It is a beautiful sunny day and I can't helped being gripped by a feeling of "was that worth it?" "it is a beautiful day I could be out with trekking group or enjoying this natural world". And with an urge to get back into surfing. Is it worth at times.

I got home and I after spending time with intolerable, mouthy females I need to disconnect and reset. then I remember i'm supposed to meet that tinder female at 17h today. Damn. I want to be alone. Will I cancel. I check my archived whatsapp messages (no notifications, great that way) and she had sent a message the night before "see you tomorrow caballero". then this morning (as I hadn't responded) "are we still on for today?" Now I let that irritate me thinking "i gave this female the ubication to my house and a time to meet" (I know, random tinder and ubication to house, but we have chatted ....and she seems a bit more cultured, interesting.....that being said....she likes to drink (which I do to so all good) and she is a weed smoker (not my cup of tea) so let's see are these dark shadows that will come out!) anyway i thought of women needing to confirm and then flaking and wondered should I cut it. Then realized that was a projection as I was feeling the need to be alone and reset. The girl is driving from a different provence to see me. By the way, even though this was mode one (we had chatted built rapport) she got direct instructions to come to my house and obliged. That being said, to kind of agree with the "dating guys", i'm not going to just sit in my house boozing and getting busy with her.....it would be boring. I live by a river waterfront and I feel like heading down there walking by the water stopping at a river side bar and having some tapas and wine. later we will go back to mine, beers on the roof and she will stay the night.

But still part of me is conflicted thinking that they really are such a time suck.



I get that. Can you change how you frame them? Annoying bratty children? (as you are English I am going to go Jimmy Carr dark comedy here) annoying bratty children that you would like to fvck? (the Brits will get that) Don't let them irritate you to the point that it brings out the worst in you.



You can't take the matching and not saying anything personal. The matching and unmatching and sending a message and either getting a response or not is just like a phase one. It's hit and miss. I do not frame it as "oh she has a million options so this whole thing is rigged".
a) I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea and every women is not going to be my cup of tea of either 2) I don't believe that every woman has "a million options" this is red pill puke fallacy. Some woman are just dumb and don't know how to get the ball rolling. Especially online.



"hey" is not going to do it. I don't normally reply to "heys" or I do so with little enthusiasm". You have to give a few lines and give something that will "hook" her. A "hey" won't hook anybody.



what were your expectations after a "hey"? your expectations were not in tune with reality. you felt disappointed. See "your expectations".



No. You don't follow up a no response with anything. Why don't you tell Castro that you disagree with Communism? He doesn't care.



Listen, here's the first rule that you need "Strong personal boundaries show the ability to say NO and the ability to hear No". What you sent was very low class (that doesn't mean you are low class, just your response displayed low class and low value and bad energy.

The worst part of the red pill is this "woman are evil and they are out to get us, the game is rigged, therefor I can't win/get what I want so I am opting out and I will just blame it all on female nature"

The best part of the red pill is "Women are they way they are, If I want what I want from them I must update my software, adapt and evolve.....game"



Mate that is not a game. The hey just didn't give her anywhere to go with the conversation. Up your game youngster.

I just wanted to tell you that a lot of people won't read 2000 characters that are all in one fking paragraph man...
Maybe I'm the one with the problem. Don't get me wrong, I really want to read what you've written, but I can't, press enter once in a while

Sorry for being off-topic, maybe tomorrow after some sleep I'll be able to read it in one sitting.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I kind of agree/get your point. I question the "serial daters" on here: the ones who claim to go on three "actual dates" per week (the ones that say "hey i have cash to squander so why no spend it on a random scrub". Do they not have any other interests in life or mates that they hang around with, shoot pool with, play cards, few beers. The seem to prefer the company of women (Not talking about sex, but spending time in women's company). I can only put up with one female per week these days. Granted this week has been a bit of an exception. Bar hook up last night and ironically meeting up with a female from Tinder (since deleted it. I tried Tinder for first time this year. downloaded and deleted it three times so far. The bar chick: Went out for a few beers with the lads...local bar. Few beers no women talk. went home to an empty house. Now what happened after I have to reflect on.....neediness? alcohol leading to wanting sex? a huge sense of entitlement? Few beers in house, left house to head to city with intention of "getting what I want" (entitlement). A little bit dangerous as alcohol fueled (...thank God for the app social drive.....). Got to night bar (this is what I can never understand about fellas claiming they can't get any.....men and women have been going to bars for ions and hooking up/getting together) You put men and women in a dark room with music and alcohol....it's inevitable what's going to happen....what's happend for years.....babies are made (or at least the act of it). My beer googles told me she was an 8 (granted I don't really think about this rating system just stating it for fun here I suppose) but the next day she (today) she was a seven. Was similar to my "prototype" : Tall and dark. But very much not in another way: short hair. Beer goggles were to blame from the drop from an 8 to a 7? Nah she used a good foundation. Next day I could see she had bad skin (those spots on the face? Skin crawling stuff. But she was a goer. Back to your point: We went back to hers and her friends would come back a few hours later. Girl I was with was relatively quiet personality wise. Boring but I would prefer her to be quite rather than a blabermouth. Her two friends came back and they were the worst kind of blabermouths. they were doing coke and were the worst kind of coke fiends: one of them wanted to hoard it all and stay in a seperate room talking to herself, the other one was hellbent on proving "i can take it or leave it so I don't care but I am going to constantly badmouth my friend to you two" She talked non stop the bitatch. (I thought it was just the coke but I would find out next morning the girl can't go 10 seconds without saying something inane) After a half an hour or so I was massaging my forehead and mouthy girl asked if i had a headache. Not one to lie I said calmly "yeah it's just you keep repeating yourself". She kept saying "I'm sorry for annoying you but she ...(and would go on about the coke hoarding friend..)" and then wanting to fist pump and saying "are we cool?" We went to the bedroom, naked getting busy....but the mouthy one coudn't be alone and initially started talking through the door "sorry for disturbing but...." until eventually she opened the door......and had no qualms about entering. I have no doubt that she would have been willing but 1. she was irritating as fvck 2. She was small little widget (think of an evil goblin ). she wasn't coming anywhere near me. Later the other one would knock on the door and open it and call me. me "what?" her "come here" She is standing there in her knicker and a scantly top (tattoos on legs and arms) short died blond hair. Now, she was fvckable. Naughty, slutty, prostitute looking fvckable.....I went to the door. She lifted up A CRACK PIPE and a lighter with this caveat "If get a couple of grams betweens, sell it on and get more out of the profit (some bull****e like that....)..."Nah you're good" slammed the door in her face. The one i was with was quiet but quite vocal in the bedroom, don't know if that pulled the other two in or just the coke making them morbid (or the two). I'm cynical though and wherever there's drugs there is people trying to manipulate you into parting with your cash . Anyway, left at midday. Drove away into glorious sunset. All were still sleeping and I went on my merry way. It is a beautiful sunny day and I can't helped being gripped by a feeling of "was that worth it?" "it is a beautiful day I could be out with trekking group or enjoying this natural world". And with an urge to get back into surfing. Is it worth at times.

I got home and I after spending time with intolerable, mouthy females I need to disconnect and reset. then I remember i'm supposed to meet that tinder female at 17h today. Damn. I want to be alone. Will I cancel. I check my archived whatsapp messages (no notifications, great that way) and she had sent a message the night before "see you tomorrow caballero". then this morning (as I hadn't responded) "are we still on for today?" Now I let that irritate me thinking "i gave this female the ubication to my house and a time to meet" (I know, random tinder and ubication to house, but we have chatted ....and she seems a bit more cultured, interesting.....that being said....she likes to drink (which I do to so all good) and she is a weed smoker (not my cup of tea) so let's see are these dark shadows that will come out!) anyway i thought of women needing to confirm and then flaking and wondered should I cut it. Then realized that was a projection as I was feeling the need to be alone and reset. The girl is driving from a different provence to see me. By the way, even though this was mode one (we had chatted built rapport) she got direct instructions to come to my house and obliged. That being said, to kind of agree with the "dating guys", i'm not going to just sit in my house boozing and getting busy with her.....it would be boring. I live by a river waterfront and I feel like heading down there walking by the water stopping at a river side bar and having some tapas and wine. later we will go back to mine, beers on the roof and she will stay the night.

But still part of me is conflicted thinking that they really are such a time suck.



I get that. Can you change how you frame them? Annoying bratty children? (as you are English I am going to go Jimmy Carr dark comedy here) annoying bratty children that you would like to fvck? (the Brits will get that) Don't let them irritate you to the point that it brings out the worst in you.



You can't take the matching and not saying anything personal. The matching and unmatching and sending a message and either getting a response or not is just like a phase one. It's hit and miss. I do not frame it as "oh she has a million options so this whole thing is rigged".
a) I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea and every women is not going to be my cup of tea of either 2) I don't believe that every woman has "a million options" this is red pill puke fallacy. Some woman are just dumb and don't know how to get the ball rolling. Especially online.



"hey" is not going to do it. I don't normally reply to "heys" or I do so with little enthusiasm". You have to give a few lines and give something that will "hook" her. A "hey" won't hook anybody.



what were your expectations after a "hey"? your expectations were not in tune with reality. you felt disappointed. See "your expectations".



No. You don't follow up a no response with anything. Why don't you tell Castro that you disagree with Communism? He doesn't care.



Listen, here's the first rule that you need "Strong personal boundaries show the ability to say NO and the ability to hear No". What you sent was very low class (that doesn't mean you are low class, just your response displayed low class and low value and bad energy.

The worst part of the red pill is this "woman are evil and they are out to get us, the game is rigged, therefor I can't win/get what I want so I am opting out and I will just blame it all on female nature"

The best part of the red pill is "Women are they way they are, If I want what I want from them I must update my software, adapt and evolve.....game"



Mate that is not a game. The hey just didn't give her anywhere to go with the conversation. Up your game youngster.

Everyone's different, I've always been good at dating girls but horrible at making friends.

With male friends i remember spending a ton of time working around everyones schedules to organise a meetup, but every guy ended up flaking. So i asked my girlfriend to meetup last minute and we had a great time. I have never looked back since.

With girls it's always been just a time and a place, no excuses like a lot of guy "friends" gave me

 

[andreihaha]

The paragraph is a stream of consciousness narrative. Just call me James Joyce.

Hmm, no wonder people have a hard time finishing Ulyses...