ElStud through the Years

[HolyG]

A Year Ago:

Okay so today I lunch, I basically sat there looking at the direction of a girls table for almost all lunch period until I finally got the balls to approach the group of girls. So I go in there say "Hey" one girl says "Hey", but I couldn't seem to get the groups attention. But I wasn't going to give up, so I said to one of the girls, who I recognized from track, "Hey, you do track don't you?". And that lead to a pretty interesting conversation, we talked about track and she told me how she did shotput and eventually I told her I did distance, and she talked about how she could never see herself doing distance. So we talked about track for a while, and from then, I can't really orderly remember the conversation. She introduced me to her friends at some time in the conversation and I got to know them, and we also talked about prom. Also, she told me she was in pre-calc and eventually I asked her if she could help me with geometry. She said she "could" help me with geometry during lunch, but when I asked for the number, she declined. I also asked her about her weekend, and we talked about Smallville, which was a tv show we both happened to like. At the end of the period, I tried to number close AGAIN, and she declined, AGAIN. She said something like "Uh... I don't know, but it was nice meeting you" translated from Womanese to English, "No, I don't feel safe giving you my number". Ah well, if anything I found a girl I can talk to whenever I'm bored, or not hanging with my friends. Something I got a work on is involving her friends, I basically ignored them for most of the time. I probably came off as too desperate for her number and she didn't feel comfortable giving it to me. I feel like such an idiot for taking so long to get the balls to approach.

Now:

Well at lunch I number closed this girl and with you guys favorite closer! The Rock Band one. Basically I was walking at lunch and opened up the set saying "Hey, are you going to prom?" and she says something like "Yeah, I'm going, but to another schools prom which is on the same day". Then I asked what school and she told me and eventually I started talking about track I think. At one moment I remember asking her if she played baseball and she was like "Oh you mean softball? Yeah". Eventually I was going to end the set, but then I decided I was going to close the set before I ended it. Then I went "Hey, have you heard of this game called Rock Band?" and she's like "I played it yeah". Blah blah, we talk about Rock Band and eventually I'm like "Well I'm going to call you so we can meet up and play it together sometime" and she's like "Okay". Then I take out my phone and she starts putting in the number and at one point says "Sorry, I'm so bad at this" but eventually puts the number in. Then I say "Bye, I might call you or something" and she's like "Okay, bye".

Due to the fact that no one on this board has anything useful or pleasent to say, I will not be replying to any comments made here, good or bad.

As you can see, he's improved tremedously.

 

[dav27]

Does this really need its own thread?

 

[ChrizZ]

You guys have too much time on your hands...

 

[Mad Manic]

You will not pull pretty girls in school/college etc. with no social proof and entering sets alone.

MM

 

[Purple-Haze]

Leave the poor guy alone.

He'll come into his own when he's good and ready. Till then, he's allowed a few blunders along the way. It's the only way he'll learn.

 

[MacAvoy]

Holy G

Maybe the problem with Elstud is that you guys are failing in helping him. Maybe instead of trying to constantly yell & cuss him out, you should try help him out in a productive way. What your doing is obviously not working.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. This is what your doing in your advice to Elstud, your merely cutting hm down. Can you explain how this helps you become a better Don Juan?

Is that what being a Don Juan means to you? Berating a young kid who's trying to improve his game?

I find it totally hilarious all the guys around here constantly bashing this kid. Its like you guys live your lives through him vicariously on this forum. The sad part about all the guys berating him is that they never post examples of how they succeed.

 

[BluEyes]

I berate him and I've had more ***** already in 2008 than he'll see in his whole life.

You know why? Because I actually listened to advice on this site and learned how to apply it to my life. I didn't start calling people trolls and KJs when they gave me bad advice, I just ignored them.

I listened, and I learned, and I have success.

--

Mac, what people hate is this: When you flame him and cuss him out, he calls you a troll and a KJ and a hater. When you post advice that has a bit of an 'edge' to it, he focuses on the edge and gets defensive, and then calls you a troll and a KJ and a hater. When you post docile, sincere(GOOD) advice, he simply ignores your post as if he hadn't even seen it.

That, my dear MacAvoy, is why Elstud is still a virgin.

/edit - you're always the guy going the other way, eh Mac?

 

[MacAvoy]

How old are you Blu? Are you not more mature than him? Can you not act more mature than someone else who is acting immature? Or are you a primate and fall into the monkey see monkey do mentality.

I'm not doubting that he's come across as annoying and not the best at taking criticism but it doesn't help when you all act like a gang trying to make yourselves feel better by berating him. However when I look at the post history of the people berating him, I haven't seen FR's from people demonstrating their skills. I can say I banged 10 000 women on the internet but that doesn't make it true. I'm not saying your a liar, but this is the internet and I've only got your post history to judge you by.

What else I find funny is that the posters who seem to cut him up all seem to have a lot of posts in the H&F forum, its like you's are all too high on testosterone and need a release, to me, it comes across as insecure in manliness. But thats just what I see.

My point is, try taking a different approach to helping him out or ignore him. Your only making yourselves look childish by constantly berating him.

 

[BluEyes]

That's fair enough, it's hard to judge somebody by their internet persona, but you start to notice trends over time.

You can call me a liar if you like, I just realized I can't prove otherwise anymore through field reports.. I had 3 of them but for some reason they've disappeared.

Regardless of how 'bullying' we are, it's irritating when I give him solid advice that I know for a fact works, field tested principles and concepts, that he just completely ignores in favor of responding to some dumb kid who offers nothing to him.

Also MacAvoy, you can dig through my post history, you'll see that for the most part I'm all about improving yourself and fixing problems and getting better each day.

What else I find funny is that the posters who seem to cut him up all seem to have a lot of posts in the H&F forum, its like you's are all too high on testosterone and need a release, to me, it comes across as insecure in manliness. But thats just what I see.

Do you know what the H&F forum represents? Daily and consistent improvement. It's a part of my life, going to the gym and getting fit. It's a part of self-improvement. Perhaps most of the 'H&F guys' who cut him up are the guys who are actively improving their lives on a day to day basis, and know that fitness is important in the dating game. Perhaps it's frustrating for us to even hear about a guy wallowing in his own psychological filth.

By the way, I haven't responded to him in almost a year. He pretty much ignored the gold I slipped into his thread, too busy defending his ego from e-thugs.

No, MacAvoy, I am not a monkey. Rather I'm someone who cares enough about people in general to get frustrated when they d!ck around with their lives while each day slips away.

For the record, I'm pretty much the same age as him.