Without going into deep details...I am visiting a girl from cross country and she is letting me stay in her house. Due to a nice airline hookup I traveled for basically free, so I decided I should treat myself to a nice vacation. We talked a lot before I came and she would send me nudes regularly and leave me messages about how much she wanted me. Now I've been here for 3 days and we makeout, cuddle and I fool aroud with her naked. Yet she is still not willing to ****. She made it explicitly clear that she didn't want to **** the first day I arrived which is no big deal, but I have no clue why she is holding off. I am here 3 more days and have had an awesome trip but this girl is gorgeous so naturally I want to **** as much as possible. Keep in mind she is getting over a cold but wtf??
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Sounds like she is using you as a emotional or sexual tampon for right now. Or possible a tease? Or the cold is bothering her.
I know this has been said many of times. But if a girl wants to fvck you. She will find a way to fvck you. Simple.
Obviously you got to the point of both of you were naked. Are you going in aggressive? Why not heighten the mood and use foreplay to your advantage and get her aroused to the point she will want you to smash.
I know this has been said many of times. But if a girl wants to fvck you. She will find a way to fvck you. Simple.
Obviously you got to the point of both of you were naked. Are you going in aggressive? Why not heighten the mood and use foreplay to your advantage and get her aroused to the point she will want you to smash.
Mr.SomeoneElse
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"I'm getting over a cold, I can't"In10se said:
AKA
"I'M ON MY PERIOD"
No she would tell me if she was on her period, she planned the timing out and said she wouln't start her cycle until next week and even got her business waxed for me...sex was foremost in both of our minds, she did say **** like she was scared of falling in love with me but this is starting to bother me so If she turns down my advances im going to have to ask straight up whatthe issue is...
bcolon
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I would say forget it. It's going to be a headache if you continue to dwell on this subject with her. A woman's emotions or what they want isn't for us men to understand at all. They are driven on emotions. Heavily on emotions. It's either she wants you to smash or no.
"I'm afraid I might fall in love with you". Can sometimes mean "I don't want to fvck you".
Just saying...
"I'm afraid I might fall in love with you". Can sometimes mean "I don't want to fvck you".
Just saying...
She addressed that with me before I came..I mean she seems to be very into me...this is ****ed though...learned my lesson about never traveling over an hour for a girl...the other stupid thing is I have two chicks at home ready and willing to smash at a snap of the fingers...at least I got to do cool **** and have been enjoying the hell out of my time here
Iceberg
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And this, my friends, is why we don't travel across the country to stay with women we've never met before.
Not only is it an act of desperation, but you're also putting the power entirely in the woman's hands.
Not only is it an act of desperation, but you're also putting the power entirely in the woman's hands.
The answer you seek can be found in this post
But you might not like the answer.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=156683
oh by the way women are never 'scared' to fall in love that should have been a tip off.
But you might not like the answer.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=156683
oh by the way women are never 'scared' to fall in love that should have been a tip off.
Yeah I see your point Iceberg but I convinced myself this couldn't go wrong just based on the amount we talked and the level of trust she had in me to let her stay at her house... Also her level of interest was thru the roof...still seems high but idk maybe she is just not as attracted to me as she thought she would be ...very fun learning experience for me
SoSuave666
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There is a clear schism in game theory. Either the girl is a ***** because she wants to fvck you early on, or she has someone else whom she is fvcking (hence why she won't bang you). There is no in between.
For me, the in between is the MAJORITY. It's hard for a girl to just have secks with someone who is going to leave the country in a couple days. Granted you could wet her vagina to a certain extent, but the good girls will hold back.
In order to have secks with her, you need to make her feel special. You need to make her feel like it's a life-long connection you will share with her. If you don't, she is going to know it's pretty much a one night stand. Take her out for a romantic night. Beta game (vulnerability game) works best fairly early in the relationship. If in the honeymoon stage, it's OK to lay down beta game because you are in the "do no wrong" stage. You've chatted her, been an alpha, told her how hard you're going to fvck her.....so now show her.
For me, the in between is the MAJORITY. It's hard for a girl to just have secks with someone who is going to leave the country in a couple days. Granted you could wet her vagina to a certain extent, but the good girls will hold back.
In order to have secks with her, you need to make her feel special. You need to make her feel like it's a life-long connection you will share with her. If you don't, she is going to know it's pretty much a one night stand. Take her out for a romantic night. Beta game (vulnerability game) works best fairly early in the relationship. If in the honeymoon stage, it's OK to lay down beta game because you are in the "do no wrong" stage. You've chatted her, been an alpha, told her how hard you're going to fvck her.....so now show her.
This situation is maddening so I'll let you guys weigh in on my next move. I tried again last nite and got only a quick makeout bc she was tired and has work today. I am leaving Weds morning so my time is running out quickly. Here are th options I am considering:
Ask her whats up and why she is holding out on me
Packing my things and getting a hotel for the next two nites just bc I hate getting jerked around
****ing try to keep my cool and try to **** her again until she gives in or until I leave
Im living in her house sleeping next to her rn...didnt cusdle ln and cold shouldered when she turned me down...wat to do?
Ask her whats up and why she is holding out on me
Packing my things and getting a hotel for the next two nites just bc I hate getting jerked around
****ing try to keep my cool and try to **** her again until she gives in or until I leave
Im living in her house sleeping next to her rn...didnt cusdle ln and cold shouldered when she turned me down...wat to do?
Shockwavedave
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Just keep trying and stop letting her holding out affect you. If you don't get any action, big F'ing deal. Go back home and plow some other chicks that are up for it
Yeah I know this deep down that I have to stay calm...you just don't understand we talked avout sex nonstop and how horny she was for me and I really had no way of seeing this coming. I really learned a lot from this experience but maintaining my cool is one of the most mentally challenging things I've had to do in awhile.
Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Iceberg
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A woman would never be too tired to f**k a guy she's interested in. Especially when this guy lives on the other side of the country and this is her rare opportunity to be with him.In10se said:
She's a woman. You'll have a hard time getting the truth. And even if you did ask her, it's not going to lead to sex.
Probably your best move. It's you taking the power back in this dynamic and saying that you wont put up with this woman trying to play you like a puppet.
At worst, you're alone and free to explore the city/town on your own. At best, she steps up her game.
Basically the same routine that has you traveling across the country for a woman who won't have sex with you. You've already been doing this...it has yielded no results.
Well the living arrangements are nice and she makes me food so its not a total loss. But ur a 100% right this her rare chance to be with me and she wont **** me...I hate that this boils down to power dynamics bc if she trusts me enough to be in her house alone then you figure she would be honest with me about whatever is holding her back. So ****ing ridiculous
Maybe its just me but i still have yet to understand how going across country to meet a total stranger that sent you nude pics is a good idea.
Perhaps im old fashioned?? LOL.
How can you be dumbfounded? What should dumbfound you is the fact this girl is having a guy fly out to her house from
across the country that i presume she never met?!??! I mean, who does that?
Perhaps im old fashioned?? LOL.
How can you be dumbfounded? What should dumbfound you is the fact this girl is having a guy fly out to her house from
across the country that i presume she never met?!??! I mean, who does that?
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st_99 said:
It's crazy; but he'll learn
Iceberg
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You could have gotten food in your own living arrangements. You didn't travel out there for food.In10se said:
You came there because you thought you had an opportunity to have sex with a mutually-interested partner. You dedicated your money to travel expenses and your time.
The invitation by the woman to stay at her place for a week implies sex. Nothing is guaranteed in life, but you had every right to assume that there would be sex.
And there isn't sex.
It is disrespectful and rude on her part. And it's a bit foolish on your part. But hey, we've all done foolish things for vag.
A logical assumption. But you're not dealing with a logical person. Again....a woman.
And as far as "ridiculous" goes...in my opinion, it's ridiculous to travel across the country and dedicate a week to someone you've never met before.
It'd be one thing if you pulled some kind of "Hey, I'll be in town on busines for a week. We should meet up." routine. At least then you'd have a hotel, and a reason for being there. Even if it's a lie, it's a good lie.
Right now your only reason for being there is f**king her. And she knows it. And apparently that's not turning her on.
