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I hate to admit this but today I got got.

Last week on a cross-country flight I met a pale, tiny little goth chick complete with pink hair streaks, hazel eyes and strange cartoonish bracelets. Red flags galore, but the kind of girl you want to bend like a pretzel while she screams daddy.

She was friendly as these artistic types usually are and had a nice chat for 3.5 long hours. Strong emotional connection but minimal kino due to the environment. One early kicker is at the end of the flight as I'm dozing off she asks for my number and tells me to hit her up soon. Not a bad start.

I do so 4 days later and we set up a date for Friday night (tonight). We talk twice before, one conversation initiated apiece, with some quick text banter about logistics and me telling her what to wear. She does enough of the pursuing and agrees to dress sexy and even says "I got my nails done for you today" and "promised to be there." Yet, deep in the depths I got the feeling that she was a Flaky McFlakester. You see where this is going...

After 2 days of quiet I text her today (date day) at 1:30 PM changing the date time by one hour. Nothing. It's a stone cold flake. This was a first for me as I had never had a woman go out of her way to number close me just to give the worst kind of flake - without even an excuse.. In glancing over my text game it wasn't that bad.

The moral of the story is to trust your gut even if it's going well. Assume the rejection and you won't be pissed off all day as I was. I was foolishly caught off guard by a demonic teenager.

What also makes this interesting is my gut is also telling me I may get a non-sequitir in the next 7 days because she didn't get a reaction. How would you handle that one fellas?
 

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BlueAlpha1 said:
I hate to admit this but today I got got.

Last week on a cross-country flight I met a pale, tiny little goth chick complete with pink hair streaks, hazel eyes and strange cartoonish bracelets. Red flags galore, but the kind of girl you want to bend like a pretzel while she screams daddy.

She was friendly as these artistic types usually are and had a nice chat for 3.5 long hours. Strong emotional connection but minimal kino due to the environment. One early kicker is at the end of the flight as I'm dozing off she asks for my number and tells me to hit her up soon. Not a bad start.

I do so 4 days later and we set up a date for Friday night (tonight). We talk twice before, one conversation initiated apiece, with some quick text banter about logistics and me telling her what to wear. She does enough of the pursuing and agrees to dress sexy and even says "I got my nails done for you today" and "promised to be there." Yet, deep in the depths I got the feeling that she was a Flaky McFlakester. You see where this is going...

After 2 days of quiet I text her today (date day) at 1:30 PM changing the date time by one hour. Nothing. It's a stone cold flake. This was a first for me as I had never had a woman go out of her way to number close me just to give the worst kind of flake - without even an excuse.. In glancing over my text game it wasn't that bad.

The moral of the story is to trust your gut even if it's going well. Assume the rejection and you won't be pissed off all day as I was. I was foolishly caught off guard by a demonic teenager.

What also makes this interesting is my gut is also telling me I may get a non-sequitir in the next 7 days because she didn't get a reaction. How would you handle that one fellas?
Mistakes in bold. Why are you initiating after setting a date?

You also weren't confident. You might have tried to act confident, but you weren't.

Don't contact her at all, if she contacts you down the line, give your address and tell her to come over, do NOT arrange another date under any circumstances.
 

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I agree with Inferno - except I am not sure I would WANT her knowing where I live.

Radio Silence until she reaches out. You only go if she pays.
Haha yes that could potentially be a concern in this case. Ah well to me I'd take that risk over potentially wasting my time going out some place.

I'd probably double book with a lesser plate and drop her if morticia adams shows up.
 
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AS PREDICTED, I received a non-sequitir two nights ago. It took 18 days though, much longer than I expected and pretty gutsy on her part.

HB: I'm so sorry, my phone got shut off.
Me: Who is this? (jerkboy game, I knew who it was)
HB: *Name*... (note ellipses)
Me: Oh hey whatsup
HB: Not much you?
Me: 420 (not really, inside joke from when we met)
HB: Haha nice

Then radio silence from me.

What rot! She's got some spaldings to wait 2.5 weeks to re-engage. Of course, I know there's going to be a fringe on here that tells me I was weak and beta for even replying at all, but I don't care what comes of this. If I'm curt instead of silent, the chances of getting laid go from zero to possible. That's always the goal. Not speaking another word though unless she asks to chill, and I'll be much more open ended the 2nd time.
 

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You just met a young twit that has the attention span of a goldfish when you're not directly in front of her. What did you seriously expect from a young goth chic in 2015 that is addicted to her iPhone? Not even worthy of making a post, man. Next her immediately, this is the epitome of low quality. Expect this in the future.
 
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VladPatton said:
You just met a young twit that has the attention span of a goldfish when you're not directly in front of her. What did you seriously expect from a young goth chic in 2015 that is addicted to her iPhone? Not even worthy of making a post, man. Next her immediately, this is the epitome of low quality. Expect this in the future.
You're spot on, but I'm sure you well know the straight up visceral feeling of seeing a certain type of girl you want to dominate until the cows come home.

The hazel eyes, artistic soul, and tiny frame (literally, I weigh close to 199 and this girl tops out at 99 soaking wet.) These kinds of women at least temporarily bring out the hunter gatherer in us, and no amount of game is going to save you from getting caught up in a spider's web once in a while. These women feed on a reaction and she didn't get much out of me. I feel my frame was good post-frame and in the re-engage text. No girl is used to hearing who is this?

That said, after 18 days I couldn't care less about this girl, but she did re-engage. We'll see what happens. I assume nothing until she texts me about a same day hangout.
 

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she flaked on you. This is strike 1 in my list, and I have a 2 strikes rule policy, but in this case it was so disrespectful that I may count it as 2 strikes already.

Now, she texted you to reengage after 18 days...nice. Well, she reinitiated contact which is 'good', but you should not expect her to ask you out. If you want to ask her out again go ahead but keep in mind that the chance of her flaking again is pretty high since she did not even give you an excuse the day she flaked. You know, she could have at least texted you some lame excuse, but no, she had to completely ignore you...

In my experience girls that act this disrespectful (agreing on a date and then flaking without any excuse and ignoring your texts) are a waste of time, but you never know...so maybe you could give her another chance if you're bored/desperate. lol.
 

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pyros said:
she flaked on you. This is strike 1 in my list, and I have a 2 strikes rule policy, but in this case it was so disrespectful that I may count it as 2 strikes already.

Now, she texted you to reengage after 18 days...nice. Well, she reinitiated contact which is 'good', but you should not expect her to ask you out. If you want to ask her out again go ahead but keep in mind that the chance of her flaking again is pretty high since she did not even give you an excuse the day she flaked. You know, she could have at least texted you some lame excuse, but no, she had to completely ignore you...

In my experience girls that act this disrespectful (agreing on a date and then flaking without any excuse and ignoring your texts) are a waste of time, but you never know...so maybe you could give her another chance if you're bored/desperate. lol.
I was just going to say this.

IF you do still have some interest

Look it's like this, if you want to "protect your ego" which is pathetic, then stay the course you are on, get nowhere, and you'll be posting about this chick again i guarentee you.

If however you are above ego (you should be)then you should be asking this girl when she's free to get together.

If she makes an excuse... "cool let me know when your schedule frees up"

You have nothing to lose in this situation to be quite honest, you are not handling this situation well at all, but that's just my take.

If you fancy getting laid or whatever, look at it like this, she's contacted you so you have a "free shot", throw the dart at the board, if it hits it hits, you get laid you get laid, if you don't whatever, it's all the same.

Strike while the iron is hot, she's got in contact because she wants you to initiate something, but if you just sit there wit your thumb up your ass she will move on and then you'll be saying she was playing games or whatever.
 

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If I may critique, and my opiniom may differ from the others.. I feel like you waited too long.
So you built rapport with her after a 3.5 long convo on a plane. That was essentialy a first date if you think about it.

And she number closed YOU.. In a situation like that I would have tried to bang her the next day while she was so interested. 4 days to call, than another few days for a date thats a week.
Whatever emotions you made her feel on the 3.5 hr flight after essentialy a week had plently of time to fade.

So in my opinion this was one situation where you should have struck while the iron was hot.
 

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cola said:
If I may critique, and my opiniom may differ from the others.. I feel like you waited too long.
So you built rapport with her after a 3.5 long convo on a plane. That was essentialy a first date if you think about it.

And she number closed YOU.. In a situation like that I would have tried to bang her the next day while she was so interested. 4 days to call, than another few days for a date thats a week.
Whatever emotions you made her feel on the 3.5 hr flight after essentialy a week had plently of time to fade.

So in my opinion this was one situation where you should have struck while the iron was hot.
Yup.

This guy's problems are in his own head, I can tell the way he thinks, it's the same way I used to think, he's essentially "faking it till he makes it" but he needs to keep a clear head and analyse his own performances a bit better, because he's making mistakes.
 

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cola said:
If I may critique, and my opiniom may differ from the others.. I feel like you waited too long.
So you built rapport with her after a 3.5 long convo on a plane. That was essentialy a first date if you think about it.

And she number closed YOU.. In a situation like that I would have tried to bang her the next day while she was so interested. 4 days to call, than another few days for a date thats a week.
Whatever emotions you made her feel on the 3.5 hr flight after essentialy a week had plently of time to fade.

So in my opinion this was one situation where you should have struck while the iron was hot.
Yup.

This guy's problems are in his own head, I can tell the way he thinks, it's the same way I used to think, he's essentially "faking it till he makes it", which is great, but he needs to keep a clear head and analyse his own performances a bit better, because he's making mistakes, and he can learn things from this interaction even if it doesn't go anywhere past this point.
 

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Infern0 said:
If you fancy getting laid or whatever, look at it like this, she's contacted you so you have a "free shot", throw the dart at the board, if it hits it hits, you get laid you get laid, if you don't whatever, it's all the same.
Nah she just contacted him because she was curios and also seeking validation. Shouldn't have replied to her at all. Just look how the interaction went dull quickly.
 

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Nah she just contacted him because she was curios and also seeking validation. Shouldn't have replied to her at all. Just look how the interaction went dull quickly.
Because the conversation was boring as **** PLUS he played the who's this game.

Give it a rest with the "seeking validation", all girls do it which is why you cut to the point instead of. ..

Hi how are you

Good how are you

What are you doing

Not much what are you doing

Zzzzzzz.

Does "giving her validation" diminish him somehow? No. Get to the point with women ffs, this is basic principles I'm talking about.
 

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Does "giving her validation" diminish him somehow? No. Get to the point with women ffs, this is basic principles I'm talking about.
Did she contact him because she wanted a date and sex with him? No. She was just curious because he acted slightly differnet from other guys. He went total NC after she flaked. Most guys would ask for an explanation, ask for another time to meet, etc.


"WTF I flaked on him but he doesn't give a F, I thought that would crush his ego and make him chase me harder. I'm hot and he should be begging for a second time. Is he fvcking someone hotter? " Hamster whisperings...


I still believe he shouldn't have replied and let the unstable hoe die of curiosity.


@BlueAlpha: Don't expect her to contact you again. The waiting game is bad for your game and mental health. Assume she is busy getting TriplePenetrated by multiple Ogres in a dark Gothic dungeon, lol. That should explain her unstable, fickle behaviour.
 

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Lets all think....
When we landed ons, instadates, free food and cash, or any other time we got what we seeked for was because we acted. I think inferno anf suspens might be right.

That flight was a date ish experience, she was down carnally. Shouldnt have waited for her to talk to her friends and have her jelous friend talk her out of it.

All our hookups happened fast. After that its just relationshipy sex. Good still, but not that slam dunk after the steal type of feeling we all get.
 
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Smart or not (and I appreciate all the opinions) I hit her up this afternoon with an open ended gesture. No response all day.

Deleting her number for the second time. No doubt she'll hit me up again, but I know better this time. It's becoming obvious I'll be avoiding disaster with this one.

No skin off my back.
 

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Smart or not (and I appreciate all the opinions) I hit her up this afternoon with an open ended gesture. No response all day.

Deleting her number for the second time. No doubt she'll hit me up again, but I know better this time. It's becoming obvious I'll be avoiding disaster with this one.

No skin off my back.
best play, she might text back it's not even been a day but if not you left it out. Better to know than wonder what if, trust me
 
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Infern0 said:
best play, she might text back it's not even been a day but if not you left it out. Better to know than wonder what if, trust me
But like someone else said, a 19 year old with her iPhone attached as a third arm taking days to respond?

Not buying it. She's lost all plausible deniability. Will probably ignore it but may offer her some advice that some guys are onto this kind of garbage.
 

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But like someone else said, a 19 year old with her iPhone attached as a third arm taking days to respond?

Not buying it. She's lost all plausible deniability. Will probably ignore it but may offer her some advice that some guys are onto this kind of garbage.
No need to contact her at all my friend, at the end of the day you did the right thing extending the offer, that's it your moving on up now. Any further contact from this point is where you start to lose points and look bitter.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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