Don't Use ****y & Funny Until You're Ready!!

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OK well as this is my first post perhaps I had better clear some things up.

Yes I have been looking at this site for a while.

Yes I have read the DJ Bible.

Yes this is my first post.

Yes I am posting a tip.

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OK so now some of you are scratching your heads and looking puzzled, so please let me explain.

I have been reading the stuff on this site for quite a time now, and basically I'm getting addicted to it. I mean some of the stuff on here is PURE GOLD. So naturally I'm always looking for ways to improve my game, etc etc..

The one issue I noticed cropping up most of all on here, or any dating expert site, whether its David D'angelo/Swingcat/whatever, is ****y & Funny. Everywhere I looked it was there. C&F,C&F,C&F. 'Be ****y & Funny'. 'We all know that ****y & Funny=Wet Panties'. And so on and so on.

So that was the one thing that really stuck out to me in a powerful way and appeared to be one of THE most vital tools in a DJs arsenal. But! This is a tip, right?

So.. what's my point? Well, this is what I have learned about C&F. And that is, if your are a newbie/RAFC/AFC/whatever... DON'T USE ****Y & FUNNY UNTIL YOU ARE READY!!

What do I mean? Well... let's just say I've noticed that you need to have reached a certain 'level' of confidence/self assurance etc in order to successfully apply C&F. Because if you don't believe 100% that you are the s*** (and thus have every right to be ****y) then you won't pull it off very well at all!

Believe me, I'm speaking from experience. For example the other day I was at work, talking to this woman at the coffee machine (bit older, but we still kind of flirt ;) ) and she was pouring a drink. I thought, aha I spy an opportunity for some C&F.

I made some comment thanking her for pouring me a drink and what else was she prepared to do for me (or something to that effect). OK, a bit corny perhaps, but a true DJ could surely have pulled it off with ease.

The problem was I wasn't feeling 100% confident at the time (I rarely do - 100% anyway) and the way I delivered it was... poor. I went into full-blown chump mode and instead of being ****y & Funny, it came out more like Apologetic & Sorry.

I has having a bad day (please understand I am a RAFC!!) and a combination of low confidence, a hangover and tiredness resulted in a very unconvincing version of C&F. One where rather then making her giggle and dampening her panties I was practically bowing down and begging her for sympathy. It came out neither ****y or funny.

The response was an uneasy one to say the least. When I said 'thanks for the drink'. She simply said '....or not!' and walked off in a semi-confused, semi-offended state (I even did the dreaded 'girly giggle' at the end as if to say 'please laugh with me, I tried to be funny and failed')

Another time I was on the dancefloor fooling around with this female and thought, its time to be ****y. How wrong I was. Because I was not 100% ready to be C&F at the time due to being a 'DJ-in-progress' it came out wrong, and I was kind of sounding like I was stubbornly demanding her to do stuff. Naturally she was offended, and didnt hang around for much longer. :mad:

So what I am saying is during the transition from AFC to DJ you cannot expect to be very good at C&F right away (unless you are a natural) without a lot of trial and error involved. Even though dating gurus everywhere cannot stress the importance of C&F enough, you must be ready first.

First of all you must build up your confidence. I mean most of the time these days I am pretty confident in myself but since I am a RAFC, just like women my confidence flakes from time to time.

So! Take whatever advice you can gleam from this site and other places about improving your confidence. Personally I have since been building myself up, dressing better, eating better, trying to focus on only the positive things in life and all the rest of it. It helps a lot, in all areas.

Ever noticed that when you feel 100% on top of your game you can effortlessly make people laugh without even trying? Well this is because you are feeling totally confident and self-assured, the essence of C&F (I guess why it is so attractive to women). It is not as easy when you don't feel so great.

So don't try to be C&F until you feel this confident on a regular basis. If you dont, and try to be C&F you will more than likely FAIL, leading to self-doubt and discouragement. However if you wait until you feel better about yourself, you will surely have more success, leading to greater confidence, more opportunities to try C&F etc. You must crawl before you can run.

Hope this helps someone in some way and I also hope no-one's posted this tip already.

:)
 

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well no i did not read your whole post, but i must you are somewhat right.

you need to say it iin a oking way, and if you are nervous you can not do that, so you do need confidence for it, but you also need to be abale to do it jokingly because confidence does not guarntee this.

I do have 1 other comment to make, practice makes perfect, so you will mess up at first, but if you practice you will eventualy get back, so you are right in thinking that you will not do it well at first.

But i think that it will be good to still do it, for practice, say, on girls you are not intrested in for example could be best and this is how you improve quickly!
 

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I have to respectfully disagree, if you wait until you are ready you will spend your whole life waiting.

Trying and failing is part of any learning process. I have had some ****y and funny not go over well and I had to learn how to blow it off. Part of gaining confidence with using any method has to do with actually using it and realizing that if it goes wrong you will survive.

The people that aren't afraid of failure will always acheive more quicker than those who are.
 

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i agreed with ur post " PalmerTheCharmer "
 

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no, although what he is saying is irhgt, he is wrong to think you should not do it till latter. Because you need to learn. so imagine you need to learn to drive a car, you can not take lessons (because lessons would be the equivilent of getting a coach on speach and C&F) well does that mean you will never do it, will you watch over people drive to try and get the hang of it, you know what you would a couple of times, but you would not do this for months on end, you would just get in the car, and take it slowly at first then take it further.

well do the same with C&F do it straight away just take it slowly at first and as soon as you are ready keep taking it further.
 

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so what ur trying to say is that failing is part of the process. in other words if u dont fail u dont succed.. i agree
 

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I agree with what you guys are saying about the trial-and-error method of messing it up at first and then learning from your mistakes. But I feel that ****y & Funny is a state of mind, something you can't really practice well until you have the right mindset.

For me, trying to be C&F is not easy because I am not a natural at it and it is (or was) not really part of my personality. I feel you can only be '****y' if you genuinely are feeling ****y. To do that you must first feel as though you are truly something (not arrogance, but extreme self-assurance).

You can't be C&F without first having something to be ****y about. So I believe it's necessary to first improve yourself to the standard where you have every right to be ****y. Then you can start practising and perfecting it.
 

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i agreed "PalmerTheCharmer "
 

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Originally posted by PalmerTheCharmer
I agree with what you guys are saying about the trial-and-error method of messing it up at first and then learning from your mistakes. But I feel that ****y & Funny is a state of mind, something you can't really practice well until you have the right mindset.

For me, trying to be C&F is not easy because I am not a natural at it and it is (or was) not really part of my personality. I feel you can only be '****y' if you genuinely are feeling ****y. To do that you must first feel as though you are truly something (not arrogance, but extreme self-assurance).

You can't be C&F without first having something to be ****y about. So I believe it's necessary to first improve yourself to the standard where you have every right to be ****y. Then you can start practising and perfecting it.
although its not so easy to learn if you are not natrual, you also need to practice delivering it, and thats the practice you need to get.

one other thing thou, i see myself as natrualy funny, but 4 or os years ago when i was in bad shape few freinds and bullied, i was not funny because my insecurity supresed it.
 

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i feel that you have to be c&f in order to pull it off. some people have it and some dont

IMO

thank god I'm an arrogant, ****y and funny guy

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some guys are naturally ****y and funny but they get nervous around chicks and don't use it because they worry too much about offending the girl
 

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I would disagree completely. The essence of ****y and funny is a complete indifference to what the girl thinks. The best way to develop this is to have it fall flat and see that life goes on. Some will respond, others will get offended. The attitude you need is you are just having fun and teasing a girl. Don't think-I want to impress this girl therefore must deploy C&F. That is the sort of attitude that will cause you to fail and become nervous.
 

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For a new guy, the most important thing is to master the right attitude that will lead to being "****y and funny" with chicks.

How do you achieve such an attitude?

Here are some key ideas to keep in your mind when you deal with women:

1) Do not be intimidated by ANY WOMAN, no matter how hot she is or how tough she seems. Like my father told me, you are a MAN and you should NEVER be scared of a woman.

2) Do not think or feel like you have to do something special to get some chick to like you. This is the mentality that causes guys to jump out of planes and stupid sh*t like that just to impress some bird-head chick.

3) Do not try to entertain a chick (see #2 above). If the b*tch wants entertainment, tell her to go rent a movie.

4) NEVER be afraid to speak your mind and express yourself.

5) NEVER worry about what she thinks about you (see #4 above)

6) Look for little funny things to f*ck with her about or make up a scenario. For example, if she told you she went out the night before and got drunk and threw up, this is what you could say.

"So you threw up last night. I bet your breath smelled like hot garbage in the summertime. I'm sure you looked pretty cute with your lunch all over your dress. Damn girl, you gotta stop trying to drink with the big boys. I'm going to take you drinking with me so I can teach you how to control your sh*t. Don't worry, Daddy will take good care of you. But for now, make sure you brush your teeth again, I think I see a piece of broccholi from yesterday in between your front teeth."

That is ****y and funny.

Now, the most important thing to note from the example I just gave you is NOT what I said, but the attitude behind it.

Once you get the attitude right, the words will come automatically without you beating yourself up trying to think of something cool or funny to say.

Do ya feel me?

Then get out there and get it poppin.
 

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"It's not as important to get it RIGHT, as it is to get it STARTED." - Mike Litman.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Don't USE "****y & Funny" at ALL. It's not a goddamn tool you pick up and use like a hammer or screwdriver. It's part of who you are.

****Y comes from holding yourself in higher esteem than women. This comes from self-improvement and an acknowledgement of your worth to the many women looking for a "good man", as well as recognizing that your own desires aren't as cataclysmically important as you think they are.

FUNNY comes from having a sense of humor. This develops as you improve your overall social skills.

NEITHER comes from your desperate desire to find a woman to have sex with, and if you try to implement it that way, she WILL see through it. Unless you're REALLY good at faking it...and that requires a lot of work.
 

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Originally posted by hacx
so what ur trying to say is that failing is part of the process. in other words if u dont fail u dont succed.. i agree
True.

I read about C&F two years back.

When looked back to my life, saw that when I had success, I actually was in the C&F mindset.

So, first time I tried scripted C&F, loose one of the hottest babes in this 200.000 town. I busted her interest by wrongly utilizing C&F...

What happened, did I say, I am not ready?

NOPE!

I learned from the mistake(s)..

You fail, and if you learn, you succeed the next time.

And so it was.

And so it has been.



The few times you will fail in the beginning,

Will be the basis of your victory!
 

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I basically agree with what was said above - there's no success without failure (unless you WATCH your "natural" friends how THEY do it for very long time). I screwed up once and I exactly new why - because I wasn't saying it jokingly enough. It was obvious, but I would never find out without actually TRYING it. I have much to learn, but I think I now totally get the C&F stuff now.
 

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i agree with disciple about attitude. ##### and funny is good, but the way you deliver it is most important.
 
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