Don Juan Discussion Forum's Fvcking Rats

[R19]

In the course of reading 'Got an escort now Im developing feelings and I think she does also.' on the Mature Forum, I realize good ole nerdboy10000 is taking threads/posters on here and making YouTube commentary videos about them.

What a fvcking rat. What do you think?

 

[katatonia]

I didn't really watch his videos but I assume he's just some dumb asian trying to sell some PUA bullsh1t. His videos only have like <500 views each so I don't really care but yeah he's a fvcking fagg0t if he's actually repeating posts from here and passing it off as his own.

 

[Just a Shot Away]

Agreed. I'm appalled that he hasn't been banned yet. His advice for girls is "be good looking, since game doesn't work." His advice for gaining muscle is "don't deadlift."

What a clown.

 

[2-D]

"be good looking, since game doesn't work."

Is he kidding? For women he should say:

"Wear tiny skirts, tights and sexy boots/straight up offer sex, just make sure you don't look HIDEOUS or OBESE."

Job done. That's all women need to get sex.

 

[Warrior74]

He's promoting his products. He's not the first to do it or the last. Some people use posts from here and don't even post here. They just use this place as a joke or as a big tale of caution. I know him from other forums and he's not a bad dude, he's come a long way in his personal game and hes a business man.

Before you guys get all Ho-motional remember, this is a PUBLIC message board. Everything you write here is indexed in google and available for the whole world to see. You own no rights to anything you post here. So getting mad about that is like getting mad that other people are checking books out of the library you go to and writing reviews about them to sell their own products.

 

[Iceberg]

He's promoting his products. He's not the first to do it or the last. Some people use posts from here and don't even post here. They just use this place as a joke or as a big tale of caution. I know him from other forums and he's not a bad dude, he's come a long way in his personal game and hes a business man.

He obviously hasn't come that long of a way. He can't even admit that these are his products that he's promoting. I thought it was a "friend" of his...

Aside from that, it's his right to say "Hey, I made a site. You guys should check it out." Him making a new video every other day, and posting it here is the very definition of spamming. It's like, yeah you have a site...I get it...chill.

 

[Warrior74]

He obviously hasn't come that long of a way. He can't even admit that these are his products that he's promoting. I thought it was a "friend" of his...

Aside from that, it's his right to say "Hey, I made a site. You guys should check it out." Him making a new video every other day, and posting it here is the very definition of spamming. It's like, yeah you have a site...I get it...chill.

True. I'm on some internet marketing forums and one of the things they teach is to become a part of the community, don't actively spam the boards with your link, just throw it in your sig and post like a normal person. Then your rep speaks for you and people will click your link if they like what you say. Then if you post something like a video you have the acceptance as a member of the community.

And then there's another way to do it as well. But that's not so nice.

 

[bukowski_merit]

He's promoting his products. He's not the first to do it or the last. Some people use posts from here and don't even post here. They just use this place as a joke or as a big tale of caution. I know him from other forums and he's not a bad dude, he's come a long way in his personal game and hes a business man.

Before you guys get all Ho-motional remember, this is a PUBLIC message board. Everything you write here is indexed in google and available for the whole world to see. You own no rights to anything you post here. So getting mad about that is like getting mad that other people are checking books out of the library you go to and writing reviews about them to sell their own products.

He's using black hat methods of promoting a product; black hat by in large is what scam artist and scum do. If you want to endorse a piece of sh!t like him - then that says a lot about you. It's unethical business. PERIOD!

And what he is doing IS spamming.

I don't even care so much about him; it's that the mods on here rarely do their job. Which makes this site an easy target for people like him (and people selling vitamins, and supplements, and fitness information.) You could use a bot on this site - and spam the hell out of it and i'd bet it'd be 2-3 days before a mod caught on.


You can actually buy lists of forums that have high traffic and are poorly moderated for spam(people that spam find these useful).... i can almost guarantee that this site is on a few of them.

 

[jonwon]

The way I see it, posters come to Sosauve to get advice from Sosauve, if they wanted advice via youtube, they would request it.

Similier tactics where used by playersupreme, but not to this level. I feel at least player stuck to topics that didn't generate ridicule to the Author, where has in this instance, it seems more of an excercise in ridicule rather then offer advice.

The point I am trying to make, is simply; the author of the topic was not pleased his post was dragged out to youtube, fair enough it is a public forum, but taking someones post and whacking it onto youtube for the purpose of making a statement without the consent of the author was unwarranted.

But on the other hand the topic question was one that generated a WTF moment; a post that anyone could easily jump on and share around.

I feel nerdboy should at least tone it down a little and show some common sense to post's of a delicate nature. If the topic is truly cringe worthy, I am sure they have been filtered out to more places then youtube, but peeing off the community here by posting threads on youtube for public dismantalling, instead of the community dismantalling has the potential to scare new posters away, if like the author of that thread, they dont want youtube opinion, but are happy with Sosauve input. That to me is something this forum will address (not being a mod), because any harm to the traffic here would be considered a problem, I would imagine.

Edit - also this is a community for guys who need help and advice, not a spring board for PUA money making schemes, i.e if they are going to expose themselves in this manner, they should at least handle topics where by the Author gains some benifit, and in this instance, it's just generating problems. Hence this topic.

 

[mrRuckus]

He's using black hat methods of promoting a product; black hat by in large is what scam artist and scum do. If you want to endorse a piece of sh!t like him - then that says a lot about you. It's unethical business. PERIOD!

How is it any worse than all the misleading and outright lies told on television commercials? I'm pretty sure i'm not going to be crawled all over by women for using Axe body spray.

A marketing major is basically an education in lying and preying on other's fears and insecurities. Let's not pretend that other's methods are so noble.

 

[bukowski_merit]

How is it any worse than all the misleading and outright lies told on television commercials? I'm pretty sure i'm not going to be crawled all over by women for using Axe body spray.

No healthy mind is going to believe that they will get crawled with women if they use axe body spray. Or be able to jump like Jordan just from wearing his shoes. Or be able to leap 20 feet in the air to catch a foul ball, etc. Most modern commercials are just sensationalism, which should be recognized by any modern person.

There are plenty of commercials that do tell outright lies though - they are the late night infomercials and such, which again - not surprisingly use a lot of black hat methods to market (making a claim while simultaneously displaying a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen that says the claim has not been proven, etc.)

A marketing major is basically an education in lying and preying on other's fears and insecurities. Let's not pretend that other's methods are so noble.

I'm not pretending that any method of marketing or sales is noble (although there are some revolutionary marketers who believe in telling nothing but the truth and selling products that have a truth). But black hat is for scum and poor people.... NOT people running legit businesses... If this guy has made such a great life for himself - why the fvck can't he afford to properly market his products? If he's living such the good life - he should be able to afford legit advertising.

 

[CaptainJ]

No healthy mind is going to believe that they will get crawled with women if they use axe body spray. Or be able to jump like Jordan just from wearing his shoes. Or be able to leap 20 feet in the air to catch a foul ball, etc. Most modern commercials are just sensationalism, which should be recognized by any modern person.

yes it's logical to think that no one would believe the crap in adverts, but then most people are not logical. There's a reason why axe is EXTREMELY popular and successful, especially in the teenage boy population: It's because they believe the ads that Axe will get them girls. Similarily, if you bombard people enough with images and vids of NEW ULTRA SPRINGY SNEAKS, then they will believe that the shoes are actually able to make them jump higher. Ofcourse most people would deny this if you asked them, thinking they are "above" social influence, but this all works subconsciously, and humans are incredibly suggestible and influenced by society. Adverts are a subtle, yet hugely effective tool.

 

[thedude4242]

here is one for my asian brothers. how about the way he talks. hey says "here is a nutter way"

 

[Drum&Bass]

i can think of a few posters that use this forum to promote and expand there business.

Health and Fitness section has posters like that. Guys that use to post and mysteriously disappeared. I can think of one particular poster who blatantly piggy backs the ideas of other respected coaches and just spits out his so/so ideas to forum members, yet he is highly respected in H&F section.

I also find it kind of funny that some of the most highly respected posters in H&F are the ones that are all screwed up and injured.

Same thing in the Mature Man Forum..I can think of a ton of posters that admit to having major social/personality issues and have constantly made public apologies for being wrong about things...yet forum members give praise to these guys for their advice.

I've seen nerdboy10000's posts and vids and Im still trying to figure out what the big deal is ?? the guy makes posts that are meant to help NOT harm.

and in terms of marketing...I dont see anything wrong with using a forum to develop a rep. Dave Tate, Joe Defranco, Styles, Mystery etc..have all done it but no one is bashing them about it.

 

[bukowski_merit]

I've seen nerdboy10000's posts and vids and Im still trying to figure out what the big deal is ?? the guy makes posts that are meant to help NOT harm.

and in terms of marketing...I dont see anything wrong with using a forum to develop a rep. Dave Tate, Joe Defranco, Styles, Mystery etc..have all done it but no one is bashing them about it.

To part 1 of what you said: Because he's SPAMMING the boards. If he posted 1 tip a week in the "tips" section (which is where his videos belong) then i don't think 1 person would care. But he's constantly posting videos on the main boards (to get more traffic/indexed for SEO) and upping his own posts with fake aliases (to up his traffic). I came on this board about 6 days ago and on the Don Juan Discussion forum. About 1/5 of the posts on the front page were from muscle asian guy. Either new posts he had posted, or old posts he was upping with aliases. You don't see the big deal in that? Then perhaps we should ALL do it. In fact - if he doesn't get shut down - i'll begin promoting my own businesses in the same way on here. Let's just turn DJ Discussion forum into one big promote fest.

To Part 2: There's a huge difference. Most of those guys got famous off of actually addressing what people were asking over at fast.seduction. You know... People would have questions and ask them and then the guys would post relevant opinions and address the concern. Then at the bottom of the post - they'd have a link to their site (many guys on here do this). But, they weren't acting like they were someone else hyping up their product so that they'd look more legit.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

and in terms of marketing...I dont see anything wrong with using a forum to develop a rep. Dave Tate, Joe Defranco, Styles, Mystery etc..have all done it but no one is bashing them about it.

Did Dave Tate, Mystery, Joe Defranco, etc post daily links to videos and then walk away or did they actually contribute to the discussions and occasionally guide people to their sites/products?

Big difference, right?

 

[ThunderMaverick]

I mean if the points are good then I don't see why a person's site shouldn't be advertised. If he's a good contributor to the community it seems okay as well. However, it seems this site has enough free knowledge and enough experienced men to help fresh AFCs - so the fact that people are trying to get us to PAY for it (or pay extra attention to them when we KNOW they're not as solid as they say they are) would seem extremely unappealing,

Johnny Soporno is a really cool guy that has shared a lot his knowledge here at the forum while also trying to sell us into his seminars. I respect the guy for wanting to have people pay for in person lectures because he's proven that he's the real deal (albeit with strippers and pornstars, but hey, he's got pu$$y in his pocket. He's got genuine confidence.) and has a passion for helping out the less fortunate betas. However, I don't think you could put a price on life changing wisdom that should be available to everyone so...I wouldn't pay for it. I wouldn't suggest anyone else pay for it either....unless you're totally at rock bottom.

When Nerdboy addressed Aix in his youtube most of what he said was an attack on a fellow board member with no constructive input to help the guy. To paraphrase, he said that he wouldn't give him advice because Aix doesn't deserve it. It wasn't so much of him willingly withholding advice from a fellow sosuave poster that bugged me (nerdboy's opinions are kinda sketch in my view, and after this incident they don't hold much value.) it was him proselytizing like he was a better man coming from a better place. He actually talked down to the guy instead of actually helping, like a brother in arms should. (that's the way I see it, anyways)

We don't come her to make fools out of each other. We don't come here to kick a man while he's down. That should be a general rule around here when people first sign up to this site. I don't have much respect for what Nerdboy did.

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

Is our forum to be associated with scammers on youtube?

Why don't we start selling indonesian cell phones in broken english while we're at it?

Banish this troll immediately.