Does anyone else experience inconsistent interest from women?

[FlexpertHamilton]

For example, I'll go on dates where I don't bring my "A game" so to speak, make mistakes, and yet the girl will be fawning over me...then I go on a similar date with a girl of similar SMV and seemingly do everything right but it goes ****ing nowhere and I never talk to her again. And in general, the attention I get from women when I'm out and about in general is highly inconsistent as well and seems to have little correlation with my internal state as "PUA" types would have you believe.

The question of why women are so inconsistent probably doesn't even has an answer beyond "just cuz". We are always sitting around trying to analyze game and all the things we do right and wrong, but it's not always in our control, like anything else in life, a lot of it is simply luck and being in the right place in the right time. It's still a numbers game at the end of the day, and women are incredibly fickle. That's why you always need to be meeting new ones instead of settling for subpar options.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

A woman's menstrual cycle plays a much bigger role in her finding things attractive in a man than most men know. When she is ovulating, she is much more likely to display attention to a male than she would have normally - her limbic system is telling her to fertilize that egg.

This is part of what makes women seem fickle. Obviously, there are other factors at play as well, but knowing a woman's cycle is something every man could benefit from.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Human behavior is not 1-+1=2. There is always a variable in the equation. We can quantify & control some factors in the equation (fitness, hygiene,game…). Call these the Constants. But ultimately, the variable, of which we have no control, determines the final value on the right side of the equation.

 

[Steno]

Its most likely a combination of 2 things:

1. There's other men in the picture
2. Timing

I'm not sure if your in the same boat as me but for me its a lot more rare to interact with high interest women. Most of the time there's somewhat of a "pulling teeth" vibe to it where it feels like I'm having to do a lot of work. In those situations, even if it leads to something it just ends up feeling like the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

The problem is that most women are never really 100% single. They are usually in some sort of situationship and if they are "single" then they are seeing like 4-5 guys at a time so they can't invest properly into one person. I've figured out from context clues that a lot of the chicks who it feels "easier" with its mainly because you just happen to be interacting with them at the right time. Either they just got dumped or their in the early stages of getting ghosted by some other guy, those seem to be the only cases where they actually put in proper amounts of effort. I see no correlation with how attractive the girl is and how much interest/effort she shows, at least with me but let me know if this is not the case for anyone else.

So basically 99.99% of the time its not you, its her. There's not really anything you can do about it but take it as a red flag that the chick is probably not worth investing time/effort into because she has toxic dating habits and baggage.

 

[Smooth_texter]

For example, I'll go on dates where I don't bring my "A game" so to speak, make mistakes, and yet the girl will be fawning over me...then I go on a similar date with a girl of similar SMV and seemingly do everything right but it goes ****ing nowhere and I never talk to her again. And in general, the attention I get from women when I'm out and about in general is highly inconsistent as well and seems to have little correlation with my internal state as "PUA" types would have you believe.

The question of why women are so inconsistent probably doesn't even has an answer beyond "just cuz". We are always sitting around trying to analyze game and all the things we do right and wrong, but it's not always in our control, like anything else in life, a lot of it is simply luck and being in the right place in the right time. It's still a numbers game at the end of the day, and women are incredibly fickle. That's why you always need to be meeting new ones instead of settling for subpar options.

SMV is dynamic and matters more than game (like a lot more).

In your example, perhaps girl A had a dating pool of 6-es, and you were a 8/10, thus making her excited about you.

The second example is probably with a girl who has a dating pool where most are 8/10, thus her having lukewarm interest.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

SMV is dynamic and matters more than game (like a lot more).

In your example, perhaps girl A had a dating pool of 6-es, and you were a 8/10, thus making her excited about you.

The second example is probably with a girl who has a dating pool where most are 8/10, thus her having lukewarm interest.

The second girl was probably a legit 9 or close to it, and had some serious hoe implication stories eg boat parties, free lodging when travelling overseas, and god knows what else. The first girl was younger and still fairly attractive though. Who tf knows. This is just one example but it happens often, and SMV doesn't seem to have much of a correlation...in fact, if anything, I tend to do worse with less attractive women.

This gets into the area of what women think their own SMV is, as they tend to make it up in their heads to be whatever they want.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

A woman's menstrual cycle plays a much bigger role in her finding things attractive in a man than most men know. When she is ovulating, she is much more likely to display attention to a male than she would have normally - her limbic system is telling her to fertilize that egg.

This is part of what makes women seem fickle. Obviously, there are other factors at play as well, but knowing a woman's cycle is something every man could benefit from.

Also whether they're on BC or not. Oddly, almost every single women I've fvcked over the past few years was not on BC, or if they were it was a copper IUD.

I had a pretty nasty story with a girl who WAS on BC and in retrospect I think it ended very poorly because she thought I was a provider type which I am simply not.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

There was a time when I’d clown and omit (borderline lie) to get into a hot chicks knickers. Nowadays I don’t, I’ve gotten to the point where I tell it like it is, and borderline try to scare them away during courtship - weak hands need not apply.

Show them your dark side, see who is strong enough to stay. It’s fun.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

There was a time when I’d clown and omit (borderline lie) to get into a hot chicks knickers. Nowadays I don’t, I’ve gotten to the point where I tell it like it is, and borderline try to scare them away during courtship - weak hands need not apply.

Show them your dark side, see who is strong enough to stay. It’s fun.

I have started leaning that way more and more...

In general it's hyper attractive to a select number of women even if it's at the expense of turning off many others. The alternative it is to try to neuter your personality in an effort to appeal to more women, most of are NPCs who all think the same shvt they're told from our clown culture.

I still remember a while back I told some girl on a first date I'd never date a fat girl and after the date she said she didn't want to see me again because of my "disgusting comments about women"... I might just start saying shvt like that on every date now.

 

[The Duke]

I have started leaning that way more and more...

In general it's hyper attractive to a select number of women even if it's at the expense of turning off many others. The alternative it is to try to neuter your personality in an effort to appeal to more women, most of are NPCs who all think the same shvt they're told from our clown culture.

I still remember a while back I told some girl on a first date I'd never date a fat girl and after the date she said she didn't want to see me again because of my "disgusting comments about women"... I might just start saying shvt like that on every date now.

They could all stand to hear the message. If she can't understand why, then she doesn't understand men very well and that just makes things harder down the road.

I always let them know I've been with plenty of women and will only be serious with the best.

 

[SW15]

A woman's menstrual cycle plays a much bigger role in her finding things attractive in a man than most men know. When she is ovulating, she is much more likely to display attention to a male than she would have normally - her limbic system is telling her to fertilize that egg.

This is part of what makes women seem fickle. Obviously, there are other factors at play as well, but knowing a woman's cycle is something every man could benefit from.

This has the potential to be a really good point.

However, a good portion of women are on birth control at any time. Birth control stops ovulation.

 

[mbc0029]

I have started leaning that way more and more...

In general it's hyper attractive to a select number of women even if it's at the expense of turning off many others. The alternative it is to try to neuter your personality in an effort to appeal to more women, most of are NPCs who all think the same shvt they're told from our clown culture.

I still remember a while back I told some girl on a first date I'd never date a fat girl and after the date she said she didn't want to see me again because of my "disgusting comments about women"... I might just start saying shvt like that on every date now.

"I like girls who are in shape" seems like a good line. It implies you don't like fat girls without saying it. Looks play a huge role in a woman's SMV, and I think they know this instinctively, whether they admit it or not. And this is why they're so sensitive to anything regarding their looks.

If you're in shape, this line carries more weight (pun intended).

Next time I have a date, I'll use a version of that line.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

"I like girls who are in shape" seems like a good line.
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Next time I have a date, I'll use a version of that line.

The issue with this is that women are looking for any reason to decline you - LIKE ANYTHING - they have so much abundance they can. In their minds, by saying that, you're attacking the sacred womanhood. I've used the line, and when subsequently talking to a girl I'd matched with that was HWP (not ripped), she said she almost didn't talk to me because she thought I wanted an athlete.

Most women are dysmorphic, don't stack the odds against yourself.

 

[mbc0029]

The issue with this is that women are looking for any reason to decline you - LIKE ANYTHING - they have so much abundance they can. In their minds, by saying that, you're attacking the sacred womanhood. I've used the line, and when subsequently talking to a girl I'd matched with that was HWP (not ripped), she said she almost didn't talk to me because she thought I wanted an athlete.

Most women are dysmorphic, don't stack the odds against yourself.

I suppose that's not a first date topic.

Hypothetically, would you ever consider bringing it up if it ever progresses to "Where do we stand?" (LTR talk).

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

"I like girls who are in shape" seems like a good line. It implies you don't like fat girls without saying it. Looks play a huge role in a woman's SMV, and I think they know this instinctively, whether they admit it or not. And this is why they're so sensitive to anything regarding their looks.

If you're in shape, this line carries more weight (pun intended).

Next time I have a date, I'll use a version of that line.

Even better is to just say "I like women who are healthy weight". I don't like rail thin girls with their ribs popping out and likewise don't like fat girls and when I explain it that way, they agree. Straight up saying "i hate fat bvtches" will certainly turn off a lot of women because they probably have a fat friend or mother who you're indirectly putting down. But it's still funny, and some women aren't quite as sensitive and PC as you'd think. I absolutely love girls who have a darker sense of humor or can at least appreciate it.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I suppose that's not a first date topic.

Hypothetically, would you ever consider bringing it up if it ever progresses to "Where do we stand?" (LTR talk).

There would be no need to unless you wanted her to start working out or lose weight. In that case you just implement a healthy active lifestyle mode and take her with you to work out, do food prep with her etc. I’ve done this before and chicks love it.

 

[mbc0029]

Even better is to just say "I like women who are healthy weight". I don't like rail thin girls with their ribs popping out and likewise don't like fat girls and when I explain it that way, they agree. Straight up saying "i hate fat bvtches" will certainly turn off a lot of women because they probably have a fat friend or mother who you're indirectly putting down. But it's still funny, and some women aren't quite as sensitive and PC as you'd think. I absolutely love girls who have a darker sense of humor or can at least appreciate it.

Yeah. There's a lot of big women where I'm from. A lot of country-type girls are big.

I like the "Health" angle. I could probably create a line from that angle.

 

[mbc0029]

There would be no need to unless you wanted her to start working out or lose weight. In that case you just implement a healthy active lifestyle mode and take her with you to work out, do food prep with her etc. I’ve done this before and chicks love it.

I like the idea of a woman prepping food for me. It's like a "value-added" thing.

It seems like she would be trying to earn me.