Does all this seduction/pick up stuff work on all types of women?

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There are so many types of women out there. I wonder if all these DJ skills only work on certain types or do they work on all of them? Some girls seems to like geeky guys, like that hot girl portrayed on American Pie. Or Do all women desire alpha type males?

When I read Speed Seduction, one thing that cross my mind is, it seems like it would only work on hoes since the idea is to sleep with them fast. Or does it also work on "good" girls?
 

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The simple answer is no.

Some women just love the attention and they're more vulnerable to psychological games. Others are more sexually driven and go for looks, body and superficial qualities. Others are more focused on personality and connection. Some want power and status, and then there are those who are looking for mature, kind guys who'll make good husband material. Masculinity is attractive to some women, and others can't get enough of metrosexuals or even gay men.

I have a friend who is a complete contradiction to all this stuff. He's dating a really hot and wonderful girl and he's the biggest AFC I know. He even asks her outright "Do you still like me?" and buys her gifts etc. She has since told me she really loves him and feels lucky to be with him.

I spent years trying to control women's attraction to me, and came to the conclusion it's not possible. You can control who you are and be the best you can be and more women will find you attractive because of it, but you can't intentionally convince women to like you.

Afterall, if seduction techniques really worked on all women, PUAs would have a 100% success rate.
 

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Originally posted by Jariel
The simple answer is no.

Some women just love the attention and they're more vulnerable to psychological games. Others are more sexually driven and go for looks, body and superficial qualities. Others are more focused on personality and connection. Some want power and status, and then there are those who are looking for mature, kind guys who'll make good husband material. Masculinity is attractive to some women, and others can't get enough of metrosexuals or even gay men.

I have a friend who is a complete contradiction to all this stuff. He's dating a really hot and wonderful girl and he's the biggest AFC I know. He even asks her outright "Do you still like me?" and buys her gifts etc. She has since told me she really loves him and feels lucky to be with him.

I spent years trying to control women's attraction to me, and came to the conclusion it's not possible. You can control who you are and be the best you can be and more women will find you attractive because of it, but you can't intentionally convince women to like you.

Afterall, if seduction techniques really worked on all women, PUAs would have a 100% success rate.
Read into SS... 98% of this site covers the c&f david d. method or double your dating. Which is good if you're looking for a long term relationship. Women are
not attracted to looks or status they're attracted to emotions associated with the status, wealth or power. If you can make a woman feel (remember men are logical, women are emotional?) then you can play it to whatever degree you like. Learn to trigger certain "feelings" in a person through use of language and gestures and things fall into place a LOT more easily.
 

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Originally posted by syncmaster
Read into SS... 98% of this site covers the c&f david d. method or double your dating. Which is good if you're looking for a long term relationship. Women are
not attracted to looks or status they're attracted to emotions associated with the status, wealth or power. If you can make a woman feel (remember men are logical, women are emotional?) then you can play it to whatever degree you like. Learn to trigger certain "feelings" in a person through use of language and gestures and things fall into place a LOT more easily.
I've had my issues with SS! Just the mention of it and that little weasel Ross Jeffies makes my blood boil. Sorry, I just had some very bad experiences when trying it out. It's great in theory, but in practice (well, my own experience anyway) it was a disaster.

Although I do agree with the concept of triggering feelings, but I believe this is something that happens naturally when people connect.
 

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Isn't ross the one who crawled on the floor sniffing carmen electra's butt at an LA party? We have two major options:

- Self Improvement (body, mind, and soul)

- Growing balls and approaching all the pretty women we see.


An AFC with the balls to go for what he wants will bed more women than some DJ wannabe who spends all his days on here. The game is learned in the streets, stop waiting on the next great epic pook post, play the game.
 

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Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
Isn't ross the one who crawled on the floor sniffing carmen electra's butt at an LA party?
HAHAHAH Indeed it was - according to the book. Still doesnt' change the fact that it works b/c i've done it on my ex. The whole "warmth building thing"
 

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I wonder if all these DJ skills only work on certain types or do they work on all of them?

>> I don't think it will work on all of them, no. Here's my short list of the ones it won't work on:

1) famous ones, and/or ones who are MILES out of your "weight class" (so to speak) looks-wise. Regardless of almost anything you say, unless you're filthy rich, these ultra-hot chicks are going to keep looking for the BBD (the Bigger Better Deal). That's my personal belief at least. I think we have to "punch our weight", so to speak. (Some may disagree on this, I realize).

2) badly emotionally-damaged / man-hater type of chicks. They're probably still hung up on whatever DJ or pimp (or what-have-you) F'd them up so bad in the first place. They have barricades around their hearts and will not let another man near them. Alot of times your strippers, porn stars, etc., girls that look hot , but in a sl^tty kind of way, will fall into this category. Not ALL, but alot of times.

3) happily-married and/or happily- "seriously involved" ones. They simply have no desire to cheat. You can run whatever kind of routine you want on them. The most they'll do is politely listen, and possibly at most give you a fake # just to get you to leave. They're getting what they need from their man, emotionally and physically, and Ross Jeffries himself could run a rap on them and they won't bite. These are good women, by the way, and they're the kind you want to land, ultimately.

4) gay ones. Why? Obviously, they desire to have a couple of bearded clams for lunch everyday as much as we do.

5) religiously-committed ones. Penguins. That's right. Nuns. I've tried it and have gotten nowhere whatsoever. They're ice queens. Totally devoted to some long-deceased Jewish preacher. Save your game.

If you can think of any others who are probably totally impervious to your game, feel free to add them on.

~Dino :cool:
 

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Well we are all aware that you think your a pop star or something like that. ha ha ha if you only go on looks you are gonna miss a lot of intresting people along the way that could have helped you reach your prince charming blueangel. Its kind of ironic that you spend so much time being some kind of stereotypical bimbo from a movie here, ratherthan going out with your "popular" friends...

I gotta say babe I think most of us have more of a life than you do ;)... Anyway go read your gossip magazines and fantasise about the lifestyle you will never have.

Love

Amethyst
 

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Originally posted by blueangel83
No ugly guy can ever seduce me. I tend to give them dirty looks.
I like that... maybe if he's horribly disfigured... but in the right setting, anyone can be seduced.
 

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Not all women. You aren't going to pull a HB on her honeymoon in a happy marriage, or a total ice queen religious girl, or maybe even a girl who you just aren't her type. Even guys like Mystery only cite a success rate of 1 in 3 or 4 with women.

Almost all women at some point in their lives are suceptible to this, but it does matter a ton which point in thier life you make your sarge at.
 

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Don't forget the women who just don't like you. The reasons are their own; maybe they don't like your race, your height, your eyes, your voice, your personality, etc.

If any guy can prove to me they can score with 100% of women they see, I'll give them head.
 

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Yes, I believe it works on all types of women. Just because it doesn't work for me, or you, doesn't mean it isn't going to work for the next person. True seduction is getting a women to do something she told herself that she was never going to do and strongly knows that it isn't right. Whatever her type maybe and what she goes on, if she finds this person attractive the person then using the skills and where there level of DJing is determines alot. If you have true mastery at DJing and know whats going on when you walk into a sisuation with a women and your able to size it up and know what you want, what your willing to accept & not accept, you can do anything, because you know whats going on better then she does. It's all about "how" you use and execute the techniques. This means having the real power of seduction, charm, confidence, etc...Yes, it may be very hard to do, but it can be done.
 

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Originally posted by Sargeholic
Not all women. You aren't going to pull a HB on her honeymoon in a happy marriage, or a total ice queen religious girl, or maybe even a girl who you just aren't her type. Even guys like Mystery only cite a success rate of 1 in 3 or 4 with women.

Almost all women at some point in their lives are suceptible to this, but it does matter a ton which point in thier life you make your sarge at.
What are you talking about? Women are objects! :crackup: JK
 

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It works on WOMEN.

Some 'things' that look like women are NOT women. I'll say that again, not every creature out there will be the woman you want, no matter how hot she is. And I have a real adversity to pining over women, though hot, are useless, have bad attitudes, or do not fit me.

Why would you want something or someone that doesn't want you? Why would you want someone or something that at least isn't open to the idea of meeting you or chatting with you?

It's more the WAY of the DJ than the moment of the DJ. And every guy will have a different way. Depending on your age, point in life, etc, you may want quick flings, you may want ONS's, or you may want girls at your disposal.

It's not a question of 'working' on all women or not. More it's that, all women want men, men, not boys. All MEN work on WOMEN. Any woman can be had by any man. That's not hard.

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To me, there's a NATURAL game or intention out there. As an example...

Say based on who you are right now, how you are, what you look like, personality, etc, there's about 5,000 girls who'd immediately like you (it's probably more but just for #'s sake). They're spread across the country. Deep down, you fit everything they want. All it takes is walking up and talking to them. A relationship with them would be 50/50 or better and she'd be into you.

Most guys avoid this "natural market" because they're so afraid to approach, or don't know their own value or have limiting beliefs, whatever.

Now, you go out and REALLY take charge of your life. You're going to SEE what life offers and seize opportunity. You'll max out yourself in everyway, and but optimizing your abilities and your own character, you can engage 20,000 women who would like you 50/50 or better. Meaning they'd carry half the relationship just like you. No AFC parlor tricks. Just natural interest.

It works like that, because most girls have some NATURAL TYPES they like, based on physical attributes and pieces of character, too.

Any girl can name a style or type of guy they like, what triggers it. And by working on yourself, your game, you move into categories. So if you gain muscle, now you're like by all girls who dig guys with muscle. It narrows down a bit, because maybe you're a businessman, and she likes construction workers (I know girls like this), or maybe she likes Goth guys who are jacked (think of Mudvayne concerts and moshpits). Sure, you could pull a ONS with them, but if their interests were different, naturally it won't work simply because relationships that last for awhile, like friendships last due to commonality, not difference.

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Think of it life this, guys here have a 'style'. I like girls with larger round arses and perky, but not huge tits. The JLos, the cheerleaders, some dancers, normally they're size 4-8's. But inside those styles, there's the individual girl, because lots of girls fit that type but aren't necessarily for me, or vice versa.

Go to any club and you can see girls like that everywhere, but alot of them, especially one's near me are hoodrats, though they fit that physical description. I've dated dozens of girls like *my style* as any guy should. My buddy's on the other hand, find petite skinny girls hot. Size 4 and below, twig thin, maybe a B cup at best. Why, I don't know, but that's them. So there's never conflict when we go out.

All anything is going to do is give you more opportunities. DJing, or SS, or David D, or whoever is the discoverer of said principles, enables men MORE opportunities and awareness than they would normally have otherwise.

It's a stats game, and the more you play the better you get, the higher your stats.



A-Unit
 

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How about you kiss my ass Amethyst.

"I bet $5 that if i met you in a club you'd have a completley different opinion."

Syncmaster:

I don't go to clubs, clubbing is for losers and sluts. I bet you $1,000 I wouldn't even look twice your way, I'm that picky.
 

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If it was legal I'd seduce you :cool:, Post a pic, I bet we are all curious to see how miss shallow looks.
 

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Shes on myspace.
 
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