Docs - FR: Ex-GF -> Plus! Finer points of Dating, What I've accomplished (Pg 1 of 2)

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:nervous: I haven't seen my ex in a long time, so this was a good chance to see how she was doing and see what level of comfort we were at. It wasn't a date persay to date her, but really a shoot the sh!t date. Because of this, I really let the date go all over the map, but because of that, I had a great time.

Dating is NOT about trying to kiss her at the end, or having to follow certain rules. It turns out breaking half of them works just as well. This is a long one to read, but it contains so much good stuff. I also bolded really good stuff you should take note of.
Dating doesn't also include potential girlfriends, actual girlfriends, it is about grabbing someone and spending some time with them. It does not matter who, the point is fun.

Anyways, this is a very long read, so I won't hold you to the intro. Read on and enjoy.

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Myth Rule #1 - Do Not Date a Ex.

Oh, this will be good you say!? Indeed it is. I haven't hung out with this one for about 10 months, and we went cold talking 6 months ago. We broke up...let me think..a year and a half. Even better, she cheated on me, and she was my first girlfriend, so this is pre-Sosuave times, MAJOR MAJOR AFC. Oh, I remember the days I solemnly crawled into bed thinking of her, the friendship ring I brought her (gold and diamond). I remember the many nights crying over her, and the few and far between days that I thought I was getting somewhere.

Good Rule #2: BACKUP PLANS!
It is not that way now. Since we recently started talking again, I tried to force a date (ie: I'm picking you up at 8:30) and split. It worked, I got that far. I went a step further. I called up my buddy and said that if she flakes, if he wanted to chill. Naturally he agreed, so backup plans were made. So, the time for 8:30 comes around and I hop up. I knock on the door, and she has to do DISHES:D and couldnt' go out. "Alright, see you" was my words, got in the car and drove the block to buddies house.

Alright, so fast forward to last night. Once again we were on the phone chatting it up, she didnb't know if she wanted to hang out, so she'd phone me back. Right on, she came back, she was good. Good, I'll get you at 8:30.

I arrived and she had to do a few things, so what do I do, I chat up her mom.

Good Rule #3 - Chat up the parents (THE MOM), creates about a 4fold worth of value in both the girl and the parents.

I hear about a few of my girl's bloopers, ask about mom's life, talk about a few topics. It was good stuff really. Before we're about to leave, we all chatted up the back to home time and mom was onto me about speeding. Of course, a perfect time to use this 'So you're psychic or something?'. Turns out she can sense guys speeding, and how I have to bring her back in one piece:woo:. She then asked me if I was scared yet as I was going to the car. I turned around, went up to mom and said "Does it look like it?". She moved her hand and I grabbed it and we both kind of shook each other. She let me go after that. Future note, half-flirt and joke with the mom, it will work out very well.

Good Rule #3 (more) - Flirt with every girl. This includes girl--friends and MOM.

So we took off, minor chitchat. What is the first place I bring her?
Good Rule #4 - Don't be normal for date places.

How about a store?

Good Rule #5 - Be stupid, act stupid, tease her.

Ohh, haha, start laughing. That's how I got the car, the excuse of I need to pick up a few things Anyways, I teased her about a few things, to get the famed 'shut up *punch*' during the trip. In the store, welcome to CoKblock centeal. We happened to meet up with a ex-bf. Little bit of chitchat, I let it run, although walking away helped to break the convo. He followed up and she was 'omg stop following us!'. He replied with 'I'm not following, I'm going stright.' I foudn my first item and proceeded into the electronic section. I asked her 'Where are the batteries', 'ooh, out there'. So we went back out and now we were following them. Couldn't find my stupid lithium batteries so I took a AAA and we walked up and rejoined the ex-bf. Short chitchat and we split again. I wandered half the store going 'I forgot what else I had to get.' This ensued another convosation about her dad going shopping and never fulfilling a list, etcetc. Got in the car and headed off to coffee.

Good Rule #6 - TEASE. On top of that, play dumb at the right times. On top of even that, once you start teasing and you find something that works, bring it back up!

Or...she suggested bowling. Ok, that works. Went in and bought a game (damn it was short). Nothing works better then competation. She said how she was awesome at bowling, and I said that guys always gave it to her. Of course, this meant the game counted. Well, I was stupid "how do I play, what do I do, how do I throw the ball, etc". First ball gutted, she took my second ball and knocked 8 down. It only took 4 rounds for me to remember how to play, and I was averaging about 7 a hit, her on the other hand, she kept gutting or hitting the back corner. What does this mean, I win. She said she 'gave it to me', ohh alrighty, :D

So, we went to play some pool. This was probably the stupid part of the date, because between my inability to put my card into the atm and pull it out caused a bit of a 'you idiot, let me see that' from her. She got it, meh. 2 rounds of pool I paid for. she said she kicked her ex-bf's ass 14/4 in pool, and I started the 'guys give it to the girl every time'. Trust me, she SUCKED at pool. It was also very..uninteresting. I tried random things to start flirting again, such as hitting her ass with the cue, or trying unsuccessfully to grab her cue while she shot. I had to shoot her own balls a few times just to give it to her. Second game was no better, but I sharked up the game and I tried to bank the eight ball longways, and the white ball decided to roll to the left, connect again with the eight and sink it left side. Crap...at least I gave it to her, so the good old defense of 'that didn't happen', 'you didn't win', 'I gave it to you', etc was half-successfully in starting it all up again.

Good Rule #7 - If the date slows down, make it start back up.
Good Rule #8 - Let her take control.

She wanted to drive. Crap, ok I was scared. She said she did this a few times...so ok.. I had my hand on the e-brake, and although I wasn't too too scared, I acted like I was petrified. She constantly told me to calm down, how she wouldnt' kill me, etc. It was successful in getting her hand a few times to 'calm me down', etc.

Good Rule #9 - If something happens that she doesn't want to do because of embrassement, DO IT.

She wanted to talk to her manager for work, so we went in there. There was this group of people in the front parking lot that she didn't want to see;) Right on, so she let me drive again after she talked to management. What do I do. I drive to the front lot, turn left to the group of people and turn into a parking spot (disabled oops..) She ducked her head and told me to go, oh alright, if you dont' want to play that game, backed up and took off. (the group was bewildered, I didnt' contact them). Oh was she mad at me, 'I can't believe you just did that, constantly punching me, etcetc.) Oh am I so mean:D.

Good Rule #10 - Open on cashiers, bring them into the story.

Anyways, we finally get to coffee and she's still on me about that stunt, so what better time to open the girl cashier with how she'll forgive me and a few other things. Ordered 2 hot chocolates, found a seat and started talking.

Good Rule #11 - Talk about the stupidest crap possible, talk about something really serious, LISTEN and joke with her. Connection.

If that won't give her nightmares, I started my story of how I almost died. She didn't want to hear it, asid she wouldn't sleep. I keep going naturally though, and her response was pretty good. Other topics of interest. How she tricked her cousin that yellow snow is good, gullable isnt' in the dictionary, shooting stuff out of his nose (beads), including the hospital trip for stuffing it too far in, how guys hit on her at work, how I was going to go though drive though, she said she'd reconizge me or the car, I said Oh no you won't in three different tones and the convo switched to our friend who scares her sometimes, and puts cookies in her mouth and acts really silly.:p

Oh yes, we picked up and went home, her still scared that I was going to re-pull into work and honk the horn, etcetc. :D Got back home and this is where unfairness comes in. We walk in after finding out someone was at her house and it was her grandpa. That's all good for her, me on the other hand, I spent about 10 minutes playing with the cats. She had to do firewood, so she walked in twice with rubber boots. Of course, 'I think you look good with rubber books' and I get that look.:woo:

Good Rule #12 - Never stop teasing, and don't settle for the first thing that happens.

Heh, this is almost over, got 2 hugs. First hug was this crappy one, so I told her 'That was a crappy hug, I haven't seen you for 6 months and that's all I get'. She stood there all stupid and all, as I started mentioning that the screen door comes back if I push it. I get the better of the two hugs and started poking the door again. She finally pushed me away and I left.

Myth Rule #13 - Only a hour/two MAX for a date.
What did I spend...3 hours with her. Oops

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Thanks Shezz.

EVERYONE Else. Stop posting garbage. This is 3 pages down, and it's good stuff. Please take the consideration to read and comment, stop fuelling the garbage threads.

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It's quiet at work so I'll respond

You have some good stuff here. Here are my thoughts. I'm not one of the best guys here, I'm learning like everyone else and am trying to apply it in the field so take what I have to say with a grain of salt. Anywhere here goes.

Myth Rule #1 - Do Not Date a Ex.
I agree with this. Going back to an ex is just too easy. I've done it before and I did it because it was easy. I didn't want the challenge of going after new women so I went back to what was easy or comfortable, even though I didn't really want her. You are doing both you and her a disservice.

2. Backup plans
I agree, always a good idea in a date

3. Good Rule #3 - Chat up the parents (THE MOM), creates about a 4fold worth of value in both the girl and the parents.
I'm past the age where I have to deal with that but I guess it's a good idea.

Good Rule #3 (more) - Flirt with every girl. This includes girl--friends and MOM.
I don't know about the MOM thing and her friends, be careful with that.

Good Rule #4 - Don't be normal for date places.
Agreed

Good Rule #5 - Be stupid, act stupid, tease her.
My roommate has a saying, the stupider, the better. Women eat up comments and antics that in your head seem utterly retarded. I don't know why, they just do.

Good Rule #6 - TEASE.
As long as it's playful it's all good.

Good Rule #7 - If the date slows down, make it start back up.
Depends. Sometimes it slows down becuz the chick just bores the crap out of you. In that case end it. This shouldn't happen if the woman is interesting.

Good Rule #8 - Let her take control.
I don't know about this either. Letting a female drive my car is a no-no, unless I'm faded. Then again, if you're faded on an early date, that's not good either, I digress...
I don't think this is a good idea.

Good Rule #9 - If something happens that she doesn't want to do because of embrassement, DO IT.
Good idea, I'll have to remember to do that.

Good Rule #10 - Open on cashiers, bring them into the story.
I agree, it makes any story funnier and more interesting. I've done this before.

Good Rule #11 - Talk about the stupidest crap possible, talk about something really serious, LISTEN and joke with her. Connection.
No argument here.

Good Rule #12 - Never stop teasing, and don't settle for the first thing that happens.
I agree.

Myth Rule #13 - Only a hour/two MAX for a date.
Where does this come from? DYD? I don't think it makes that much of a difference.
 

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Myth Rule #13 - Only a hour/two MAX for a date.
Where does this come from? DYD? I don't think it makes that much of a difference.

Let me bold the part that will make you go. Oh!!!

Myth Rule #13 - Only a hour/two MAX for a date.
Where does this come from? DYD? I don't think it makes that much of a difference.
:D, thanks ^^,
 
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