Do you think USA economy and power will collapse due to feminism

[sosousage]

Well, I don't even live in USA, but I always wanted to go there since its (or it was) one of top countries. And I, living in 3nd or 2nd tier country always wished I was born there but thats not the case anymore (policemen shooting innocent men for no reason was why I changed my mind)

But theres more to that. I have been reading this article
http://puerarchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TheFuturist_TheMisandryBubble.pdf

And to be honest its pretty scary. I did read only 25%, and the most important (imo) points are:
- most women try convince man for marriage, then 70% of women filles divorce papers, and 20% of men are forced to file divorce papers
- divorced men have to pay about 70% of their income (is this true?) for child support etc
- child support is way bigger than it needs
- 20% of men that have to pay child support commit suicide
- if they fail to pay it they go to jail
- men no longer have the rights to check if the child belongs to him and still have to pay child support (also not sure if I understood well)
- women can claim rape without any proof and if a guy wont prove otherwise he can spend 15 years in jail and getting raped there or killed


its very interesting lecture but are the points I outlined true? they make no sense.

Also what is the point of feminism in USA if its killing its economy? I assume men that have to pay 70% of their income can only get depressed and lose ability to invent any technology/business that would count as evolution. but thats only in case they dont get jailed or killed

 

[Who Dares Win]

A nation is built on economy and family, you will notice all the succesfull nation have a growing economy and strong family units while they expand and collapsing economy and messed up families when they collapse.

Men run the economy and women control the family unit, right now most western countries have crappy economies full of parasytes wheter they are government, unproductive population or immigrants.

At the same time women no longer care about having a family untill they are no longer good or healthy enough to do it and if they happen to accomplish that, plenty of times they screw up.

Our societies either review their model in terms of rights and means both economically and socially or will be wiped out from those in a better shape than us.

Success is not measured from how degenerate someone is free to be in a nation but from how productive in terms of workpower and innovation men are, same for women and family stability.

A good benchmark of a stable society is how local men are willing to fight to defend their country (in terms of laws and society), 90% of europeans hardly would unless the enemy gets pretty close and threat their property and family.

Regarding men in general we are simple, if something its worth we invest in it otherwise we dont, wheter we talk about economy or relationships.

 

[Macaframalama]

Also what is the point of feminism in USA if its killing its economy?

Globalism.

 

[Macaframalama]

I would urge y'all to read the "Planks of Communism" and "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". Both can be found free online and have been around forever. I'm not going to say it's Communism or the Jewish elite, but someone is using it as a playbook to a T. Most of the protocols have already implemented. It covers everything you see going on today. From of the degradation of the school system, breakdown of the family unit, feminism, pornography, the homosexual push as normalcy in television and film, foreign policy, the Fed reserve, you name it. Keep in mind, the planks were brought to light in the 40's or 50's I believe and brought before Congress. The protocols of the elders in the early 1900's I believe, so it's not just some conspiracy theory. The dots are easy to connect with progressives and their movement here in the states. The black lives matter, me too, firearm banning, the transgender bathroom, globalism, global warming, on and on and on. Progressive liberals.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Just a few generations ago, the white man had machine guns while everyone else had spears.

How the fvck we could end up losing is beyond me.

Hitler, feminists, and Jews infiltrating our governments because they look identical to white people.

 

[MatureDJ]

I believe that when the men of a society are not motivated to show industry & protect the weak, they do not act in way that is conducive to the sustainability of the tribe. It used to be that the Beta man was motivated by being given a wife - i.e., through the social schema of monogamy, thereby having society quickly run out of Alpha men, forcing women to marry Betas - therefore motivating him to show such industry and to protect his society. We are already at the point where women do not need men to have a "family" as they can earn a living through work or be a beneficiary of the Welfare State - which is a de facto bachelor tax on those bachelors who pay a high rate of tax but can't take advantage of the low tax rates and high tax credits that are allowed of the family. And a woman can even be very choosy with the man that fertilizes her eggs, as there are always a plentiful supply of high-intelligence, physically aesthetic men around college campuses willing to give some of their seed for a few bucks (BTW, p0rn at fertility clinics is d@mn good!)

While the popular meme of MGTOW is rooted in the inability of men to find a decent female (TFL would be the "confessional" form of MGTOW, in that they have come to terms with that inability), it is also an expression that since womenfolk have made it so hard for Beta men - while making it so easy for Alpha men - to get into a sexual relationship, these men have decided that they are going to just withdraw their positive contributions to society and enjoy their time free from the toil that society has expected of them, something that the plethora of p0rn and sexually oriented services allows them (similarly, the Alphas have been disincentived as well, as they get tang even if they are lazy bums).

The combination of these aspects is that the price elasticity, as it were, of sex has gone down, as the Beta men can try as hard as they want but will fail, while the Alpha men don't have to try at all. Along this line is a great comment on a politically conservative blog about Hugh Hefner's effect on society:

http://thefederalist.com/2017/09/28/hugh-hefners-legacy-is-about-more-than-sex/#disqus_thread

Dan Middleton • 4 months ago

On the other hand, men did greater things when it was harder to see boobs.

Now all this said, since we are transitioning into the robot economy, I think there will be enough Betas as others who want to do the right thing for society (i.e., independent of any sexual payoff) to do what little work needs to be done by men. Or alternatively, the nasty jobs that must be done by humans will pay out at such a high level that the male workers will have enough cash to purchase sex.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I believe that when the men of a society are not motivated to show industry & protect the weak, they do not act in way that is conducive to the sustainability of the tribe. It used to be that the Beta man was motivated by being given a wife - i.e., through the social schema of monogamy, thereby having society quickly run out of Alpha men, forcing women to marry Betas - therefore motivating him to show such industry and to protect his society. We are already at the point where women do not need men to have a "family" as they can earn a living through work or be a beneficiary of the Welfare State - which is a de facto bachelor tax on those bachelors who pay a high rate of tax but can't take advantage of the low tax rates and high tax credits that are allowed of the family. And a woman can even be very choosy with the man that fertilizes her eggs, as there are always a plentiful supply of high-intelligence, physically aesthetic men around college campuses willing to give some of their seed for a few bucks (BTW, p0rn at fertility clinics is d@mn good!)

While the popular meme of MGTOW is rooted in the inability of men to find a decent female (TFL would be the "confessional" form of MGTOW, in that they have come to terms with that inability), it is also an expression that since womenfolk have made it so hard for Beta men - while making it so easy for Alpha men - to get into a sexual relationship, these men have decided that they are going to just withdraw their positive contributions to society and enjoy their time free from the toil that society has expected of them, something that the plethora of p0rn and sexually oriented services allows them (similarly, the Alphas have been disincentived as well, as they get tang even if they are lazy bums).

The combination of these aspects is that the price elasticity, as it were, of sex has gone down, as the Beta men can try as hard as they want but will fail, while the Alpha men don't have to try at all. Along this line is a great comment on a politically conservative blog about Hugh Hefner's effect on society:

http://thefederalist.com/2017/09/28/hugh-hefners-legacy-is-about-more-than-sex/#disqus_thread


Now all this said, since we are transitioning into the robot economy, I think there will be enough Betas as others who want to do the right thing for society (i.e., independent of any sexual payoff) to do what little work needs to be done by men. Or alternatively, the nasty jobs that must be done by humans will pay out at such a high level that the male workers will have enough cash to purchase sex.

When European countries were consolidating their power, they practiced a theory called Social Darwinism.

There was no welfare. And this is the mindset they used to justify genocide. They were just fulfilling evolution. They took over the world because it was survival of the fittest.

 

[Trainwreck]

Another dumb ignorant manosohere topic...yawn! Capitalism itself is unstable and falling apart, but the USA will collapse when Armageddon happens or if the western world has decided as a whole that capitalism is **** and chooses something else like the enlightenment age or something.

 

[Von]

I am more worried about this: http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/entertainment/florence-italy-change-carmen-1.4482413

They in Italy (a known pro-male society) have modified a French classic opera play.

All in the name of "anti-violence"

The scene where the woman is killed is reversed to her killing the guy, and getting away with murder.

Meanwhile in Saudi Arabia: women's just gained the right to vote, to work, to travel, to see shows, mixed crowd in public event are now allow, Western artists (including female singer , acrobats) are now allowed to perform in front of female-male public. Saudi Arabia always gave the right to citizenship to Female Sex robot.

USA or the world has never been in better economic stance... however: social conventions are being broken left and right.. That's sick.

As a financial wealth manager... here's what I see on the field.
At macroeconomic level (country) all is great
At microeconomic level (individual or family): there never been so much "income potential" however... people have never been tighter in saving power...
We going back to the "elite" have money and saving power... everyone under 100 000$ is lower class without saving power.

In Canada, the middle class starts at 110 000$ annual salary.

Heck, even a MD is now lower class

 

[skinnyguy]

Well, I don't even live in USA, but I always wanted to go there since its (or it was) one of top countries. And I, living in 3nd or 2nd tier country always wished I was born there but thats not the case anymore (policemen shooting innocent men for no reason was why I changed my mind)

But theres more to that. I have been reading this article
http://puerarchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TheFuturist_TheMisandryBubble.pdf

And to be honest its pretty scary. I did read only 25%, and the most important (imo) points are:
- most women try convince man for marriage, then 70% of women filles divorce papers, and 20% of men are forced to file divorce papers
- divorced men have to pay about 70% of their income (is this true?) for child support etc
- child support is way bigger than it needs
- 20% of men that have to pay child support commit suicide
- if they fail to pay it they go to jail
- men no longer have the rights to check if the child belongs to him and still have to pay child support (also not sure if I understood well)
- women can claim rape without any proof and if a guy wont prove otherwise he can spend 15 years in jail and getting raped there or killed


its very interesting lecture but are the points I outlined true? they make no sense.

Also what is the point of feminism in USA if its killing its economy? I assume men that have to pay 70% of their income can only get depressed and lose ability to invent any technology/business that would count as evolution. but thats only in case they dont get jailed or killed

Just use feminism to your advantage.

Did you pick up women at the Women’s March today?

 

[Red Legg]

Actually our (USA) economy and power are on the upswing with our President in charge that at least has some balls.....and if anyone messes with us we will just release our army of BPD's on their azz and they won't stand a chance...

 

[RangerMIke]

Without women our economy would be in the ****ter. Really, it's women that spend money... man spend money to impress women.

Feminism may be ruining society as we know it, and it will be replaced with something else, but the economy will be fine. Chicks might think they want socialism, but as soon as they run out of other people's money, socialism ends.