zekko said:
Guys here hate that girls have options, but it's just the way it is. You can say these girls self-estimate is overinflated, but if they can gather that many orbiters, then that probably does reflect their actual dating market value.
I know guys on SoSuave tend to minimize and criticize any girl's looks. But
even if you say these girls are only average (for their age), if they know how to work it a bit and have some "game", there's little doubt they can have guys all over them. If they really have all these orbiters, I'd say their self estimate isn't all that warped.
It's like complaining about a pro athlete's salary. If that's what the market will bear, it doesn't do much good to complain about it. The guy's going to get his money anyway. Similarly, a girl who keeps her figure is going to have her options with the opposite sex. It's just the way it is.
Everyone here wants to blame it all on the AFCs, but the PUA types want to bang the girl just as much as the chode does. So I've always thought that "blame the AFCs" idea was more than a little disingenuous. Most of the time what guys here are really saying is "I wish those AFCs would get out of the way so I could have my shot at her". You're all more alike than you'd care to admit. To paraphrase a popular saying: Don't hate the AFCs, hate the game.
while i understand the point you are trying to make, the example is way off.
the NBA player's salary is determined, because NBA players are the best athletes in the world. There aren't very many 7'0 guys who are extremely coordinated and cat quick with basketball skills. there might be 50-60 in the entire world. Thus, that's why NBA players are the best paid athletes in the world on avg.
These broads on the other hand, they aren't that unique. Even as far as hot girls go they are pretty plan janeish. white girl blue eyes blond hair, decent body, doesn't work out, probably has nothing interesting about her whatsoever. i see 50 to 100 of those every time i go somewhere in LA.
The problem here, is that the guys are putting ***** on the pediastool and because of that, the guys are inflating the price o value of ***** themselves, even when there really isn't a shortage of good hot young ***** out there. The guys who lack game, will cling to any cute girl or attractive girl who pays him the slightest bit of attention, thus making her feel like she is worth more than she really is. It's not that there is a shortage of hot women.
in short, this is a male perception problem, not a unique quality / market driven problem