Do You Think Money Holds More Weight Than Good Game?

[SoulMan13]

I was just having a discussion with my boy earlier, because there's this dude we hang with from college from time to time that comes from a pretty wealthy background. He drives a 2015 Mercedes CLA, has multiple luxury watches, wears expensive clothing etc. However, his game is awful. He is a corny dude and gets super anxious around women, (excessive sweating, stuttering, long silences etc), but he never has a problem pulling these women.

Me and my boy never have the same success as him when we are all out together, even though our game is levels above his. However, when he lets us borrow his car, one of his watches etc, I've noticed that our success rate shoots up massively.

So basically, do y'all agree that money is more important than game when it comes to getting a woman? Or do you think that a guy with great game, but isn't making that much money, could take a woman off of a fairly rich dude?

 

[Billtx49]

Evidence of money, i.e. Watches and expensive cars can attract gold diggers. As a former business man, I can truthfully say you get what you advertise for.
Wealth can easily work against you, if you are looking for a high quality woman.

 

[Skyline]

Money gets you noticed and game keeps them in.

 

[jurry]

Apparently it does.

According to my recent post on this exact topic, where I was excoriated for linking to a CH article that comments on how game/personality is way more important than looks and money. I mean literally get pm'd with hate msg's and insulted for suggesting it!

This seduction website which has been around for decades? teaching men how to improve their skill and confidence with women is now overrun by beta bucks preachers telling us that it doesnt matter how good your game or personality is because women are just judging you by the size of your wallet and the attractiveness of your face.

Truly a sad state of affairs for sosuave, and there are very few commenting on this site that are not angry trolls or beaten-down men that have given up and just taken to circle jerking with each other about how evil women and society have become.

Of course when you fail at approaching women or just give up its a lot easier to blame it on something out of your control than to learn from it and go at it again.

 

[bigneil]

Everything that a woman could possibly notice about you is equally important. She wishes you had more money and she wishes he had more game. Achieve both.

 

[El Payaso]

Money gets you noticed and game keeps them in.

THIS.

Money will attract women, usually the gold digging types but you need game and knowledge to keep and maintain them.

If one is a beta with tons of money, women will use him for a schmuck.

If one is an alpha with tons of money, he will use women for his pleasure and nothing more e.g. this guy: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sh-storms-party-mansion-saying-felt-used.html :yes:

 

[zinc4]

The guy probably looks better to, but ofcourse money helps. Being seen as an established man is ultimately an alpha trait in women's eyes just like being confident is, but its only one trait...you can't deny this. Doesn't mean you can't have both though.

 

[bigneil]

A real man is an individual who can extract enough resources from the world to support a family. Period. Getting caught up in how pretty he looks and/or what mind games he plays is proof of societal degeneration.

 

[skinnyguy]

Flaunting your wealth can attract a lot of trash women.

As I get older I realize I just want a woman who wants me for me. If a woman bangs you because she thinks you're a God, it's different than if she bangs you because she wants the contents of your wallet.

At the end it's just about respect. I'm trying to weed out the ones who have no respect for me, and only include the ones who treat me well.

 

[SoulMan13]

The guy probably looks better to, but ofcourse money helps.

looks?

We are all attractive guys. We all get our fair share of female attention and probably pull around the same amount of women. I've found that it just seems to be easier for him and us to close the deal when we are flaunting wealth. The women put up way less barriers and throw out a lot less, if any, sh*t tests etc.

I've also found that with his social anxiety etc, he finds it a lot harder to pull a woman when he is just out in a white tee and some sneakers and riding the subway. Most of the time he gets hit with the "I've got a boyfriend" excuse or the girls just straight up ignore him. He's the same attractive guy and acts exactly the same, the only thing missing is his nice watch and expensive car. So it just got me thinking if women really see game as that important if a man has money.

 

[backseatjuan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXc_HkWgjuA

^women will fvck with you if you have money.


Game is primarily to get some money, get yourself in shape and not just physical, and what we create with ourselves attracks women. But women are after money and then some, they like accomplished men, or at least men with some potential.

When a woman considers meeting with you, first think she sees are her children from you, what can you provide, how can you raise them, what they will become. That is a quality woman.

Women also are sluts, they want dirty sex. They want their cake and eat it too when it comes to being a slut and having a quality accomplished man. If you can have money, and game, and satisfy her sexually, then you are a great catch.

 

[zekko]

Everything that a woman could possibly notice about you is equally important. She wishes you had more money and she wishes he had more game. Achieve both.

I agree with this. I don't believe in the "game trumps all" business, anymore than "Looks are all that matter" or "You have to have money to get laid". Build a good life for yourself, and be a well rounded guy, be the best that you can be. Women can be attracted in a variety of ways.

We've all heard of the pool boy banging the rich man's wife. That's usually a case of looks + a bored wife though, not just a guy with good game. In fact, Hulk Hogan's wife divorced him for the 18 year old pool boy.

 

[Poonani Maker]

I read books written pre-political correctness timeline. Women authors of fiction during that time (pre-1960s, preferably before EARLY 1950s) write episodes of characters of women interacting with men, and the men of their focus and friendship (and would-be lover if for her not being married) are treated by them with pure support and adoration of what they've DONE (in the story). She will say the most Supportive (and respectful) and acknowledging words TO the man alone. She will express her appreciation for what he's DONE (not for Her, necessarily, but for the "Cause" or the people she knows and cares about). Women today are sooo self-obsessed that I don't know if they hardly ever Express their 'select' words for the man to have him FEEL her support or appreciation. I mean, I TEAR up almost when reading how women Used to treat real men. Men were ALLOWED to BE real men then. They would make a speech to quell the crowds, just DO SOMETHING to/for the "Cause" which stood out. We are not ALLOWED to Stand (for ourselves) up anymore. This WAS an American trait Lost with the WWII Generation, which ALL went into Basic Training and were beaten down like Dogs (WORSE than dogs) and taught to Obey ALL Authority. They never questioned. They never Stood Up for themselves the way their fathers and fathers' fathers did. That was the original American Trait (which was VERY Opinionated). Now everybody is an Objective neutered faggot.

 

[bigneil]

Brilliant observation, Poonani Maker.

 

[nismo-4]

Tangible clout. It does help.

I drove my Grand Am to a club and was barely noticed, maybe invisible. Yet when I was seen pulling up in a drop top Bentley, heads turned and suddenly, me and the guys I was with were suddenly the guys that had to be had.

Careful though, flashing cash can attract gold diggers. Game will help you keep a girl you hook (or bites your hook).

If you got a lot of cash, maximize your looks. You won't need to advertise that much cash then!

 

[VladPatton]

Money has some pretty goddamn heavy weight, without unquestionable doubt. Yes, it attract gold diggers and whóres, but it also attracts swindlers and crooks, business opportunities and a vast array of people you'd never meet if you were making $15,000 a year.

Your job as Mr. Big Balls Moneybags is to filter out the quality from the trash. This you do by constant self improvement and running with quality people that will actually boost your life, not poison it.*

*Also valid if you're making $15,000 a year!:yes:

 

[Bible_Belt]

A real man is an individual who can extract enough resources from the world to support a family.

Maybe in the 1950s.

Women have a lot of sex without a potential relationship in mind. I would always prefer to be one of those guys. I just tell women up front that I am not relationship material. My house is dirty, and I'm usually broke, but things like that only matter for relationship guys. If we're just going to fvck, things like money don't matter.

 

[bigneil]

So Bible Belt is saying a real man can't extract enough resources from the world to support a family?

I didn't say he had to have a family, but once a man hits 40 his looks can't be the #1 thing going for him.

A man peaks in overall power at age 50, so many women consider 45-55 to be the prime years for a man.

I enjoy being generous. I help everyone I meet along my path. I sometimes tip in Silver dollars. To me, love is what a fruiting tree and a bird share together. The tree does not feel used by the bird, even though the bird will fly away should it fall.

 

[prison/con.net]

you've got to have enough time and money to FIND the right gal, guys. Often, she does not live in your city. Sometimes, she doesn't even live in your country until you bring her here. If you cast a very small net, you'll not have much of a choice about what you catch.

 

[SeymourCake]

Yes.

You can approach a prostitute and spit your A game at her, but she won't get intimate with you unless you show her the money.